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Old May 7th, 2008   #1 (permalink)
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i cant understand something

why to buy a costly machine to run ps2 game on it. if u can get a ps2 console with less cost.

i think it is a hardware comercial and no a project.
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You HAVE to have a PS2 console to begin with
and you really SHOULD use PCSX2 when you ALREADY have a powerful enough PC :]
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well, I think you need to work on those thoughts and learn about emulation
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well, legatosama, i think u need to, because this project has 5 years, and the progress is very slow, it is similar with the epsx for ps1, VGS in less time the progress was impressive, this emulator dont need any configuration and run in slow machine in comparative with epsx.

i dont think to spend a lot of money to buy a strong machine right now, only to play few games. in the 2012 maybe play some game in this emulator, with a machine that doesnt have to buy for that, for that date, maybe the PLAYSTATION 4 will be in proyect, and u didnt finished the ps2 emulator.

I think it is a hardware comercial, only for sell hardware computer.
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well, legatosama, i think u need to, because this project has 5 years, and the progress is very slow, it is similar with the epsx for ps1, VGS in less time the progress was impressive, this emulator dont need any configuration and run in slow machine in comparative with epsx.

i dont think to spend a lot of money to buy a strong machine right now, only to play few games. in the 2012 maybe play some game in this emulator, with a machine that doesnt have to buy for that, for that date, maybe the PLAYSTATION 4 will be in proyect, and u didnt finished the ps2 emulator.

I think it is a hardware comercial, only for sell hardware computer.
so you're saying that pcsx2 is a commercial to sell pc hardware?

you're beyond stupid

no specific hardware support is offered to pcsx2 by any component manufacturer,
no one on the dev team works or is paid for their work related to pcsx2

buy a ps2 and quit complaining about a free emulator that has had tons of time invested into it
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First of all Pcsx2 emulation is slow because the developers DO HAVE LIVES. they can't work on this project 24/7, they have families and jobs to take care of.Second of all Pcsx2 is NOT a "hardware commercial", the PCSX2 team works very hard on the emulator and if it were just a "hardware commercial" they wouldn't work this hard on it. Also what if your ps2 broke? you still own your ps2 but it just doesn't work, that's where an emulator is useful (plus it's fun to play around with and see what your computer can do).
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so you're saying that csx2 is a commercial to sell pc hardware?

you're beyond stupid

no specific hardware support is offered to pcsx2 by any component manufacturer, no one on the dev team works or is paid for their work

buy a ps2 and quit complaining about a free emulator that has had tons of time invested into it

no necesary specific hardware, but i dont know how one emulator can requires a strong machine to run game a slow speed, when ps2 console, doesnt have those requieres, maybe it can be comparative with a machine p4 single core, 512 Ram, 64 mb video card, what else??? well i think it is the specification that can be comparative between ps2 and a machine.

VGS or Emurayden can run on a machine Athlon 1.0 Ghz o P3 with normal speed, but epxse not. i think it is knowloge of programation.

sorry for my bad english.
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no necesary specific hardware, but i dont know how one emulator can requires a strong machine to run game a slow speed, when ps2 console, doesnt have those requieres, maybe it can be comparative with a machine p4 single core, 512 Ram, 64 mb video card, what else??? well i think it is the specification that can be comparative between ps2 and a machine.

VGS or Emurayden can run on a machine Athlon 1.0 Ghz o P3 with normal speed, but epxse not. i think it is knowloge of programation.

sorry for my bad english.
pcsx2 uses the resources required and is not deliberately held back to require high end parts,
read a topic called "why is pcsx2 slow?"

pcsx2 is programmed by very knowledgeable people with previous experience in emulation

I think you're a troll tbh, there's no purpose to this thread other than to berate pcsx2
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This post from a previous discussion should help answer part of your question.

For the rest of the specifications, it is due to the major differences in the hardware architecture between the PS2 and an x86 32-bit processor from Intel or AMD. In short, each difference has to be emulated, and there is generally no shortcut for these. Each modification can have drastic results, and the point in emulation is for accuracy and not for speed. Just like many complex products, there are always pieces that can be done much more easily with the actual hardware than by software emulation on a different platform: some methods and tools just do not work properly under certain conditions. (In part, this is due to the computer processor and graphic card manufacturers, and even the manufacturer of the big OS components, Microsoft.)

Keep in mind the increasing complexity of console devices. In the days of the PSX, the internal hardware specifications were low and "simple" enough to be emulated by a mid-range PC today. However, consider the PS2's, the differences are extreme.

Even the slightest differences can cause headaches, but considering these huge exertion, it will take some time and a lot of horsepower to pull it off.

Hopefully, this answers most of your questions.
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anyways, like Fadingz said, you need to own a PS2 before you can even run PCSX2.

and the benefits of using an emulator VS the original console are...
- improved graphics @ higher resolutions
- saved states
- faster load times
- region free gaming
- custom PC controllers
- memory card storage potentially as big as your harddrive
- various other special features
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Another person who talks the talk but has no idea what he's talking about

DeGenerationX...this is a work in progress. Simply put, it's not done. Understand that part? Ok, next.

Don't compare the PS2 architecture to the everyday PC. That's wrong, period. Read up on your subject before you start typing stuff and sounding like an idiot/troll.

This emulator is for people who

1 - Like to play on your computer
2 - Play their games at higher resolutions
3 - Ability to tinker around with their games (savestates for example)

And above all....it's for fun? The devs spend their personal time, PERSONAL time working on this. You think they're getting paid like other software developers?
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Lol. Yeah, he doesn't know the original's specs either, does he? It's 33MHZ. And 1.0GHZ is required, that's quite abit higher(1.5GHZ recommended!)

This'll be closed down soon.

Basically your computer has to emulate an entire system, and on that *Fake* system on your computer, it has to run a game, so it's putting imaginary stress on something that doesn't actually exist, which therefore puts an insane amount of stress on the computer. :P

By your logic, a 33MHZ, 2MB Graphics card, 32MB RAM computer should be able to run PS1 emulators :P
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I think DeGenerationX just trying to provoke peoples...
Or he is just so young or so far from undersatning informatics, so that it is a miracle he could wrote to this forum ..

DeGenerationX:
Pc is an universal platform.. not only for gameing... but if you have a PC you can use it to play games too... some cases it can emulate other platforms with much better quality[like 1600x1200], and with more possibility.. [save/load/or to find secrets..]
Just check a SNES emulator and you will see what a pc can do from old games.
This ps2 emulator will surely live even after the last ps2 will die.. and after that you will be able to play ps2 game, only with an emulator, like this one.

If you want only to play games [and only the new ones], then just use your ps2/ps3... or anything you like.. but if you want [for example] to write a game, these gameplatforms will be useless...
So.. as long as you want new games for your ps543, or xbox4325*720*p/e the gamedevelopers [like me] will need pc's to do that ..
And next time try not argue much unknowingly with others...

A pc always can be more powerful than any game platform... true sometimes they are more expensive... but emulation [usually] need a much more powerful platform...
Like: you surely can speak much better than a lion .. maybe you can even emulate a few "word"s from other animals still you are not good enought to perfectly emulate the lions speaking ... If you don't agree, than i woud watch you as you try to say to a hungry lion: "don't eat me.. i can buy much better food for you..."
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