Running PCSX2 Guide for Noobs - Page 7

GeominorAI · March 25th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by **EMUfan**

Can you still use pcsx2 if you dont have a pixel shader?

If your graphics card has no pixel shader, either it does not exist, or it is extremely old. Therefore, a newer card is needed to run the emulator properly.

Mkilbride2588 · March 25th, 2008

No, you cannot.

cottonvibes · March 25th, 2008

EMUfan, most likely your card has pixel shaders unless your PC is like 10+ years old or something..

anyways, if you don't see pixel shader's in GSdx's drop down menu, its not that you don't have them. its that you don't have pixel shaders 2.0 or higher.
you might have ps 1.4 which isn't supported anymore...

and if thats the case, like said above, you can't run the emulator....
(unless you look for an old version of GSdx9 that supports ps1.4)

diablo2121 · March 25th, 2008

Well I'm using Gsdx 0.1.7 DX10 and the pixel shader box is greyed out, and I know my card (8800 GTS) supports PS 2.0+.

Maybe that's what he means.

olis · March 25th, 2008

No way dude. even with my low specs in my reg still detect pixel shader 3.0, I guess the driver of his VGA card isn't configured correctly which result Plugin recognize it as an older card, thus he cannot switch PS2.0 , PS3.0 or PS4.0

Phil · March 25th, 2008

yeah i was thinking that too...most cards these days support pixel shader 3.0 and above

cottonvibes · March 25th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by diablo2121

Well I'm using Gsdx 0.1.7 DX10 and the pixel shader box is greyed out, and I know my card (8800 GTS) supports PS 2.0+.

Maybe that's what he means.

can you post a pic?

GSdx detect's my 8800 GTS's Pixel shades 2.0 and 3.0.

like said above, maybe you also don't have the latest drivers.

but afaik, if your card dosn't support PS 2.0 or PS 3.0, it won't "grey out" the box, it would just show a blank box with nothing to select from.
perhaps you're thinking of texture filtering checkbox, which can turn grey?

GeominorAI · March 25th, 2008

He cannot post because he was banned recently.

cottonvibes · March 25th, 2008

nah i was talking to diablo, cuz he says his PS box is greyed out as well.

but lol, emufan is banned b4 we finish helping him out

GeominorAI · March 25th, 2008

Ah, took that as a translation.
And yes, that quite fits the description of "oh well."

Mkilbride2588 · March 25th, 2008

When you select DX10 mode, it greys your Pixel select box out cause DX10 = 4.0 shaders only(soon to be 4.1, though, I guess) so you cannot change them, it's normal.

cottonvibes · March 25th, 2008

oh i didn't know that.
that makes sense

Zedleouf · March 26th, 2008

As for now, I have only one thing so say to you CottonVibes :
Thanks for this thread !
As I said in the "General thanks" thread, you made my first CPSX2 try a victorious one

For the moment my game works fine, but not better that on my PS2. But I really eager to play all my FF games only on my computer (FF7/8/9 done with outstanding perfomances, nearly done with FFX, woowoo !)

Phil · March 26th, 2008

you could get even better speeds if you overclock your cpu to 3ghz..like the guide says

Zedleouf · March 26th, 2008

Even if I'm always tweaking my computer, I never tried OC

I don't know, it's kinda scary

Phil · March 26th, 2008

well you actually have a very overclockable chip. make a thread in the hardware section to get help on how to overclock it.

Zedleouf · March 26th, 2008

I'll do my best with software improvment first, as I only tried the emulator for a few minutes and on 2 games; but if it's still not enouth, i'll follow your advice and start finding infos regarding OC my proc.

Thanks

Jundas · March 26th, 2008

Didn't read the middle of this thread, but after using this guide I noticed you can get rid of the tiny jaggies by setting the internal resolution higher then your screen resolution. I tried to go crazy with it but that seemed to cause some instability (would love to try it in DX10 since someone told me that was a bit more stable but no Vista).

Mkilbride2588 · March 26th, 2008

Higher resolutions require a more powerful Graphics card, I can go to 1920 x 1200 in some games, but only 1600 x 1200 in other games before noticing a slow down. It causes instability only in games that can't render at higher resolutions correctly, it might not be fixable.

k1ll1ngb0y · March 26th, 2008

Thank you for this very detailed tutorial.
I have a question: are there any legal little games for testing the software?
im sorry if this question was posted already.
and also sry for my english if its bad. =]

sincerely yours

March 25th, 2008	#122 (permalink)
Mkilbride2588 The Pest Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 1,682	No, you cannot. __________________ PC configuration Q6600 @ 3.4GHZ Stable,GeForce 8800 GT 512 MB GDDR3(Super-clocked) ,4GB PC8000(1000MHZ) RAM @ 950MHZ(5-5-5-15)(Waiting to tweak them eventually),Windows XP SP2 Professional(Vista 64 bit, Dual Boot),750GB 7200 RPM, 32 MB Cache Hard-drive(SATAII),24'' LCD( I know, sorry CRT'ers) HD 1080pi, DVI connected, 1920 x 1200 @ 60HZ),P35-DS3L Revision 2.0 @ 1.49V http://tinyurl.com/2zzzsr Use the Guide above to get PCSX2 to run properly. Has all you need to know to run PCSX2. Having trouble with a game? Check here: http://tinyurl.com/2cuzhx

March 25th, 2008	#125 (permalink)
olis Laruffii Inside Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 101	No way dude. even with my low specs in my reg still detect pixel shader 3.0, I guess the driver of his VGA card isn't configured correctly which result Plugin recognize it as an older card, thus he cannot switch PS2.0 , PS3.0 or PS4.0 __________________ _____________________________________ Turion64 X2 1,9 GHz:::120 GB HDD SATA II:::nVidia GeForce 7000m:::2GB DDR-II RAM:::16 X Supermulti DVDRW+::: Acer Aspire 4520

March 25th, 2008	#126 (permalink)
Phil Mod Master Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United States of Money Posts: 3,605	yeah i was thinking that too...most cards these days support pixel shader 3.0 and above __________________ Antec P182 Special Edition (Chrome Finish) : Intel e8400 (C0 Stepping @ 4.2Ghz : Thermaltake ToughPower 650 watt PSU : 4 GB Corsair Dominater DHX 1066 DDR2 Ram : Asus P5Q-E : 500 Gb Seagate : 74 GB Raptor : Samsung 20x DVD optical Drive : Samsung Syncmaster T220 22" LCD : Windows 95 : XFX 8800gt Cooling: Swiftech Apogee GTX Special Edition (Copper Finish) : Feser X-Changer Dual 120mm Radiator : XSPC Bay Resevoir : Danger den Chrome Barbs : Masterkleer 7/16 5/8 tubing : Danger Den D5 : D-Tek Fuzion VGA Block

March 25th, 2008	#128 (permalink)
GeominorAI AI Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: System Server Posts: 332	He cannot post because he was banned recently. __________________ Ensure complete compliance to the NGEmu/EmuForums Rules of Conduct before posting in the forums. Contribute to and review game troubleshooting Knowledge Base articles at the PCSX2 Game Troubleshooting Guide and PCSX2 Game Statistics Index.

March 25th, 2008	#130 (permalink)
GeominorAI AI Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: System Server Posts: 332	Ah, took that as a translation. And yes, that quite fits the description of "oh well." __________________ Ensure complete compliance to the NGEmu/EmuForums Rules of Conduct before posting in the forums. Contribute to and review game troubleshooting Knowledge Base articles at the PCSX2 Game Troubleshooting Guide and PCSX2 Game Statistics Index.

March 25th, 2008	#124 (permalink)
diablo2121 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 110	Well I'm using Gsdx 0.1.7 DX10 and the pixel shader box is greyed out, and I know my card (8800 GTS) supports PS 2.0+. Maybe that's what he means.

March 25th, 2008	#131 (permalink)
Mkilbride2588 The Pest Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 1,682	When you select DX10 mode, it greys your Pixel select box out cause DX10 = 4.0 shaders only(soon to be 4.1, though, I guess) so you cannot change them, it's normal. __________________ PC configuration Q6600 @ 3.4GHZ Stable,GeForce 8800 GT 512 MB GDDR3(Super-clocked) ,4GB PC8000(1000MHZ) RAM @ 950MHZ(5-5-5-15)(Waiting to tweak them eventually),Windows XP SP2 Professional(Vista 64 bit, Dual Boot),750GB 7200 RPM, 32 MB Cache Hard-drive(SATAII),24'' LCD( I know, sorry CRT'ers) HD 1080pi, DVI connected, 1920 x 1200 @ 60HZ),P35-DS3L Revision 2.0 @ 1.49V http://tinyurl.com/2zzzsr Use the Guide above to get PCSX2 to run properly. Has all you need to know to run PCSX2. Having trouble with a game? Check here: http://tinyurl.com/2cuzhx

March 26th, 2008	#133 (permalink)
Zedleouf Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: France Posts: 9	As for now, I have only one thing so say to you CottonVibes : Thanks for this thread ! As I said in the "General thanks" thread, you made my first CPSX2 try a victorious one For the moment my game works fine, but not better that on my PS2. But I really eager to play all my FF games only on my computer (FF7/8/9 done with outstanding perfomances, nearly done with FFX, woowoo !) __________________ Intel Core 2 CPU - 6600 @ 2.441 Ghz with a 8800 GTS

March 26th, 2008	#134 (permalink)
Phil Mod Master Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United States of Money Posts: 3,605	you could get even better speeds if you overclock your cpu to 3ghz..like the guide says __________________ Antec P182 Special Edition (Chrome Finish) : Intel e8400 (C0 Stepping @ 4.2Ghz : Thermaltake ToughPower 650 watt PSU : 4 GB Corsair Dominater DHX 1066 DDR2 Ram : Asus P5Q-E : 500 Gb Seagate : 74 GB Raptor : Samsung 20x DVD optical Drive : Samsung Syncmaster T220 22" LCD : Windows 95 : XFX 8800gt Cooling: Swiftech Apogee GTX Special Edition (Copper Finish) : Feser X-Changer Dual 120mm Radiator : XSPC Bay Resevoir : Danger den Chrome Barbs : Masterkleer 7/16 5/8 tubing : Danger Den D5 : D-Tek Fuzion VGA Block

March 26th, 2008	#135 (permalink)
Zedleouf Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: France Posts: 9	Even if I'm always tweaking my computer, I never tried OC I don't know, it's kinda scary __________________ Intel Core 2 CPU - 6600 @ 2.441 Ghz with a 8800 GTS

March 26th, 2008	#136 (permalink)
Phil Mod Master Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United States of Money Posts: 3,605	well you actually have a very overclockable chip. make a thread in the hardware section to get help on how to overclock it. __________________ Antec P182 Special Edition (Chrome Finish) : Intel e8400 (C0 Stepping @ 4.2Ghz : Thermaltake ToughPower 650 watt PSU : 4 GB Corsair Dominater DHX 1066 DDR2 Ram : Asus P5Q-E : 500 Gb Seagate : 74 GB Raptor : Samsung 20x DVD optical Drive : Samsung Syncmaster T220 22" LCD : Windows 95 : XFX 8800gt Cooling: Swiftech Apogee GTX Special Edition (Copper Finish) : Feser X-Changer Dual 120mm Radiator : XSPC Bay Resevoir : Danger den Chrome Barbs : Masterkleer 7/16 5/8 tubing : Danger Den D5 : D-Tek Fuzion VGA Block

March 26th, 2008	#137 (permalink)
Zedleouf Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: France Posts: 9	I'll do my best with software improvment first, as I only tried the emulator for a few minutes and on 2 games; but if it's still not enouth, i'll follow your advice and start finding infos regarding OC my proc. Thanks __________________ Intel Core 2 CPU - 6600 @ 2.441 Ghz with a 8800 GTS

March 26th, 2008	#138 (permalink)
Jundas Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: home Posts: 5	Didn't read the middle of this thread, but after using this guide I noticed you can get rid of the tiny jaggies by setting the internal resolution higher then your screen resolution. I tried to go crazy with it but that seemed to cause some instability (would love to try it in DX10 since someone told me that was a bit more stable but no Vista).

March 26th, 2008	#139 (permalink)
Mkilbride2588 The Pest Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 1,682	Higher resolutions require a more powerful Graphics card, I can go to 1920 x 1200 in some games, but only 1600 x 1200 in other games before noticing a slow down. It causes instability only in games that can't render at higher resolutions correctly, it might not be fixable. __________________ PC configuration Q6600 @ 3.4GHZ Stable,GeForce 8800 GT 512 MB GDDR3(Super-clocked) ,4GB PC8000(1000MHZ) RAM @ 950MHZ(5-5-5-15)(Waiting to tweak them eventually),Windows XP SP2 Professional(Vista 64 bit, Dual Boot),750GB 7200 RPM, 32 MB Cache Hard-drive(SATAII),24'' LCD( I know, sorry CRT'ers) HD 1080pi, DVI connected, 1920 x 1200 @ 60HZ),P35-DS3L Revision 2.0 @ 1.49V http://tinyurl.com/2zzzsr Use the Guide above to get PCSX2 to run properly. Has all you need to know to run PCSX2. Having trouble with a game? Check here: http://tinyurl.com/2cuzhx

March 26th, 2008	#140 (permalink)
k1ll1ngb0y Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: @home Posts: 1	Thank you for this very detailed tutorial. I have a question: are there any legal little games for testing the software? im sorry if this question was posted already. and also sry for my english if its bad. =] sincerely yours

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