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[Fadingz]

Tough decision, but I have to say:
Ayashi no Ceres
Blassreiter
Kyo no go no ni

xD~

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[Radix865]

Originally Posted by Fadingz

Tough decision, but I have to say:
Ayashi no Ceres
Blassreiter
Kyo no go no ni

xD~

I noticed from your list that it didn't mention Ichigo Mashimaro... It kind of reminds Kyo no gononi, I seriously recommend it!!!

But for me to suppress my favourites it'd be like this:

Horror/tragedy/Suspension: Higurashi No Naku Koroni and Higurashi No Naku Koroni Kai
Comedy: Hayate No Gotoku
Everyday Life: Kyou No Gononi, Lucky Star, Ichigo Mashimaro and Minami-Ke(+Okawari +Okaeri)

All are just awesome!

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[Proto]

Kyo no go no ni

The TV or the OVA series?

BTW, just wondering but, HITFH is Hyakko supposed to be a drama series, save for second last episode????

edit: NVM, for reasons beyond my understanding you merged drama and slice of life.

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[Xblade]

Originally Posted by Fadingz

Animes I like the most
(just thought that I should put the list in the relevant topic )
comedy
tragedy
neutral

Supernatural/Horror:
Jigoku Shoujo
Elfen Lied
Ghost Hunt
Chaos Head
Kara no Kyōkai
Mushi-Uta

Mystery:
Detective Conan
Kindaichi Shounen no Jikenbo

Supernatural:
Ayashi no Ceres
The Meloncholy of Suzumiya Haruhi
Gakuen Alice
Ghost Sweeper Mikami
Ga Rei Zero

Mecha:
Blassreiter
Linebarrel of Iron
Full Metal Panic!
Buso Renkin

Fighting:
One Piece
Tenjho Tenge
Black God
ikki tousen
Mai Hime
Rurouni Kenshin
Ranma 1/2
D.N.Angel
Rave Master
Shakugan no Shana
Star Ocean
Inukami

Drama/everyday life:
Kannagi
Minamike
Suzuka
White Album
Welcome to the N.H.K.
Ouran High School Host Club
Love Hina
Kyo no go no ni
Chobits
Lucky Star
Hand Maid May
Final Approach
Midori no Hibi
Sayonara Zetsubo Sensei
School Rumble
Toradora
Time of Eve
Akikan
Asu no Yoichi
Seto no Hanayome
Ah My Goddess
Hyako
Daa Daa Daa
Kemeko Deluxe!

Blassreiter would better fit under Supernatural/horror. The 3 mecha are only seen in the last episodes and aren't even fighting each other. >_>

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[SCHUMI_4EVER]

What did you like about Full Metal Panic Fadz?
Sure Sasuke and Chidori and great fun...but the actual action, the entire thing the series was based on was rather poor and lacking with almost nothing ever being propperly explained and the story not flowing very well at all..in fact the different bits are just about disconnected from each other....and this just about only makes Fumoffu any good as it at least provides laughs whereas the actual series fails to put together a coherrent and well explained story.


I finally remember who the main character of Gundam 00 reminds me of again though...it's Sasuke...I forgot the guy's name in 00 but he's the Pilot of Gundam Exia.

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[imlost]

I finally remember who the main character of Gundam 00 reminds me of again though...it's Sasuke...I forgot the guy's name in 00 but he's the Pilot of Gundam Exia.

Setsuna F. Seiei

But Setsuna isn't as emo as Sasuke. >_>

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[SCHUMI_4EVER]

Sasuke is emo 0_o....on edge and by the book yes...but not emo...I don't mean Naruto's Sasuke btw, I mean Sagarra Sasuke...


Edit: Damnit I screwed up on the name it's Sousuke, so Setsuna reminds of Sousuke.

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[Proto]

What did you like about Full Metal Panic Fadz?
Sure Sasuke and Chidori and great fun...but the actual action, the entire thing the series was based on was rather poor and lacking with almost nothing ever being propperly explained and the story not flowing very well at all..in fact the different bits are just about disconnected from each other....and this just about only makes Fumoffu any good as it at least provides laughs whereas the actual series fails to put together a coherrent and well explained story.

If you consider Full Metal Panic not as a plot driven story like most mecha stories, but as a character driven story which happens to have a mecha background you will see what most of the FMP fans acclaim the series for

It also happens to be one of my favorite mecha favorites for this same reason.

BTW it's not Sasuke, but Sousuke.

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[SCHUMI_4EVER]

Everything must be plot driven, even slice of life, anything else is unacceptable (which is why bad endings kill so many good shows in my books).

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[Proto]

Everything must be plot driven, even slice of life, anything else is unacceptable.

Well that is your POV

Trivia pont: BTW by its very definition slice of life cannot be plot driven, and if its plot driven its not slice of life. Slice of life is primarily and foremost environment and feeling driven, with an optional (but never major) focus on the characters

Also, about (FMP), having Shimokawa Mikuni singing the OPs doesn't hurt at all. Specially for Fumoffu's OP, Sore ga ai deshou.

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[Radix865]

Originally Posted by Proto

If you consider Full Metal Panic not as a plot driven story like most mecha stories, but as a character driven story which happens to have a mecha background you will see what most of the FMP fans acclaim the series for

It also happens to be one of my favorite mecha favorites for this same reason.

BTW it's not Sasuke, but Sousuke.

Its also one of my favourite Mecha animes, and one of the few that I like on that genre at all! Though I still think fumoffu is better than the original series or TSR...

Originally Posted by SCHUMI-4-EVA

Everything must be plot driven, even slice of life, anything else is unacceptable (which is why bad endings kill so many good shows in my books).

Not true! Excel Saga is a perfect example of completely plotless but is still an awesome anime!!! I should rewatch that soon BTW!

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[Proto]

Its also one of my favourite Mecha animes, and one of the few that I like on that genre at all! Though I still think fumoffu is better than the original series or TSR...

Well, to each to his own. IMHO Fumoffu was not as character driven as it was just wacky school life. Which is why I liked TSR more. Not to mention it was one of the first series where KyoAni could display their full prowess.

Not true! Excel Saga is a perfect example of completely plotless but is still an awesome anime!!! I should rewatch that soon BTW!

Plotless != pointless Don't give him bad examples.

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[SCHUMI_4EVER]

It has to have some plot...otherwise it's just like an american sitcom...characters can't grow without some sort of goal to work towards...and no matter how impressive and interesting the growth if it does not equal reaching that end goal it's entirely pointless. Unless it's just something completely random and off the wall like Excel Saga which is (or at least originally was till it got a plot and started failing) entirely based on providing humour due to sheer insanity and randomness.

Beck for instance spent all it's episodes building up the main character as a musical genius only to have the band disolve at the end, then reform but never reach that same awesomeness again. What good is all that character building if the main character never reaches any sort of status at the end even after being heralded numerous times mid-story?

It's like you studying hours and hours for a test but you still fail...thus that means that you wasted hour and hours on studying as you ultimately achieved nothing and might as well have been listening to music or playing games the entire time you spent studying.

Even one of your favourite series, Maria-sama ga Miteru has an ongoing plot with goals being set and reached at certain points, granted they are less glamorous than firing dozens of rockets around to save the world from the ultimate evil, but they are still there and drive the characters and explain and define their growth path. And if they fail to meet that goal then it means that everything you saw was wasted time and entirely pointless. They might as well have been playing Bingo for 25 episodes as the end result would have been the same. It means what you saw was not enough, there has to be more, and if there is not then it's just a collosal waste of time and might as well never have been done in the first place. And if the form of entertainment never wished to reach those goals then they should never have alluded to them in the first place as by doing so they created false created expectations which they were never planning to meet.


Also this lack of flowing plot would explain why Fomuffo is generally the most liked part of FMP, through it's hillarious scenarios it's sole purpose becomes providing a laugh rather than trying to have a story and failing like the rest of the series.


So let me restate, unless the goal is to have people laughing themselves to death or providing some sort of educational matter everything has to have a plot and thus be plot-driven and thus it's ending is crucial as it is a measure of what the characters are actually able to achieve and how well they grew when you first met them.

Life is defined by goals, thus a show and all other entertainment which contains characters has to be defined by a plot, some sort of goal, unless as I said before it's sole purpose is providing laughs or being edicuational material.

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[Proto]

Oh, when I said that the a series focus is or is not the plot, I never referred to a series having no plot at all. Only some sort of hierarchy of what the director gives more importance to.

As I have expressed earlier, IMHO a series can be divided into 3 parts

- Its plot
- Its characters
- Its environment.

And different series focus on different things.

Let's take space opera for example. What's the difference between series like Legend the Galactic Heroes, series like Gundam and series like Crest of the Stars? Legend of the Galactic Heroes is almost an entirely plot driven series, and its characters are just instruments that are used for the series to advance. The focus is the grand scenario, the story, the characters are just the actors used for this story to move. This doesn't mean that the character have no focus, on the contrary, the characters of Reinhard and Yang Wenli are greatly developed throughtout the series. However they are just the series figureheads of the two great fighting forces that are meeting in the arena called the plot.

On the other side, Crest of the Stars is also space Opera but its focus is much more tilted towards the characters. Of course there is an ongoing plot about the war between the Abh and the humans, but that is just a setting for the main characters, Lafiel and Jinto to develp. The plot here is just the background to give colors to the characters life. I'd say Gundam is somewhere in between. Marimite, which you mentioned as an example is normally seen as a character driven series. That doesn't mean there is no plot. But the plot in Marimite is fairly mediocre and uninteresting. However the series shines for its characters.

In contrast, we have environment driven series. What these series try to convey more than a story, or that a character tribulation is a certain feeling, or the such. Series like ARIA are the prime example of this. Of course there is an ongoing plot of Akari et. al. trying to become undines. Of course we see the development of the rookie undines, and how they grow as persons every character. But the main character of this series is the planet itself, that is, the scenario. Aqua is almost a state of mind, of contemplation and love for the slow life, that is the series main message.

Series that completely neglect one or the other side normally just don't work, that I'll agree.

On that, I think you'll agree with me that most mecha stories are plot driven, and on that respect Full Metal Panic plot isn't particularly good, however the strong point of this series are the character themselves, and how they developed throughout the story. That was what I was trying to say.

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I am watching
Ghost In the Shell Stand alone Complex episode 8
Inuyasha Episode 107
Chrono Crusade Episode 1
Saikano Episode 1
Wolf Rain Episode 1
Cowbow bebop Episode 3
Naruto Episode 97
Bleach Episode 207

I am planing to watch Lovely Complex is it good????
What is the anime that make you cry?????? best one Plz dont suggest Fullmoon Sa****e!!!!!!

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

Yes but the plot is still critical as depending on how well the goals are accomplished you can tell how successfully the characters grew. If the goals are not accomplished then they did not grow enough and any growth that was shown was entirely pointless as it did not lead to a favourable end result.

If the plot does not flow then there is no defined growth path and there is no reason as to why the characters are growing and acting in a certain manner.


For instance let's say your goal was getting a degree. Without an explanation of what degree, which subcourses you have to do and how long it will take you will have no idea what to do.

I mean sitting in front of a PC for hours programming away might help you grow your coding experience but if your goal was to become an Event organiser or someone involved in disaster management then it would be entirely pointless and you might as well have spent the time doing absolutely nothing, or playing games all day long or whatever.

However by knowing what degree you are studying and what subcourses you have to take you can judge how many hours you will have to put into learning what and how your knowledge will have to grow in order for you to pass and reach your goal of getting that degree.

In the same way a clear and flowing plot is crucial to anything containing characters, as it defines their goals which in turn define how the character needs to grow. Without knowning that the characters growth seems pointless and entirely unreasonable, I mean he could be building up his physical strength which would lead you to assume he's going to get into some sort of physical fight, but the end has him going off to win a gun-fight. Would then not all that muscle building he did be entirely pointless and would his time not have been better spent working on dodging and his aim? In such a case the ending would ruin the show and a huge growth path would be rendered utterly useless and pointless.

For the growth to have any sort of meaning clear goals have to be mentioned and achieved.



So to come back to FMP if all that growth and interaction between Sousuke and Chidori had lead to her enhancing her Whipsered powers which would lead to a new ability for Sousuke's mech which would allow to defeat his mortal enemy in the red mech then it would have all made sense....but such was never the case...

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[Fadingz]

Originally Posted by SCHUMI-4-EVA

What did you like about Full Metal Panic Fadz?
Sure Sasuke and Chidori and great fun...but the actual action, the entire thing the series was based on was rather poor and lacking with almost nothing ever being propperly explained and the story not flowing very well at all..in fact the different bits are just about disconnected from each other....and this just about only makes Fumoffu any good as it at least provides laughs whereas the actual series fails to put together a coherrent and well explained story.


I finally remember who the main character of Gundam 00 reminds me of again though...it's Sasuke...I forgot the guy's name in 00 but he's the Pilot of Gundam Exia.

I should have specified the second season xD~

Originally Posted by Xblade

Blassreiter would better fit under Supernatural/horror. The 3 mecha are only seen in the last episodes and aren't even fighting each other. >_>

That is true, but I think it would fit better for 'Tragedy' but it'd kind of weird to be alone there, but yeah, supernatural might be a better fit than mecha.

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[SCHUMI_4EVER]

Gee thanks a lot for that Fadz, now you have sparked another debate between Proto and myself

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[Fadingz]

Originally Posted by SCHUMI-4-EVA

Gee thanks a lot for that Fadz, now you have sparked another debate between Proto and myself

You are very welcome!!!

[ps I actually didn't even watch the other seasons...]

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[Phil]

Anyone know when Haruhi season 2 is coming out??

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