Mr. Jack Thompson Discussion

[Viper_Viper]

Originally Posted by Ctrl+Alt+Del

“I'm an adult, and if I want to play a video game that contains violence or sex, that's my constitutional right. And it's the right of the developers to create these games.

Don't start trying to **** with the choices of adults, Jack, unless you're prepared to take on pornography, alcohol, cigarettes and gambling. And booze, cigs and poker have been proven to have negative mental and physical effects on people. You can't say that about video games.

And pornography... well porn is just great. Everyone loves porn.”

Ok, I am getting really tired of Mr. Jack Thompson. I really do agree with the quote above by the comic Ctrl+Alt+Del. Please, state your opinions on the topic and lets analyze the pros and cons of Thompson’s arguments.

Let me start out with a quote by him.

Originally Posted by Jack Thompson

"Sims 2, the latest version of the Sims video game franchise...contains, according to video game news sites, full frontal nudity, including nipples, penises, labia, and pubic hair."

[Player-X]

Thoughts on Islam

In an interview with the Sun-Sentinel, Thompson expressed his views on Islam [28][29][30][31]:

"The Bible doesn't promote killing innocent people," Thompson said. "Grand Theft Auto does. Islam does."
"Islam promotes the killing of innocent people," Thompson said. "The Quran requires the infidel, whether Jew or Christian, to be killed. … That's a core essence of the religion. … Muhammad was a pirate who killed infidels and who advocated the killing of infidels. Not a nice guy. Osama bin Laden is in keeping with his fine tradition."

Darth Vader: I find that statement......Disturbing
Somehow I think archiblad will agree with him on that even if everyone else including me think this douche bag is just about completely lost it
I also think that talking about him is kind of pointless as we have trown every insult at him in another thread besides, if you have the guy do what I do: use the icon

[masque]

People like Thompson unfortuneately are starting to run our country. The state of California recently passed a law barring minors from purchasing M rated video games. I'm sure most of you realize just how useless this law will be. Any kid with a decent amount of brains will either steal a parents credit card and buy it online, convince an older friend to buy it, or ask their parents like they have been since the beginning of time.

Penny Arcade also tried to talk some sense into Thompson. He promptly threatened them with retribution.

Originally Posted by Jack Thompson

"Sims 2, the latest version of the Sims video game franchise...contains, according to video game news sites, full frontal nudity, including nipples, penises, labia, and pubic hair."

Wha? When I played the "sims" everything was completely blurred out. Is this quote even remotely accurate?

[zen_master]

Would you just please, please forget about this guy. You do realize that U.S Governtment does not pay attention to him, or anything he does.

This is straight from Wikipedia:

Some consider Thompson to be a Wertham-like figure in the video gaming world. However, Thompson lacks Wertham's psychology background, and his actions have not led to a censorship movement; neither has he succeeded in connecting the media in question to violent crime in the eyes of the US Government.

one more:

..the Florida Supreme Court ordered that he undergo psychiatric testing...

Thats what Thompson does, he needs to make money somehow. So plese just let this go already..

[Player-X]

Attorney Proposes Violent Game
Jack Thompson will give $10,000 to charity if any videogame company makes and releases a game based on a scenario he created.

Miami, Florida Attorney Jack Thompson, a long-time outspoken critic of violent and sexually explicit videogames, has done something totally unexpected. Thompson today actually proposed a violent videogame, and will pay $10,000 to the favorite charity of Paul Eibeler (the Chairman of Take-Two Interactive) if any videogame company will "create, manufacture, distribute, and sell a video game in 2006" based on a scenario he created.

Thompson's proposal is titled A Modest Video Game Proposal and has been sent to members of the press and apparantly to Douglas Lowenstein, President of the ESA.

Here's Thompson's proposal (italics are his, not ours):

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." The Golden Rule

This writer has been saying for seven years that violent video games can be "murder simulators" that incite as well as train some obsessive teen players to be violent.

I've been on 60 Minutes and in Reader's Digest this year explaining how an Alabama teen, with no criminal record, shot two policemen and a dispatcher in their heads and fled in a police car--a scenario he rehearsed for hundreds of hours on Take-Two/Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto video games.

I have sat with boys in jail cells, their lives over because of murder convictions, after they, with no history of violence, have killed innocents while in a dreamlike state. Said one cop who investigated such a murder in Grand Rapids, Michigan: "The killing was like an extension of the game."

The video game industry, through its lawyers, its spokesmen, and its head lobbyist, Doug Lowenstein, the president of the Entertainment Software Association, all say it is utter nonsense to suggest that what is dumped into a kid's head hour after hour, day after day, year after year, could possibly have behavioral consequences. Cigarette ads can persuade kids to smoke, but interactive simulators in which these same kids punch, hack, bludgeon, and maim affect not a wit their attitudes and behaviors, notwithstanding the findings of the American Psychological Association, published in August 2005.

The video game industry says Sticks and stones can break my bones, but games can never hurt me. Fine. I have a modest proposal for the video game industry. I'll write a check for $10,000 to the favorite charity of Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc's chairman, Paul Eibeler - a man Bernard Goldberg ranks as #43 in his book 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America - if any video game company will create, manufacture, distribute, and sell a video game in 2006 like the following:

Osaki Kim is the father of a high school boy beaten to death with a baseball bat by a 14-year-old gamer. The killer obsessively played a violent video game in which one of the favored ways of killing is with a bat. The opening scene, before the interactive game play begins, is the Los Angeles courtroom in which the killer is sentenced "only" to life in prison after the judge and the jury have heard experts explain the connection between the game and the murder.

Osaki Kim (O.K.) exits the courtroom swearing revenge upon the video game industry whom he is convinced contributed to his son's murder. "Vengeance is mine, I will repay" he says. And boy, is O.K. not kidding.

O.K. is provided in his virtual reality playpen a panoply of weapons: machetes, Uzis, revolvers, shotguns, sniper rifles, Molotov cocktails, you name it. Even baseball bats. Especially baseball bats.

O.K. first hops a plane from LAX to New York to reach the Long Island home of the CEO of the company (Take This) that made the murder simulator on which his son's killer trained. O.K. gets "justice" by taking out this female CEO, whose name is Paula Eibel, along with her husband and kids. "An eye for an eye," says O.K., as he urinates onto the severed brain stems of the Eibel family victims, just as you do on the decapitated cops in the real video game Postal2.

O.K. then works his way, methodically back to LA by car, but on his way makes a stop at the Philadelphia law firm of Blank, Stare and goes floor by floor to wipe out the lawyers who protect Take This in its wrongful death law suits. "So sue me" O.K. spits, with singer Jackson Brown's 1980's hit Lawyers in Love blaring.

With the FBI now after him, O.K. keeps moving westward, shooting up high-tech video arcades called GameWerks. "Game over," O.K. laughs.

Of course, O.K. makes the obligatory runs to virtual versions of brick and mortar retailers Best Buy, Circuit City, Target, and Wal-Mart to steal supplies and bludgeon store managers and cash register clerks. "You should have checked kids' IDs!"

O.K. pushes on to Los Angeles. He must get there by May 10, 2006. That is the beginning of "E3" -- the Electronic Entertainment Expo -- the Super Bowl of the video game industry. O.K. must get to E3 to massacre all the video game industry execs with one final, monstrously delicious rampage.

How about it, video game industry? I've got the check and you've got the tech. It's all a fantasy, right? No harm can come from such a game, right? Go ahead, video game moguls. Target yourselves as you target others. I dare you.

Jack Thompson is a Miami lawyer who has for 18 years been involved in efforts to stop the marketing of adult entertainment to minors.

It is unlikely that Thompson's proposal will actually be turned into a game, as most videogame companies do not simply accept proposals from individuals. We'll keep you updated, however, as it is very likely that there will be some sort of response to Thompson's proposal from members of the videogame industry.

10K to a charity to make a game that will cost a few million dollars to produce, market and manifacture seems pretty weak

Jack Thompson
You may have seen Jack’s proposal mentioned on various news sites. He’s offering 10 grand to charity if a game developer makes a game based on his insane proposal.

So I got his email address and I went ahead and sent Jack a note this morning:

10 grand is pretty weak man. Through our charity www.childsplaycharity.org gamers have given over half a million dollars in toys and cash to children’s hospitals all over the country.

I’ll let you know if he responds.

The fact is when we kick off Child’s Play 2005 on November 1st we’ll be going global. We’ll be delivering videogames and toys to children’s hospitals all over the world now. I don’t think there’s any better response to Jack’s insane ramblings than that. Maybe Jack would like to donate his 10 grand to Child’s Play, that could buy a lot of Game Boys.

-Gabe out

and besides:

Nuff' said

[Cid Highwind]

What's left to discuss?

My parents used to teach me that it isn't nice to mock people who are not as intelligent as the average, but for Jack I'll gladly make an exception

*cid points at signature*

[MaZa]

Again CTRL+ALT+DEL manages to hit the nail.

[ArchIBaLD]

Somehow I think archiblad will agree with him on that even if everyone else including me think this douche bag is just about completely lost it

no i wont. a member in the debate showed some qoutes from the qoran and explaned it's true meaning. jack thompson is a moron for even comparing between the two subjects which he knows nothing about.. and yes.. he completly lost it ^_^

i saw the comic early today and it cracked me up sodomizes girrafs

[Viper_Viper]

Originally Posted by MaZa

Again CTRL+ALT+DEL manages to hit the nail.

Well what about this one from awhile ago...

[MaZa]

Originally Posted by Viper_Viper

Well what about this one from awhile ago...

Thats the another one.

[Eface]

There are various degrees of sad... I wonder what jack will think when he dies...

[Mako Eyes]

Here's a few examples of his maturity level:

http://callingjackthompson.ytmnd.com/

http://sealthompson.ytmnd.com/

The man really needs to grow up. End of story.

I've discussed enough on the matter in other threads/forums, so I guess that's all I'll say

[Viper_Viper]

Originally Posted by Mako Eyes

Here's a few examples of his maturity level:

http://callingjackthompson.ytmnd.com/

http://sealthompson.ytmnd.com/

The man really needs to grow up. End of story.

I've discussed enough on the matter in other threads/forums, so I guess that's all I'll say

LOL, whow, that made me crack up. The calling one is so freekin funny. It sounded like a two year old having a sisyfit.

[_E_]

Why are guys mad? I find the whole ordeal funny. He enjoys making a fool out of himself, so let him be. I loved that "Boy shoots father because of videogames" .If there is anything which best describes him, it would be this comic : http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=158

PS : btw, the qura'n refers to jews and christians as "people of the book" not "infidels". Guess he can't get his facts right in any subject

Yours,
-Elly

[Player-X]

So maybe if I said that there is no god on US tv he will try to have me taken off the air using lawsuits

[Katsuya]

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Jack Thompson has been blasted by America's National Institute on Media and the Family for claiming to have its support - despite the fact that like Thompson, the institute is a vocal critic of games such as Manhunt and 25 to Life for their violent content.

The institute's founder, Dr David Walsh, wrote an open letter to Thompson, a copy of which was obtained by US website Game Politics. The letter was also sent to the likes of senator Hillary Clinton, Bill Gates and Doug Lowenstein of the ESA - the same Doug Lowenstein whom Thompson has previously compared to Hitler.

It begins with Dr Walsh explaining that he established the institute ten years ago "to engage in research and education about the effects of media on children's health and development." Walsh writes that one of the areas of most concern to the institue is the effects of violent media.

"I know that you share that common concern and I am well aware that you have frequently cited me and our organisation as a source of scientific information," Walsh continues.

"However, over the past few months, I and members of my board have a growing concern that your use of our name, without our permission, has had a negative influence as we try to educate the public on this important issue.

"Your commentary has included extreme hyperbole and your tactics have included personally attacking individuals for whom I have a great deal of respect... Some of the people that you have publicly criticised are not only people of integrity, but are people who have worked to improve the lives of children."

Walsh goes on to note that Thompson has been using his name in correspondence even though they have no formal relationship, creating the impression "That we condone these tactics. We do not.

"The result is that our position and reputation as a research based, non-partisan, solution-focused organisation has been jeopardised.

"Consequently, I ask that you cease using the institute's or my name in any way that would give the impression that we support your efforts." Walsh also requests that Thompson remove the link to the institute's website from his own site.

Walsh's letter comes just days after Thompson issued an open letter to the videogames industry in which he outlined his idea for a game where the CEO of fictional company Take This, Paula Eibel, is murdered along with her husband and children. Should any developer agree to make the game, Thompson will donate $10,000 to the charity of choice of Paul Eibeler, the CEO of Take Two.

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[DB7]

The sad thing is his idea to keep adult entertainment out of the hands of children is a good one. If he would actually focus his energy on getting businesses to follow the ratings on games he might actually get somewhere.

this mad crusade he is on just makes him look a fool.

[Player-X]

Unfortunately other fools in prositions of power look at him as a sane man, this raises the question of who is the greater fool? the fool or the fools who follow him?

[Kirby]

lol.....people should start laughing at this guy instead of getting mad:

Fact: Jack Thompson is just some "ordinary" lawyer living down in Florida
Fact: Jack Thompson is an idiot
Fact: Jack Thompson has no political leverage.....no one supports him, not even the America's National Institute on Media and the Family
Fact: One person cannot change the entire US media system
Myth: Jack Thompson completed law school

Whoever gave that guy his degree...that professor better be retired or dead

[Player-X]

Jack Thompson is blasted by pro-family group


National Institute on Media and the Family distances itself from vociferous lawyer