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Old March 18th, 2007   #1 (permalink)
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PS3 - ps2 games will work with psx2 emu

There is a way that we can play region free ps2 games on PS3 even if sony says we cant play em and that compatiblity would be an issue. Well i think that since ps3 can run linux, and developers of pcsx2 are developing an emu for linux... HELLO we can just run it just like on PC with PS2 BIOS of US/JAP/UK making us to play NTSC or PAL games YAY YAY!!!
The best way to experience ps2 games -> just buy a ps3, its worth it

i hope linux version of pcsx2 will be released soon
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Old March 18th, 2007   #2 (permalink)
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You won't be able to run PCSX2 on the PS3 because a) PCSX2 is written for x86-PCs and b) you don't have access to the RSX (graphics chip of the PS3) on the PS3 while using linux.

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TO way complex. PCSX2 team would make a favor to Sony by developing emulator which is their stinking job after all.

Maybe reverse ing. of PS3 firmware could help??? i don't know... there is still a problem of GS emulation which is still in hardware, but EE is probably fully emulated. interesting
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@ ightchris, u are totally wrong. If u bothered to look at PCSX2 home page you would see that they did make a linux version. and also have u forgotten it is possible to emulate windows on linux thus POSSIBLE. The only thing that is stoppin it is the development team from making a program to utilise the RSX chip of PS3 instead of the normal PC where u use directX 9. Oh and btw u said u dont have access to the RSX chip when in linux, then u wouldnt be able to run linux then cause that defeats the whole purpose of running linux meaning u need a graphics card to operate the OS system.

so it is possible not impossible.
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@ ightchris, u are totally wrong. If u bothered to look at PCSX2 home page you would see that they did make a linux version. and also have u forgotten it is possible to emulate windows on linux thus POSSIBLE.
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you missundestand something..
they develope PCSX2 for X86 Linux PCs and not for Linux on Power PC (PS3)
its a complete different architecture...

and pcsx2 on an emulated windows on PS3 linux.. forget it.
you have to emulate the complete X86 architecture to run Windows.
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oh really?, and how would u know, have u tried it? i think not so u cant prove that it does not work. Linux is linux doesnt matter if on ps3 or not the OS is the same it hasnt changed and i have seen windows being emulated through linux through PS3 and it worked ok.
Go Youtubing it and u will find the answer, i hope its still there. otherwise wait until i get the ps3 and see for my self if it works

oh i found the link dat proves it here it is: YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

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They havn't tried it, so they don't know it won't work, but YOU havn't done it either, so you don't know also.

I'd listen to them, because they know what they're talking about is all.
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@ ightchris, u are totally wrong. If u bothered to look at PCSX2 home page you would see that they did make a linux version. and also have u forgotten it is possible to emulate windows on linux thus POSSIBLE.
Yes, you might emulate Windows in Linux on the PS3 but it will be very slow. Trying to run an emulator in an x86 OS which is itself emulated on a completely different architecture will get you, let's say, 0.1 % of the performance you would get on a PC.

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The only thing that is stoppin it is the development team from making a program to utilise the RSX chip of PS3 instead of the normal PC where u use directX 9. Oh and btw u said u dont have access to the RSX chip when in linux, then u wouldnt be able to run linux then cause that defeats the whole purpose of running linux meaning u need a graphics card to operate the OS system.
The 3D functions of the RSX are blocked.
Also the RSX may be similar to the G70 but it is not the same. You would need to make your own drivers.

Believe it or not, at the current state it's absolutely impossible. Sony would need to unlock their hole system and the devs of PCSX2 would need to make a special PS3 version of their emulator.
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Linux is linux, no matter what the hardware, that's kinda true, however, if you'd basically just run linux on a PS3 without optimizations specific to the PS3 hardware, then even the slowest Pentium 4 is faster than the PS3 when it's running Linux.
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God help some of these people... YOU CAN'T RUN PCSX2 ON THE PS3 THROUGH LINUX EVEN WHEN 0.93 COMES OUT AND THE HYPERVISOR IS HACKED TO ALLOW RSX ACCESS... the processor type (PPC) is completely different from most of the current processors.... PPC is what the old mac's used to use before moving over to using Intel ones.... It would only run if Refraction and the rest made a PPC compatible version which would take forever... Besides, what's the point? The PS3 already plays PS2 games, quite well for the most part, and for those games that don't work, I'm sure a loader will soon be available...
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1. ps3 doesnt run region free ps2 games so next best thing is using emulator.
2. if u havent seen the emulation of windows on PS3 using linux i suggest u do cause its working bullet proof on youtube. Although it may seem slow, in the future it is possible that windows would function properly just depends on how many people are willing to spend time to do this.
3. For those who say u cant run linux on ps3 or run emulated windows watch this bloody video on youtube than post ur comment, dont post things u didnt research or know and it is confirmed that linux - yellow dog runs on ps3.

Here is the link just click it and should redirect u to the PS3-linux: emulated windows: YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

and @ xJOSX - i know but i can only hope, if u dont believe that emulation on linux for ps2 dont work i suggest youtubing it.
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1. ps3 doesnt run region free ps2 games so next best thing is using emulator.
2. if u havent seen the emulation of windows on PS3 using linux i suggest u do cause its working bullet proof on youtube. Although it may seem slow, in the future it is possible that windows would function properly just depends on how many people are willing to spend time to do this.
3. For those who say u cant run linux on ps3 or run emulated windows watch this bloody video on youtube than post ur comment, dont post things u didnt research or know and it is confirmed that linux - yellow dog runs on ps3.

Here is the link just click it and should redirect u to the PS3-linux: emulated windows: YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

and @ xJOSX - i know but i can only hope, if u dont believe that emulation on linux for ps2 dont work i suggest youtubing it.
1. If you want region free games wait for a loader, it's more likely that the hypervisior will be hacked and a loader developed than PCSX2 to be rewritten, which would only work at reasonable speeds if RSX access was allowed, which would only happen through a hypervisior hack.
2. *sigh* yes, Windows ME and 98 do run... but ONLY UNDER A VIRTUAL MACHINE, with code for the PPC architecture... And if you think you are going to run a Ps2 emulator under a virtual machine with reasonable speeds, you have to be crazy...
3. And FFS duh, I KNOW you can run linux on a PS3, I have a Ps3 with linux installed (Fedora Core)... Along with SIMPLE emulators, like the NES, which are cpu dependant.

Simply put, there most likely won't be a PCSX2 for the PPC architecture, just so that the PS3 can play imported/pirated games... You are better off waiting for an iso loader and hope it plays PS2 games...
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i saw the video.
it runs with qemu, it emulate an complete PC, not Windows only.
its like bochs, when you know this.

so when you want PCSX2 under PS3 linux, the team have to port the current X86/X64 Linux build to a power PC linux build.
otherwise is it not possible to run it on PS3 because the X86/x64 build will have complete different calls.
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dammit there's still no dev here but don't worry when Refraction comes here with his supa-dupa mega mega scientific explanation pekayer will understand that it's possible to run PCSX2 on PS3 only IF the pcsx2 team decide to make PS3 Special ver. and the main goal is to run,play and enjoy ur PS2 games on PC cuz PS3 runs PS2 games

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@pekayer

Sony's already confirmed they will make PS3 region free, so why not just wait for their official release?

So you want to run Linux on your PS3, emulating Windows while running PCSX2 at the same time?... Yeah, keep dreaming .
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1. ps3 doesnt run region free ps2 games so next best thing is using emulator.
2. if u havent seen the emulation of windows on PS3 using linux i suggest u do cause its working bullet proof on youtube. Although it may seem slow, in the future it is possible that windows would function properly just depends on how many people are willing to spend time to do this.
3. For those who say u cant run linux on ps3 or run emulated windows watch this bloody video on youtube than post ur comment, dont post things u didnt research or know and it is confirmed that linux - yellow dog runs on ps3.

Here is the link just click it and should redirect u to the PS3-linux: emulated windows: YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

and @ xJOSX - i know but i can only hope, if u dont believe that emulation on linux for ps2 dont work i suggest youtubing it.

you also missed the vital fact that neither vmware nor kqemu support 3dfx. VMware is kind of getting there but not really. Pretty much, there is no way to run pcsx2 on the ps3 as of yet.

Now, when directx is supported under vmware, its just going to be way to damn slow to even bother with. So how about we stop with the PS3 threads already.
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i saw the video.
it runs with qemu, it emulate an complete PC, not Windows only.
its like bochs, when you know this.

so when you want PCSX2 under PS3 linux, the team have to port the current X86/X64 Linux build to a power PC linux build.
otherwise is it not possible to run it on PS3 because the X86/x64 build will have complete different calls.

When you say "it emulate an complete pc", you mean.. that it can run pc games and pc programs on the ps3?? Ps3 can play pc games under linux?
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PS3 running Linux running QEMU running Windows running PCSX2 running PS2 game, you are perverts
Don't forget that qemu doesn't support 3d acceleration either. But of course you'll be able to play something like Starcraft or Doom on it or some simple 3d game with software emulation(maybe even pcsx2 in theory, with 0.1 fps in menus), i guess it will work with reasonable speed. By the way, does qemu support kqemu acceleration on PS3 (i mean -kernel-kqemu option)?
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sigh, why do u guys go off track, I SAID ITS " POSSIBLE" to do it, i didnt say IT "DOES", " DOES" and "POSSIBLE" have different meanings if u guys didnt know. LOOK UP IN DICTIONARY. somewhere along the line there might be something better then QEMU. REMEMBER ITS "POSSIBLE" just like when they said Windows VISTA could not get hacked and get activated well that went down the sh@t hole didnt it. There are working hacks to get vista genuine and get it working perfectly.

and dont say that oh pekayer said PCSX2 does work on ps3, remember i said "possible", possible meaning it might work it might not, no one has actually done it and knows yet but someone will eventually do it.
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btw why do u people need to run pcsx2 on ps3 while the ps3 can play ps2 games by itself.this thread is pointless
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