Wipeout and Wipeout XL run too fast

Gyruss · May 24th, 2003

The video plugin reports 60 FPS but everything runs about 4 times normal speed. I've reset the plugins and the emulator to default but it didn't help. I'm thinking it's a flaw in the emulation, but if anyone's found a workaround I'd love to know.

zerocopy · May 24th, 2003

the game was meant to be frantically fast, unlesss you have pal then set fps to 50

**linuzappz** · May 24th, 2003

hi, maybe the ''Parasite Eve 2, Vandal Hearts 1/2 Fix" option could help you, else you could limit the fps to 15 or 20 fps.

**Kane** · May 24th, 2003

Have you got PC FPS calculation on? It can sometimes cause wierd FPS results

Gyruss · May 25th, 2003

It's on NTSC.
Tried the Parasite Eve fix and it had some effect but it didn't help.
Basically the gameplay is running too fast, e.g. the spinning models of the ships and maps in Wipeout XL spin so fast that they blur, and Vector speed feels like Phantom speed.

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Have you got PC FPS calculation on? It can sometimes cause wierd FPS results

Where can I check for PC FPS calculation?

**Kane** · May 25th, 2003

It's in Special Games fixes

Gyruss · May 28th, 2003

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Have you got PC FPS calculation on? It can sometimes cause wierd FPS results.

I didn't have it on. For the heck of it I turned it on, and it cut the framerate in half but did nothing to the game speed.

Good guess on my using Pete's OpenGL plugin, by the way. When I use the same settings (PC FPS calculation off) in ePSXe, both games run great. In PCSX, the gameplay is too fast.

This really sucks for me because my PS2 console runs Wipeout XL at half framerate whenever the neGcon is used (smoothing and disc speed make no difference), and PCSX is the only Windows emulator I know of that supports the neGcon.

Manoloco · June 3rd, 2003

I have the same problem. and i have tried limiting fps in all ways possible via the video plugin, but like you said it shows the fps i limit it to, but the game runs extremely fast, and to those that think that we are mistaking it with the actual game speed should try it first, because Gyruss, like me, have played the game in the actual hardware.

I agree in that it could be an emu problem but to be more precise i think its an emu-plugin interaction problem, maybe it will get fixed in the next release.

Is the game always running too fast on your system gyruss or does it hiccups back to normal speed on ocassions ?

Btw, seeing you are a Wipeout fan like me i recomend you visit:

http://www.wipeoutzone.com

that is if you havent already been there, its the BEST wipeout community/forum i have found and there are excelent competition times on that board, great really great ppl, and the game designers also come from time to time on the forums and have great deals of information to share about the game.

Its a pity to hear that wipeout xl slowdowns in ps2 using the negcon, coz i am about to buy one but playing WOXL with my negcon was one of the main reasons to get it, i thank you very much for giving me that info just in time, tho i think i will end buying it just for Gran Turismo 3/4, again a pity they didint add negcon support for that game, logitech and their force wheel might have been the reason they didnt add the negcon..

May 24th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
Gyruss Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 19	Wipeout and Wipeout XL run too fast The video plugin reports 60 FPS but everything runs about 4 times normal speed. I've reset the plugins and the emulator to default but it didn't help. I'm thinking it's a flaw in the emulation, but if anyone's found a workaround I'd love to know.

May 24th, 2003	#4 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Have you got PC FPS calculation on? It can sometimes cause wierd FPS results __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

May 25th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	It's in Special Games fixes __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

June 3rd, 2003	#8 (permalink)
Manoloco Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 16	I have the same problem. and i have tried limiting fps in all ways possible via the video plugin, but like you said it shows the fps i limit it to, but the game runs extremely fast, and to those that think that we are mistaking it with the actual game speed should try it first, because Gyruss, like me, have played the game in the actual hardware. I agree in that it could be an emu problem but to be more precise i think its an emu-plugin interaction problem, maybe it will get fixed in the next release. Is the game always running too fast on your system gyruss or does it hiccups back to normal speed on ocassions ? Btw, seeing you are a Wipeout fan like me i recomend you visit: http://www.wipeoutzone.com that is if you havent already been there, its the BEST wipeout community/forum i have found and there are excelent competition times on that board, great really great ppl, and the game designers also come from time to time on the forums and have great deals of information to share about the game. Its a pity to hear that wipeout xl slowdowns in ps2 using the negcon, coz i am about to buy one but playing WOXL with my negcon was one of the main reasons to get it, i thank you very much for giving me that info just in time, tho i think i will end buying it just for Gran Turismo 3/4, again a pity they didint add negcon support for that game, logitech and their force wheel might have been the reason they didnt add the negcon.. Last edited by Manoloco; June 3rd, 2003 at 02:48.

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May 24th, 2003	#2 (permalink)
zerocopy Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,953	the game was meant to be frantically fast, unlesss you have pal then set fps to 50

May 24th, 2003	#3 (permalink)
linuzappz Emu author Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 146	hi, maybe the ''Parasite Eve 2, Vandal Hearts 1/2 Fix" option could help you, else you could limit the fps to 15 or 20 fps.