The unofficial pcsx2 beta discussion thread - Page 24

runawayprisoner · March 24th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by cottonvibes

guys if you want to enable the 4x hack you should do it yourself.
i just looked at the code, and its pretty easy.
you just have to change 2 lines of code.

i'm testing the 4x hack with Persona 3, i'll let you guys know how stable it is, and what speed increases I get.

Edit:
ok i did a couple tests with the modded build. (i'm not going to say how to mod it, so i don't get in trouble with the devs...)

so far i've noticed in video playback the sound is very-very choppy and cracks alot with the 4x hack (using zeroSPU2).
but in-game, the sound is normal.

in one crowded area, my game went from ~39FPS to ~59FPS.
but in a boss battle, the FPS stayed the same @ 45fps; the hack didn't make a difference.

pretty interesting results. so far the only problems i've noticed have been with FMV playback. (and thats always had some problems...)
i'm sure though, in some other games it might totally make them non-playable.

i think i'll do some more testing

You're just pouring oil in an already big fire...

**bositman** · March 24th, 2008

Yes this isn't a hack pcsx2 and post your results thread,so keep it out from here.That goes to everyone btw

cottonvibes · March 24th, 2008

sorry guys, i was just trying to provide some feedback and extra testing.
i'll just say 1 more thing and shut up.
FFXII was very unstable with the 4x hack; i now see why the devs arn't releasing the 4x hack.

coen · March 24th, 2008

So,where can I download 0.95 svn 307?

hockland · March 24th, 2008

Why would you want 307 when you can get 330? or better yet 333 if you compile it.

Its majorly inferior to the 327-333 releases.

Just of quick note: the memcard bug is still in the emulator. If you attempt to click on "memcards" the emulator closes without a single error message. Been like that since 307.

In either case, now that DMC1 works I`m happy

. If Gran Turismo 4 ran at good speeds on my comp I`d be even happier, but meh beggers cant be choosers.

cottonvibes · March 24th, 2008

my memory card manager works perfectly fine.
maybe you have a currupt memorycard or something.

hockland · March 24th, 2008

Well my saved games loadup fine and everything. If it was corrupt they wouldn`t load.

Mkilbride2588 · March 24th, 2008

Oi guys, great news about "Shadow Hearts", I've got it to run at full speed!

Using DX10 mode in 1.8, SSSE3 version, and the latest build(330, I tried 333, it didn't affect it at all) @ 1440 x 900 resolution, texture filtering and whatnot, it runs full speed for most of the time, although it appears FMV's can still be choppy at times, and certain scenes can drop FPS more...and at first I thought it was cause two people entered the screen, but then on the next screen where there was 3, and more in the backround / going on, and my FPS was perfect, it just seems some area's aren't emulated yet.

This is with Vista Ultimate /w SP1.

Most I could get was 50FPS in XP, but I think it's merely because the DX10 plugin may be coded better. The only issue you have to deal with is the black lines across the screen, no interlacing mode removes them and Texture Filtering on or off does nothing.

Well at least with this, it seems it has finally reached it's "Playable" status, that it was given. :P

This is related to beta's, so that's why I posted it here. Most of my games are in fact faster in DX10, except for some which appear to have no difference. None run slower then, but if I turn Aero on, my FPS halves, even if RAM consumption only goes up 200MB.

Well, not entirely true, but it appears if I do it in Windowed, full speed + effects of DX10, but if I go Full Screen = FPS halved, must be some Aero Vista feature, but if I turn on Windows basic(Which doesn't look bad at all!)It runs at full screen with no slowdown at all.

Phil · March 24th, 2008

window mode shouldnt halve speed...

Mkilbride2588 · March 24th, 2008

I know, but it appears to be an issue with Windows itself, not the emulator. I'm just telling this to anyone using DX10 mode that Aero + Full Screen = halved.

Phil · March 24th, 2008

well why do you have Aero running? it's a resource hog. When benching pcsx2, click the box for windows to run in 95-98-2000 mode.

Mkilbride2588 · March 24th, 2008

Because I was testing something, I know it's a hog, but I had to find out certain information see to see if it really impacted speed.

Phil · March 24th, 2008

well it will definetly impact speed

hockland · March 24th, 2008

cottonvibes: It turns out you were dead on the money. Had 2 corrupted files on my first memorycard. No idea at all how that happened. The proper memcard viewer showed the 2 corrupted files, which sadly were both undeleteable so I had to start from scratch on a new memorycard.

Soon as I did that the "memcard" button worked. So all fixed now.

Phil · March 24th, 2008

saves are ussually the easiest thing to get screwed up on any emulater

runawayprisoner · March 24th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil

well it will definetly impact speed

On my rig, turning on Aero speeds PCSX2 up by 10fps all the time... sincerely...

Phil · March 24th, 2008

well you have a quad core....kupo

runawayprisoner · March 24th, 2008

It happened on the E8400, too.

I'll try if the E2140 has the same thing tomorrow.

**RPGW1ZaRD** · March 24th, 2008

That's more of a graphics card issue, and it's not the first time I see a person say PCSX2 runs faster with Aero enabled either.

hockland · March 24th, 2008

Whats Aero btw?

I`ve never used Vista in my life before, so never used it.

March 24th, 2008	#462 (permalink)
bositman Angel of Death Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 3,351	Yes this isn't a hack pcsx2 and post your results thread,so keep it out from here.That goes to everyone btw __________________

March 24th, 2008	#464 (permalink)
coen Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: quezon city Posts: 11	So,where can I download 0.95 svn 307? __________________

March 24th, 2008	#465 (permalink)
hockland Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 527	Why would you want 307 when you can get 330? or better yet 333 if you compile it. Its majorly inferior to the 327-333 releases. Just of quick note: the memcard bug is still in the emulator. If you attempt to click on "memcards" the emulator closes without a single error message. Been like that since 307. In either case, now that DMC1 works I`m happy . If Gran Turismo 4 ran at good speeds on my comp I`d be even happier, but meh beggers cant be choosers. __________________ Old habits die hard - System Shock PC Specs: 2.4 ghz Quad Core, 3gb ram, nvidia 8800GTS 640mb gfx card.

March 24th, 2008	#467 (permalink)
hockland Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 527	Well my saved games loadup fine and everything. If it was corrupt they wouldn`t load. __________________ Old habits die hard - System Shock PC Specs: 2.4 ghz Quad Core, 3gb ram, nvidia 8800GTS 640mb gfx card.

March 24th, 2008	#468 (permalink)
Mkilbride2588 The Pest Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 1,683	Oi guys, great news about "Shadow Hearts", I've got it to run at full speed! Using DX10 mode in 1.8, SSSE3 version, and the latest build(330, I tried 333, it didn't affect it at all) @ 1440 x 900 resolution, texture filtering and whatnot, it runs full speed for most of the time, although it appears FMV's can still be choppy at times, and certain scenes can drop FPS more...and at first I thought it was cause two people entered the screen, but then on the next screen where there was 3, and more in the backround / going on, and my FPS was perfect, it just seems some area's aren't emulated yet. This is with Vista Ultimate /w SP1. Most I could get was 50FPS in XP, but I think it's merely because the DX10 plugin may be coded better. The only issue you have to deal with is the black lines across the screen, no interlacing mode removes them and Texture Filtering on or off does nothing. Well at least with this, it seems it has finally reached it's "Playable" status, that it was given. :P This is related to beta's, so that's why I posted it here. Most of my games are in fact faster in DX10, except for some which appear to have no difference. None run slower then, but if I turn Aero on, my FPS halves, even if RAM consumption only goes up 200MB. Well, not entirely true, but it appears if I do it in Windowed, full speed + effects of DX10, but if I go Full Screen = FPS halved, must be some Aero Vista feature, but if I turn on Windows basic(Which doesn't look bad at all!)It runs at full screen with no slowdown at all. __________________ PC configuration Q6600 @ 3.4GHZ Stable,GeForce 8800 GT 512 MB GDDR3(Super-clocked) ,4GB PC8000(1000MHZ) RAM @ 950MHZ(5-5-5-15)(Waiting to tweak them eventually),Windows XP SP2 Professional(Vista 64 bit, Dual Boot),750GB 7200 RPM, 32 MB Cache Hard-drive(SATAII),24'' LCD( I know, sorry CRT'ers) HD 1080pi, DVI connected, 1920 x 1200 @ 60HZ),P35-DS3L Revision 2.0 @ 1.49V http://tinyurl.com/2zzzsr Use the Guide above to get PCSX2 to run properly. Has all you need to know to run PCSX2. Having trouble with a game? Check here: http://tinyurl.com/2cuzhx

March 24th, 2008	#469 (permalink)
Phil Mod Master Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United States of Money Posts: 3,512	window mode shouldnt halve speed... __________________ Antec P182 Special Edition (Chrome Finish) : Intel e8400 : Thermaltake ToughPower 650 watt PSU : 4 GB Corsair Dominater DHX 1066 DDR2 Ram : Asus P5Q-E : 500 Gb Seagate : 74 GB Raptor : Samsung 20x DVD optical Drive : Samsung Syncmaster T220 22" LCD : Windows 95 : XFX 8800gt Cooling: Swiftech Apogee GTX Special Edition (Copper Finish) : Feser X-Changer Dual 120mm Radiator : XSPC Bay Resevoir : Danger den Chrome Barbs : Masterkleer 7/16 5/8 tubing : Danger Den D5 : D-Tek Fuzion VGA Block

March 24th, 2008	#470 (permalink)
Mkilbride2588 The Pest Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 1,683	I know, but it appears to be an issue with Windows itself, not the emulator. I'm just telling this to anyone using DX10 mode that Aero + Full Screen = halved. __________________ PC configuration Q6600 @ 3.4GHZ Stable,GeForce 8800 GT 512 MB GDDR3(Super-clocked) ,4GB PC8000(1000MHZ) RAM @ 950MHZ(5-5-5-15)(Waiting to tweak them eventually),Windows XP SP2 Professional(Vista 64 bit, Dual Boot),750GB 7200 RPM, 32 MB Cache Hard-drive(SATAII),24'' LCD( I know, sorry CRT'ers) HD 1080pi, DVI connected, 1920 x 1200 @ 60HZ),P35-DS3L Revision 2.0 @ 1.49V http://tinyurl.com/2zzzsr Use the Guide above to get PCSX2 to run properly. Has all you need to know to run PCSX2. Having trouble with a game? Check here: http://tinyurl.com/2cuzhx

March 24th, 2008	#471 (permalink)
Phil Mod Master Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United States of Money Posts: 3,512	well why do you have Aero running? it's a resource hog. When benching pcsx2, click the box for windows to run in 95-98-2000 mode. __________________ Antec P182 Special Edition (Chrome Finish) : Intel e8400 : Thermaltake ToughPower 650 watt PSU : 4 GB Corsair Dominater DHX 1066 DDR2 Ram : Asus P5Q-E : 500 Gb Seagate : 74 GB Raptor : Samsung 20x DVD optical Drive : Samsung Syncmaster T220 22" LCD : Windows 95 : XFX 8800gt Cooling: Swiftech Apogee GTX Special Edition (Copper Finish) : Feser X-Changer Dual 120mm Radiator : XSPC Bay Resevoir : Danger den Chrome Barbs : Masterkleer 7/16 5/8 tubing : Danger Den D5 : D-Tek Fuzion VGA Block

March 24th, 2008	#472 (permalink)
Mkilbride2588 The Pest Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 1,683	Because I was testing something, I know it's a hog, but I had to find out certain information see to see if it really impacted speed. __________________ PC configuration Q6600 @ 3.4GHZ Stable,GeForce 8800 GT 512 MB GDDR3(Super-clocked) ,4GB PC8000(1000MHZ) RAM @ 950MHZ(5-5-5-15)(Waiting to tweak them eventually),Windows XP SP2 Professional(Vista 64 bit, Dual Boot),750GB 7200 RPM, 32 MB Cache Hard-drive(SATAII),24'' LCD( I know, sorry CRT'ers) HD 1080pi, DVI connected, 1920 x 1200 @ 60HZ),P35-DS3L Revision 2.0 @ 1.49V http://tinyurl.com/2zzzsr Use the Guide above to get PCSX2 to run properly. Has all you need to know to run PCSX2. Having trouble with a game? Check here: http://tinyurl.com/2cuzhx

March 24th, 2008	#473 (permalink)
Phil Mod Master Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United States of Money Posts: 3,512	well it will definetly impact speed __________________ Antec P182 Special Edition (Chrome Finish) : Intel e8400 : Thermaltake ToughPower 650 watt PSU : 4 GB Corsair Dominater DHX 1066 DDR2 Ram : Asus P5Q-E : 500 Gb Seagate : 74 GB Raptor : Samsung 20x DVD optical Drive : Samsung Syncmaster T220 22" LCD : Windows 95 : XFX 8800gt Cooling: Swiftech Apogee GTX Special Edition (Copper Finish) : Feser X-Changer Dual 120mm Radiator : XSPC Bay Resevoir : Danger den Chrome Barbs : Masterkleer 7/16 5/8 tubing : Danger Den D5 : D-Tek Fuzion VGA Block

March 24th, 2008	#474 (permalink)
hockland Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 527	cottonvibes: It turns out you were dead on the money. Had 2 corrupted files on my first memorycard. No idea at all how that happened. The proper memcard viewer showed the 2 corrupted files, which sadly were both undeleteable so I had to start from scratch on a new memorycard. Soon as I did that the "memcard" button worked. So all fixed now. __________________ Old habits die hard - System Shock PC Specs: 2.4 ghz Quad Core, 3gb ram, nvidia 8800GTS 640mb gfx card.

March 24th, 2008	#475 (permalink)
Phil Mod Master Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United States of Money Posts: 3,512	saves are ussually the easiest thing to get screwed up on any emulater __________________ Antec P182 Special Edition (Chrome Finish) : Intel e8400 : Thermaltake ToughPower 650 watt PSU : 4 GB Corsair Dominater DHX 1066 DDR2 Ram : Asus P5Q-E : 500 Gb Seagate : 74 GB Raptor : Samsung 20x DVD optical Drive : Samsung Syncmaster T220 22" LCD : Windows 95 : XFX 8800gt Cooling: Swiftech Apogee GTX Special Edition (Copper Finish) : Feser X-Changer Dual 120mm Radiator : XSPC Bay Resevoir : Danger den Chrome Barbs : Masterkleer 7/16 5/8 tubing : Danger Den D5 : D-Tek Fuzion VGA Block

March 24th, 2008	#477 (permalink)
Phil Mod Master Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United States of Money Posts: 3,512	well you have a quad core....kupo __________________ Antec P182 Special Edition (Chrome Finish) : Intel e8400 : Thermaltake ToughPower 650 watt PSU : 4 GB Corsair Dominater DHX 1066 DDR2 Ram : Asus P5Q-E : 500 Gb Seagate : 74 GB Raptor : Samsung 20x DVD optical Drive : Samsung Syncmaster T220 22" LCD : Windows 95 : XFX 8800gt Cooling: Swiftech Apogee GTX Special Edition (Copper Finish) : Feser X-Changer Dual 120mm Radiator : XSPC Bay Resevoir : Danger den Chrome Barbs : Masterkleer 7/16 5/8 tubing : Danger Den D5 : D-Tek Fuzion VGA Block

March 24th, 2008	#479 (permalink)
RPGW1ZaRD PCSX2 & O/C Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: My Computer Posts: 2,802	That's more of a graphics card issue, and it's not the first time I see a person say PCSX2 runs faster with Aero enabled either. __________________ « Intel® Core™2 Duo E8400 @ 4.0GHz «-» CellShock 2x1GB @ DDR2-1000 4-4-4-8 «-» 8800GT 512MB @ 715/1750/1030 MHz » « Abit IP35 Pro «-» Thermaltake ToughPower 750W «-» Sony Multiscan G400 19" CRT «-» OCZ Vendetta 2 «-» Creative SoundBlaster Audigy » « Logitech X-530 5.1 «-» Logitech MX-518 «-» Windows XP Pro SP3 «-» Windows Server 2k8 x64 XSOS 3.0 BETA »

March 24th, 2008	#480 (permalink)
hockland Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 527	Whats Aero btw? I`ve never used Vista in my life before, so never used it. __________________ Old habits die hard - System Shock PC Specs: 2.4 ghz Quad Core, 3gb ram, nvidia 8800GTS 640mb gfx card.

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