Problems with Okami...

[GoldAnthroWolf]

I'm new here, so be gentle.

I threw my copy of Okami in, ISO'd it down, then when I went to load PCSX2 it acts all 'odd' for some reason. I turned on Multi-threading, MultiCPU no FSAA etc, the one patch for Okami for Fast, and the patch, and it jumps all around.

I have a Asus L1n64-SLI WS mobo, with 2x 2.8ghz DC Opterons, and 4x PC6400 (800mhz) 512mb ram, for a total of 2gigs. a ASUS Radeon 1950pro 256 meg video card.

So yeah, anything else anyone would need as far as hardware wise goes?

I've also tried it on several of the different GFX option and audio options, nothing seems to make much difference. The reason I'm trying this is to see if Okami looks better with a higher GFX resolution, as with what you can get on a PC, etc.

[Mkilbride2588]

Yeah, use GSdx, not ZeroGS. GSdx more accurately emulates most games.(ZeroGS is faster, but mostly due to it off-loading alot onto the GFX care, and it not emulating as much as GSdx)

So you have TWO Processors? Physical? Cause if you mean just one Physical processor, then it's just 2.8GHZ plainly. Opt's are abit weak, as far as I remember. Weak GFX card, too.

Also try interlacing. Use the guide in my signature to get it setup correctly.

[GoldAnthroWolf]

Yes, two physical processors. 2.8ghz DC Opeterons. Weak.. :P If it wasn't for the weak GPU, I know, I can run Crysis at HIGH with no problems.

But yeah, I'll try your suggestion, see if that helps.

Thanks.

[Mkilbride2588]

...This isn't Crysis, this is a PS2 Emulator. Running Crysis @ High is nothing impressive.

Yeah, I don't know if PCSX2 supports the use of two physical processors, but yeah, they are a weak DC line. Also, the game may not be properly emulated yet, alot of games are like that.

PS2 emulation is intensive, so don't compare it to a PC game.

[GoldAnthroWolf]

Well it's been a VERY long time since I bothered with any of this, so yeah. I'm also reading your guide, it says that it's very CPU intensive. I figure, with the multi-threading turned on, thats 11.2ghz of CPU power total. If, it actually will run them all.

I kinda got dead-ended into this machine. A friend offered the CPUs when they were $800 a pop, as they are used, for only $300 from a server farm he worked at. He bought them for me, then I bought them off him. So, figured 6 months ago this was a hell of a bargain. Then go figure, 4 months ago or so, those awesome Intel Q660 Or whatever they are Quad Core's came out. I've built 1 machine with them already, and realize I don't feel like dumping ANOTHER $1500 to build up an uber machine.

And yeah, when I get the cash, I plan on getting an 8800 GT now that the price is so darn redicuously cheap. The only reason I had to go with the 1950 was because I was out of cash, and it was the only decent card I could afford at the time. Stupid price wars with computer components.

[Mkilbride2588]

Uh, where do you get 11.2ghz? Even if you count both, it's still only 5.6GHZ..you don't multiply the 5.6GHZ by 2.

That'd be 5.6GHZ spread across...4 cores?(I don't know how multi-processor systems work, only multi-cored)

Considering that...yeah, your graphics card is surely what is holding you back(if PCSX2 can take advantage of Multi-processors, that is)

Obviously though, your system is quite beefy except the GFX card, fix that and expect great results in almost anything(Aside from games that aren't properly emulated)

[GoldAnthroWolf]

No, lol, for the 2nd time, I have 2 physical Duel Core 2.8ghz cpus. 4x 2.8ghz cores :P

And yeah, I followed your guide, its still slopping along at a like 10fps or so, might also be the sound trying to keep up too, not sure. I'm only using the onboard sound, cause my crappy Sound Blaster Audio SE (only one I had), becasue its the only PCI sound card I have, just can't cut it anymore. This board has 4x PCIe slots, 2x 16 and 2x 8. I should have waited to build a new machine, but had money in my pocket and had to burn it.

[Mkilbride2588]

No, Dual Core does not mean 2.8GHZ per core...you have TWO Dual Core processors @ 2.8GHZ each, 5.6GHZ combined, it is NOT 2.8GHZ per core, I can see how you'd make the mistake, I wish it was that way too, that way I'd have an amazing GHZ, but my 3.4GHZ is just that. 3.4GHZ...it's not 13.6GHZ.

10FPS? You must not have followed the guide correctly. I have Onboard sound and it has no issue with it. I havn't played Okami though...it may be the game isn't properly emulated.

[GoldAnthroWolf]

Yeah I fiddled with it a bit, and yeah, still no luck. I think it might not be emulated correctly.

Oh well. This was just a massive experiment. Thanks for the help. Going to try a few more games, see how they look. I have Xenosaga 1, Robototech Battle Cry, FFX, see how they pan out.

[Mkilbride2588]

Good luck, XenoSaga is a intensive CPU and GPU wise. FFX...you should be able to manage. Not sure about the other game.

[echosierra]

Originally Posted by Mkilbride2588

No, Dual Core does not mean 2.8GHZ per core...you have TWO Dual Core processors @ 2.8GHZ each, 5.6GHZ combined, it is NOT 2.8GHZ per core, I can see how you'd make the mistake, I wish it was that way too, that way I'd have an amazing GHZ, but my 3.4GHZ is just that. 3.4GHZ...it's not 13.6GHZ.

I think you're confusing yourself. Dual core processors usually (but not always) run the cores at the same clock rate. So a processor that is marketed as a 2.8Ghz dual core processor is running each core at 2.8Ghz.

Both cores run at 2.8Ghz, but that doesn't mean you can just add them and say the processor is a 5.6Ghz processor. Even if you have two independant dual core processors (4 separate cores over 2 processors), you can't add the clock frequencies. As with all things involving computer hardware, it isn't nearly that simple.

[Fadingz]

Lets say that there are two cars, both going @ 50 km/h, you can't say they are going 100miles/hr together XD

the only difference is that they can carry two times as much of loads, but everything will still be processed at the same rate.

4x quad core Xeon @ 3.2 Ghz are not 3.2 * 4 and are not 3.2Ghz * 4 * 4...they are still what they are

[Silus]

I find some of the statements made here misleading.

Please read Multi-core (computing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).

I'm think you [the threadstarter] has done this already, but try to enable
MTGS and DC mode. You can find it under Config->CPU.

As far as I know PCSX2 will only take advantage of two processors at once, although you can move all the other processes to the other cores since you have 4.

Thanks

[Fadingz]

Originally Posted by Silus

I find some of the statements made here misleading.

Please read Multi-core (computing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).

I'm think you [the threadstarter] has done this already, but try to enable
MTGS and DC mode. You can find it under Config->CPU.

As far as I know PCSX2 will only take advantage of two processors at once, although you can move all the other processes to the other cores since you have 4.

Thanks

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[Phil]

Um is PCSX2 coded for 4 execution cores? i dont think so.
So this argumet is moot. For better anwers, take your query to the hardware section

[Silus]

Oh?

If the article is incorrect, please help Wikipedia by correcting it with YOUR sources.

[Phil]

Please stay on topic people. If you want to argue, do it somewhere else.

[monkieinabarrel]

try this



however it is possible that you may not be getting that great performance because the thread allocation isn't as effective on two physical processors? also note that you probable will not use dx10/pixel shader 3 if your card doesn't support it. For the 3 games I tried gsdx got an avg of 20-30fps higher than zerogs.

I'm using a q6600 and an 8800gt slightly overclocked with 4gb of ram in vista 64, ymmv i get 60fps stable with occasional textures rendered poorly (probably due to the nature of the emulator).

two DC (dual cores) = four cores 2.8 x 4 = 11.2ghz of course you won't get that kind of performance. for me all four cores sustain around 10-90% load with a total 40%.