Will the emulator run fast on my computer?

[dashboardy]

@ Ref: You mention XP - what about Vista? The Video card drivers are out of beta stage for ATI and I can confirm that the non-vm works. The VM version doesn't work because it can't change SE_Memory_LOck or whatever it is...

[refraction]

Originally Posted by dashboardy

@ Ref: You mention XP - what about Vista? The Video card drivers are out of beta stage for ATI and I can confirm that the non-vm works. The VM version doesn't work because it can't change SE_Memory_LOck or whatever it is...

PCSX2 is not designed for vista, which is why ive neither got it down as supported or recommended.

if someone wants to try it on their machine thats up to them, but our support focuses on XP

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[Red-XIII]

Just getting ready to build a new system as soon as I get the old tax refund back. I'm hoping it's gonna be able to get some smokin' FPS with this emu. From the looks of the list here seems I should be in the clear but just gotta make sure.

Here's the deal:

DFI INFINITY NF SLI-M2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Windsor 2.0GHz Socket AM2 Processor

2x PNY 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory

2x eVGA 256-P2-N550 -T2 GeForce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card (4 teh SLI) =D

APEVIA ATX-CW500WP4 ATX 500W Power Supply

Gonna get some heatsinks for the video card ram chips and a third party heatsink/fan for the processor too.

I'm thinkin' that should do pretty well with PCSX2, heh?

[dashboardy]

how much you spending on that rig? What HDD, why on earth go Athlon; go with C2D, and what's with the 7600 GT in SLI? Buy a 7900GS and then later on upgrade to SLI if need be.

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[Red-XIII]

Well I'm getting all my parts from newegg. The ones i listed plus a case and some arctic silver that I left out will equal out to $833.58 after taxes and shipping.

[dashboardy]

Originally Posted by Red-XIII

Well I'm getting all my parts from newegg. The ones i listed plus a case and some arctic silver that I left out will equal out to $833.58 after taxes and shipping.

go with just 1 GeForce 7900 GT (or 7950) it's approximatley the same performance but you can upgrade to two eventually. if need be. decent price for the specs tho.

[mikeyjrd]

How well will this emu for this PC?

opteron 175 @ 2.2ghz no-overclock
Zalman CNPS7700-CU
OCZ 2x1GB Plat. Ed. DDR400
ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
EVGA 7900GT superclocked edition
Antec P180 w/ 550watt power supply

How much should i overclock to get the emu almost "fully" working

very interested in trying this out for KOF XI & Gundam Seed Destiny 2 PLUS
...thanks

[dashboardy]

How well will this emu for this PC?

umm... try it out and see. probably 40-60 fps in FFX?

[refraction]

Originally Posted by mikeyjrd

How well will this emu for this PC?

opteron 175 @ 2.2ghz no-overclock
Zalman CNPS7700-CU
OCZ 2x1GB Plat. Ed. DDR400
ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
EVGA 7900GT superclocked edition
Antec P180 w/ 550watt power supply

How much should i overclock to get the emu almost "fully" working

very interested in trying this out for KOF XI & Gundam Seed Destiny 2 PLUS
...thanks

hmm, try this on for size.

Originally Posted by refraction

DO NOT reply if you are just going to ask "Will my system work? i have blah blah" because all you will get is a warning.

same kinda crap, you are asking how well itll work, i warned you not to ask that crap in this thread, the first post gives you a general idea, so try it for yourself instead of wasting our time asking.

You have been warned

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[jonc2006]

alright this is just something ive been wondering, say in a year or so down the road, would pc's made that far down be capable of running playable speeds without having to do additional hardware upgrades? what i mean is, would i be able to purchase a new pc "as is" and expect somewhat decent performance with pcsx2? i hear alot that pc technology is constantly being updated unlike console stuff and given that length of time for the technology to grow would it be logical to think that when that amount of time passes most new pc's would more fit to run pcsx2 without having to do other upgrades?

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[dashboardy]

Originally Posted by jonc2006

alright this is just something ive been wondering, say in a year or so down the road, would pc's made that far down be capable of running playable speeds without having to do additional hardware upgrades? what i mean is, would i be able to purchase a new pc "as is" and expect somewhat decent performance with pcsx2? i hear alot that pc technology is constantly being updated unlike console stuff and given that length of time for the technology to grow would it be logical to think that when that amount of time passes most new pc's would more fit to run pcsx2 without having to do other upgrades?

Seeing as how you can spend about 2000 bucks on a desktop now and get mostly playable speeds for well-tested games, next year you'll probably be able to spend about 1200 for something similar (i'm talking strictly desktop PC, no monitor, CDN dollars). But, as is always the case, you should know what you're getting. They will still be making Intel GMA (integrated) and other crappy video cards, which will be a hindrance to PCSX2 performance and will require upgrade. Video cards also go down in price but it seems like less so than computers themselves. For instance, a GeForce 7800 GTX is still worth at least 300-350 dollars (CDN), even though a 7950GT is pretty similar in performance but newer (and is itself about the same price). But if you're talking about going and buying a 900 dollar pc package with monitor and printer at best buy then no, it is unlikely that you'll be able to play. That's my assumption anyways - who knows, maybe the whole world will be running Q6600's and X2 5000+'s by the end of next year?

Also keep in mind that for a lot of games there are compatibility issues, due to the fact that PCSX2 is still technically a beta, and even with a Core 12 80 core processor it still wont' be able to run those games until the team can make some improvements (go team!)

[NexXxus]

Originally Posted by refraction

btw, does that card work with zerogs or just gsdx9?

just gsdx9.
it supports pixelshader 1.3 only.

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[jonc2006]

Originally Posted by dashboardy

Seeing as how you can spend about 2000 bucks on a desktop now and get mostly playable speeds for well-tested games, next year you'll probably be able to spend about 1200 for something similar (i'm talking strictly desktop PC, no monitor, CDN dollars). But, as is always the case, you should know what you're getting. They will still be making Intel GMA (integrated) and other crappy video cards, which will be a hindrance to PCSX2 performance and will require upgrade. Video cards also go down in price but it seems like less so than computers themselves. For instance, a GeForce 7800 GTX is still worth at least 300-350 dollars (CDN), even though a 7950GT is pretty similar in performance but newer (and is itself about the same price). But if you're talking about going and buying a 900 dollar pc package with monitor and printer at best buy then no, it is unlikely that you'll be able to play. That's my assumption anyways - who knows, maybe the whole world will be running Q6600's and X2 5000+'s by the end of next year?

Also keep in mind that for a lot of games there are compatibility issues, due to the fact that PCSX2 is still technically a beta, and even with a Core 12 80 core processor it still wont' be able to run those games until the team can make some improvements (go team!)

ok i see what your saying. i really havent been doing the pee pee dance over ps2 emulation right now anyway as like you said, its not a finished product. i dont really want to go through the trouble of getting another emulator up and running on my pc when the thing itself isnt really ready. i was just wondering what the time frame would be like for pc's to catch up to what a ps2 can pull off, like how big of a gap is there between what a standard pc today can do and what an individual ps2 can do. im guessing its got more to do with processers than graphic cards because ive seen many pc games that surpass what a typical ps2 game looks like.

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[dashboardy]

most likely the mid-high end desktop PC's (like ones you build yourself, with proper components NOT put together by some commercial OEM) by next year will be able to pretty much get max FPS, maybe 2 years. It seems like there is enough processing power in the high end dual cores (Core 2, Athlon X2, FX), but nowadays the most a retail computer (best buy, future shop, staples, etc) has in it is like an e6300 with crap ram, or Geforce 7300's - things that might make a consumer with little knowledge think "ooo a core 2 duo with a Geforce), and - don't get me wrong, that's a decent combination ... but it's not the high end. They put those chips in to make money. Lots of people with high end systems, (Core 2's @3 ghz with Geforce 7800 or ATi X1800) probably experience 55-60 FPS in lots of tested games. You can buy a comp from aretailer for 2000 bucks and it might have even a pentium d in it. Well a PD for 2000 bucks is a complete rip.

to summarize, it's always best to do some research and know what you're putting in. anyways that's my rant - hoepfully not too far off topic (we are allowed to discuss hardware here?)

[jonc2006]

that helped me alot man thanks. when i am ready to buy a new pc ill definetly keep that in mind. it doesnt really bother me on the waiting time, id rather be patient and wait till the emulator is in a decent stage so i will know what to get when the time comes.

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Geforce 6800 with unlocked pixel pipelines.
Athlon XP2500
512Mb DDR
Windows XP

I get around 5fps in Gran Turismo 4 Prologue

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[skoreanime]

Ohhh, hehe, is that the Barton 2500? I still have mine, OC'd to the 3200 specs...ahh, the memories .

[Red-XIII]

Originally Posted by dashboardy

go with just 1 GeForce 7900 GT (or 7950) it's approximatley the same performance but you can upgrade to two eventually. if need be. decent price for the specs tho.

Thanks. I've pretty much decided on this setup:

Linkworld 3210-04-C2628 Black/Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

BIOSTAR TForce 6100 AM2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX RoHs compliant AMD Motherboard

SAPPHIRE 100176L Radeon X1950PRO 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card

LOGISYS Computer PS575XBK ATX12V 575W Power Supply

2x pqi TURBO 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Desktop Memory

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Windsor 2.2GHz Socket AM2 Processor

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler

$786.02 after tax and shipping. Don't think I could do better for this price, plus it should be great for PCSX2.

[skoreanime]

It'll do you good in PCSX2, just OC that chip as far as you can. Judging from your cooler, around 2.5-2.7Ghz range would be realistic...but then again, that sounds like a cheap motherboard

[sinni800]

Mine is a
Intel Pentium D 805 @ 2,66 GHz
nVidia GeForce 6800 GS

@ ZeroGS 0.96.0 Plugin

Interlace Enable: No
Biinear Filtering: No
AntiAlaising: None
Size 800x600

Kingdom Hearts 1 PAL GERMAN (Disc): Ingame around 10-15 FPS

If i turn AntiAlaisung and Bilinear on, the framerate doesnt drop.

You didnt have any compatibility of "Zone of the Enders" PAL EUR GER.

So here it is..

The Game is stable. Well. It runs at 6 Fps ingame. The Scenes run at 10 Fps. The Videos run fairly ok. Sound works. But the entire game is so slow that the sound goes slow too. But its like theres player one sample after another. Like that is a Midi. The graphics ingame are a little ... well.. you know when you see the screen. Perhaps my computer is to blame for these results. I dont know. I just tell you what i see.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3267/zoeey7.jpg
And no, this isnt the animation when being hit by the enemy