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May 6th, 2008
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AI
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PCSX2 Game Statistics Index
This is an emulator performance index to track PCSX2 game performance and computer specifications. This is complementary to PCSX2 Game Troubleshooting Guide. Data compilation for FPS Prediction Subsection in progress => 43%. The theory behind this thread is to create a unified statistical analysis of the many data fields gathered from the Screenshots Thread and other sources to aid in the developers' and end-users' analysis of the emulated experience. For a practical example, the Specification to FPS analysis should help reduce the spawning of "Is this PC powerful enough to run game X at decent speeds" threads. The setup and layout are as follows: the first post (this post) will act as the primary indexing page whereas all future STATS posts or screenshots thread links will be linked to in an organized manner. That is, by means of categorizing each game in alphabetical order, and general articles in the respective order of importance. Each link will have by its side a brief detail of the peak FPS for the game, and the link to its corresponding KB article, if any. If the same title exhibits similar performance despite the region, then a single STATS article will be linked for all. If there is more than one STATS entry per game, an advanced STATS page will be made for that game. This STATS page may contains benchmark with specifications and settings to assist with performance expectations. By default, the setup will be such that individual games that have little data will be linked to the Screenshots post directly while those with more data can be analyzed specifically with specific STATS articles. For complimentary purposes, attached is the indexed Screenshots Thread, GameStats.xls with 437 manually made entries with fields of: GAME, REGION, STATUS, EMU_VERSION, OS, FPS_MENU_MIN, FPS_MENU_MAX, FPS_INGAME_MIN, FPS_INGAME_MAX, CPU_BRAND, CPU_MODEL, CPU_CLOCK, RAM, GPU_BRAND, GPU_MODEL PLUGIN_GS, PLUGIN_GS_VERSION, PLUGIN_SOUND PLUGIN_SOUND_VERSION, PLUGIN_CDVD, PLUGIN_CDVD_VERSION, Disable Forced ABS, EE/IOP Sync Hack, and REFERENCE. The data was collected manually from the first 420 posts in the screenshots thread. Posts without FPS were analyzed based on the screenshots: for those with few screenshots, the FPS_INGAME_MAX is the highest value for the ingame screenshots. Those with multiple appropriate screenshots were evaluated with minimum and maximum. Those without any FPS details were dropped. Posts of games with menu problems while having minimal data were dropped. Posts claiming "full speed" were not recorded, as this was a relative opinion. Multiple reposts were accumulated in the analysis. Quote:
Caution: Playable in the file adopts a different meaning than the one in the compatibility list. The meaning implies the game seemed to work fine for the player at the time of testing, which may not be a complete testing, unlike in the compatibility list. Due to the indexing, any posts in-between are welcomed as they will be disregarded when browsing through the actual index. The format is below the index. A sample report is shown below this post. Contribution will be much appreciated by anyone who finds a new means of analysis via a particular approach. Do not ask performance questions or report bugs here. This thread is for the access and creation of STATS articles. Use the appropriate forums instead. (Though suggestions for improvement would be appreciated.) Use the browser search feature (Ctrl+F) to find partial game names. --- INDEX General Performance Game-Specific--- If you wish to contribute, please follow the format below in order to keep the project organized. Have the post title be the name of the STATS approach. PHP Code:
To take responsibility to handle a sub-index: Have the post title be the name of the general category of study or the name of the game. PHP Code:
Last edited by GeominorAI; June 10th, 2008 at 05:50. Reason: Indexed STATS Article: "PCSX2 Overall Specification vs. Performance - CPU and GPU Power Matter" |
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May 6th, 2008
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Insomniac in training...
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Wow, someone has a lot of time
 . All I can say is kudos man. Not sure if it's necessary, but we haven't seen someone so enthusiastic about the project for awhile now  .
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May 6th, 2008
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AI
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To improve the effectiveness of the PCSX2 forum environment and to formulate useful data compilation, using the feedback the PCSX2 supporters have put forth throughout the years, to potentially help the PCSX2 team seemed to be beneficial for all.
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May 6th, 2008
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AI
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It took the entire day to get much of the latter half of the Screenshots Thread into Excel. It might have to wait until tomorrow to get some of the content up. The Game FPS Sub-Index post was put up temporarily in order to slightly fill the void.
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May 6th, 2008
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Not trying to discount the awesomeness of this thread but...
Keep in mind some people are using frame limiting, therefore some peak numbers are not that accurate for the system spec. I am not sure if this is your intention, but unless you have standardized hardware, the numbers are meaningless and cannot be directly compared.
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May 6th, 2008
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The numbers have a very big meaning.. If one user has 50/60fps on his machine it means
that game can be played fullspeed. There are many titles that, due to bugs, do not reach fullspeed on even the highest specs. GeominorAI: This thread prolly means a lot of work for you, i do hope you can keep it up
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May 6th, 2008
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That isn't what I am trying to say. If a user can get 60fps on some game on a say 3.6GHz Core2. What does it mean for someone with a 2.2Ghz X2? Nothing at all except that he'll run much slower than the guy with 3.6. If the numbers are normalized on a standard hardware, a rough performance number could be extrapolated. All you need is a multiplier. For example you normalized on a 2.0 C2D. And you got a 3.0 one. Use a 1.5 multiplier and you can get a rough number of your performance. Add a modifier for x2 architecture and you can extrapolate the rough numbers for X2s. (This is assuming no GPU bottleneck of course)
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May 6th, 2008
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AI
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And yes, the peak-limit issue was noticed about a quarter way into the data entry. It was left that way to see how certain specifications stand out compared to the rest. At the point of actual analysis for the games, the peak will be trimmed at 60. In a semi-related note, the FPS on screenshots were generally floored before being entered into the spreadsheet. I have been working on a 3D-graphing setup on Excel for this thread. It should be up in the next few days.
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May 6th, 2008
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The Pest
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Good luck with it man. You do alot of nice things like this, which are very helpful to users who know how to search.
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May 6th, 2008
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AI
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Thanks.
Optimistically, I will try to keep up with the ideas for new articles so that this thread can be kept at the surface of the thread pool. That way, even those who know not how to search can be helped as well.
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