Using Hardware Antialiasing in PCSX2 ! - Page 2

Quake3k · May 21st, 2008

fat fighters? what you mean? is my wide screen resolution^^

Nightmare85 · May 22nd, 2008

Look at my screenshots and compare them with yours.
I have black borders left and right.
You could press F6 (or F5?) while ingame.

Delete all your pcsx2 settings in your nvidia driver.
Then try it just with nHancer.
Make sure you use the same external and internal resolution

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NexXxus · May 22nd, 2008

why did you check vsync in gsdx?
it mostly slows the framerate down to 30 for me.

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Nightmare85 · May 22nd, 2008

I never have problems when I use v-sync.
I thought there are only big slow downs if frame skipping is on.
However, I don't need it.

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nexxuno · May 22nd, 2008

hey could you please explain how to use internal/external resolution in a few words?red a few guides but i'm still missing it.......

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Nightmare85 · May 22nd, 2008

External: Just the resolution which your monitor shows (the output)
Internal is more complicated.
I think it is how good a game will be rendered by the plugin.
(The real game resolution gets increased).

The external should depends on the internal.
That means an external resolution of 1680x1050 never would help you
if the internal will be bad (example: 800x600)

Ok, I am now tired and going sleeping

If I told bull****, it was because of the time. haha

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NexXxus · May 22nd, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexxuno

hey could you please explain how to use internal/external resolution in a few words?red a few guides but i'm still missing it.......

ok, the external resolution is the resolution your monitor use for fullscreen in the list above,
internal resolution is the resolution of the render target, its a virtual resolution.
if you set the internal resolution that it fits to the external one
example: ext: 1680x1050, int: 1680x1050, then you can use Antialiasing by using the compatiblity mode in nHancer.

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Quake3k · May 22nd, 2008

Figure it out now had to change game to atleast see some diffrence

screen 1 without aa screen 3 with aa screen 2 without aa screen 4 with aa, take alook at the fence behind eks

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Nightmare85 · May 22nd, 2008

lol I don't see any differences. good night

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Quake3k · May 22nd, 2008

And here is also 2 screens with higher internal resoltuion
first with higher internal second without higher internal

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Quake3k · May 22nd, 2008

Just for a note nightmare

i stick with the higher internal resolution atleast i see more diffrence there even i configured nhancer how it did look at your config

tuanming · May 22nd, 2008

I match my external and internal res with the same resolution and they look great

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**rama2** · May 22nd, 2008

Nice find, NexXxus.
Now if performance wouldnt suffer that much

nexxuno · May 22nd, 2008

ok thx....so you usually put your int resolution up to the external resolution limit? right?....and it is internal resolution that cause fps drop not external...am i right?

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NexXxus · May 22nd, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by rama2

Nice find, NexXxus.
Now if performance wouldnt suffer that much

yea but it has a handicap...
pcsx2 crash for me after playing a while with AA and my computer goes crazy.
it completely hangs up in windows and all what i can do is moving the mouse and press the reset button

No problems without AA.

Maybe the compat mode is bugged?

did you noticed similar phenomens?

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Originally Posted by nexxuno

and it is internal resolution that cause fps drop not external...am i right?

thats correct.

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**rama2** · May 22nd, 2008

I didnt test that AA method long enough yet, but considering the hacky nature of that compatibility mode
its not that surprising, eh

metall_pingwin · May 25th, 2008

So this has no effect when internal resolution is set to Native is that right?

NexXxus · May 25th, 2008

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Originally Posted by metall_pingwin

So this has no effect when internal resolution is set to Native is that right?

yes, it MUST match to the external fullscreen resolution.

e.g.: 1680x1050, 1280x1024,1024x768, 800x600.
640x480 does not work because you can't go below 512px

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**cottonvibes** · May 25th, 2008

i think if you click the native checkbox, it uses 640x480 instead of 640x512.

so you might be able to use it with 640x480 resolution... although i'm not sure about that.

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NexXxus · May 25th, 2008

no native will use the native resolution of the PS2/game, and thats not 640x480.

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May 21st, 2008	#21 (permalink)
Quake3k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 102	fat fighters? what you mean? is my wide screen resolution^^

May 22nd, 2008	#23 (permalink)
NexXxus it'se miku! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 3,604	why did you check vsync in gsdx? it mostly slows the framerate down to 30 for me. __________________ My System: C2D E6700 @3.4ghz \| Asus P5W DH Deluxe \| 4GB DDR2 800 \| eVGA Geforce GTX 260 55nm SC-Edition Tutorial: Hardware Antialiasing in PCSX2 (DX9 only)

May 22nd, 2008	#24 (permalink)
Nightmare85 Registrierter Benutzer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 205	I never have problems when I use v-sync. I thought there are only big slow downs if frame skipping is on. However, I don't need it. __________________ Greets---N--i--g--h--t--m a--r--e Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3,2 GHZ (1,184 V) with Noctua NH12F, XFX GeForce 8800 GTS G92, Kingston HyperX KHX6400D2LLK2/2G (4x 1 GB DDR2-800 CL 4-4-4-12), Asus P5E, Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty Pro with Logitech X-540, Tagan TG580-U22 2force 580 Watt, Western Digital WD6400AAKS + 250 GB external HDD + 80 GB iPod, LG GSA-H10NBB, Logitech G9, Logitech G15, Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2, Logitech Rumblepad 2 refresh, Cooler Master Cavalier (Window-Kit), 22" TFT monitor, WinXP Pro SP3

May 22nd, 2008	#25 (permalink)
nexxuno Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: italy Posts: 53	hey could you please explain how to use internal/external resolution in a few words?red a few guides but i'm still missing it....... __________________ ----------------------------------------- motherboard Asus p5b-e intel core2duo 6750 @3.216Ghz X2 3gb DDR2 Kingston 800 Dual Channel ATI Club3d HD4870 OCedition 512MB DDR5 IBM crt flat screen 19" WindowsVista Premium 32bit Service pack 1 ------------------------------------------

May 22nd, 2008	#26 (permalink)
Nightmare85 Registrierter Benutzer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 205	External: Just the resolution which your monitor shows (the output) Internal is more complicated. I think it is how good a game will be rendered by the plugin. (The real game resolution gets increased). The external should depends on the internal. That means an external resolution of 1680x1050 never would help you if the internal will be bad (example: 800x600) Ok, I am now tired and going sleeping If I told bull**, it was because of the time. haha __________________ Greets---N--i--g--h--t--m a--r--e** Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3,2 GHZ (1,184 V) with Noctua NH12F, XFX GeForce 8800 GTS G92, Kingston HyperX KHX6400D2LLK2/2G (4x 1 GB DDR2-800 CL 4-4-4-12), Asus P5E, Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty Pro with Logitech X-540, Tagan TG580-U22 2force 580 Watt, Western Digital WD6400AAKS + 250 GB external HDD + 80 GB iPod, LG GSA-H10NBB, Logitech G9, Logitech G15, Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2, Logitech Rumblepad 2 refresh, Cooler Master Cavalier (Window-Kit), 22" TFT monitor, WinXP Pro SP3

May 22nd, 2008	#29 (permalink)
Nightmare85 Registrierter Benutzer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 205	lol I don't see any differences. good night __________________ Greets---N--i--g--h--t--m a--r--e Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3,2 GHZ (1,184 V) with Noctua NH12F, XFX GeForce 8800 GTS G92, Kingston HyperX KHX6400D2LLK2/2G (4x 1 GB DDR2-800 CL 4-4-4-12), Asus P5E, Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty Pro with Logitech X-540, Tagan TG580-U22 2force 580 Watt, Western Digital WD6400AAKS + 250 GB external HDD + 80 GB iPod, LG GSA-H10NBB, Logitech G9, Logitech G15, Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2, Logitech Rumblepad 2 refresh, Cooler Master Cavalier (Window-Kit), 22" TFT monitor, WinXP Pro SP3

May 22nd, 2008	#31 (permalink)
Quake3k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 102	Just for a note nightmare i stick with the higher internal resolution atleast i see more diffrence there even i configured nhancer how it did look at your config

May 22nd, 2008	#32 (permalink)
tuanming Final Fantasy XXX Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA, TX Posts: 2,404	I match my external and internal res with the same resolution and they look great __________________ Intel Core2Duo E6300 1.86Ghz L629A244 @ 3.78GHz Asus P5K-E Wifi/AP Rev.1.02g Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120+ FM121 (110 cfm fan) ATI x1900 GT Rev.2 256mb 513/657 G.Skill 2x1gb Hz--540MHz CORSAIR CMPSU-1000HX 1000W

May 22nd, 2008	#33 (permalink)
rama2 Emu author Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,187	Nice find, NexXxus. Now if performance wouldnt suffer that much

May 22nd, 2008	#34 (permalink)
nexxuno Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: italy Posts: 53	ok thx....so you usually put your int resolution up to the external resolution limit? right?....and it is internal resolution that cause fps drop not external...am i right? __________________ ----------------------------------------- motherboard Asus p5b-e intel core2duo 6750 @3.216Ghz X2 3gb DDR2 Kingston 800 Dual Channel ATI Club3d HD4870 OCedition 512MB DDR5 IBM crt flat screen 19" WindowsVista Premium 32bit Service pack 1 ------------------------------------------

May 22nd, 2008	#36 (permalink)
rama2 Emu author Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,187	I didnt test that AA method long enough yet, but considering the hacky nature of that compatibility mode its not that surprising, eh

May 25th, 2008	#37 (permalink)
metall_pingwin Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 22	So this has no effect when internal resolution is set to Native is that right?

May 25th, 2008	#40 (permalink)
NexXxus it'se miku! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 3,604	no native will use the native resolution of the PS2/game, and thats not 640x480. __________________ My System: C2D E6700 @3.4ghz \| Asus P5W DH Deluxe \| 4GB DDR2 800 \| eVGA Geforce GTX 260 55nm SC-Edition Tutorial: Hardware Antialiasing in PCSX2 (DX9 only)