Toms Hardware

**Kane** · April 15th, 2005

Goddamn! I just spotted this on another forum I frequent. I had no idea Tom's Hardware had such an Intel Bias:

Intel Developer Forum Spring 2005:
From Multi-Cores To Domination

On the other hand, after two days of IDF we felt like it did not make much of a difference whether some of the announced things were on track or slightly behind. AMD currently provides the fastest PC processor, but how important is this for the average user? Is it really about performance any more?

We say it is not. Intel is not going to sell products based on sheer speed alone, but rather because of what these technologies directly enable us to do. It's simply fascinating to consider what future systems might be capable of. Eventually, the new features Intel has shown us could mean that Intel powered solutions will dominate, whether or not competitors have faster chips.

Hello? I'm sure that not long ago Tom's Hardware was saying that the P4 overpriced edition was faster than AMD's offering, flying in the face of evidence presented by basicaly everyone else. Now speed doesn't matter and features do? Like the x64 extensions and on die memory controllet the Athlon 64 and Opterons have ben touting for ages?
I digress. I always thought that I could rely on Tom's hardware for a vague indicator of system performance from various components. Now I see it's all 'bout the money.
*sighs* Anyone know some good less biased review sites out there?

Eface · April 15th, 2005

do you know any site that ISN'T biased?

Anway, I like intel bashing

D.D. · April 15th, 2005

nvnews is definitely not biased

...

neither is rage3d btw ....

XD

seriously, i think that in order to get a good picture of a product, you just gotta read several reviews from several different sites.

Boltzmann · April 15th, 2005

Hardware manufacturers bully and bribe review sites to get positive ratings.
Some time ago, a Brazilian hardware site (Clube do Hardware) got into trouble with Asus. Asus refused to send any MOBO for testing and reviewing, unless they were guaranteed to get positive reviews (talk about unbiased reviews

).

The tactics employed by the big corporations are disgusting, to say the least.

As for the question asked, I used to like Anandtech’s reviews. Don’t know what is their current level of bias, though.

**Demigod** · April 15th, 2005

I've always liked Tom's Hardware Guide. People have been saying they're biased towards Intel for years (and maybe they are so to a degree) but every site is biased to some degree. What I like about them is that they're actually critical of AMD, unlike every other hardware site in the world who kiss AMD's butt and praise everything they make, just because they're the underdog

. Anandtech is good as well, although I don't visit it as frequently as THG.

**cooliscool** · April 15th, 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demigod

I've always liked Tom's Hardware Guide. People have been saying they're biased towards Intel for years (and maybe they are so to a degree) but every site is biased to some degree. What I like about them is that they're actually critical of AMD, unlike every other hardware site in the world who kiss AMD's butt and praise everything they make, just because they're the underdog

. Anandtech is good as well, although I don't visit it as frequently as THG.

Agreed.

Boltzmann · April 15th, 2005

AMD pwnz j00!!

**Razor Blade** · April 15th, 2005

I think the only non biased reviews I read is from Maximum PC ... But you actually have to buy one.

April 15th, 2005	#1 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Toms Hardware Goddamn! I just spotted this on another forum I frequent. I had no idea Tom's Hardware had such an Intel Bias: Intel Developer Forum Spring 2005: From Multi-Cores To Domination On the other hand, after two days of IDF we felt like it did not make much of a difference whether some of the announced things were on track or slightly behind. AMD currently provides the fastest PC processor, but how important is this for the average user? Is it really about performance any more? We say it is not. Intel is not going to sell products based on sheer speed alone, but rather because of what these technologies directly enable us to do. It's simply fascinating to consider what future systems might be capable of. Eventually, the new features Intel has shown us could mean that Intel powered solutions will dominate, whether or not competitors have faster chips. Hello? I'm sure that not long ago Tom's Hardware was saying that the P4 overpriced edition was faster than AMD's offering, flying in the face of evidence presented by basicaly everyone else. Now speed doesn't matter and features do? Like the x64 extensions and on die memory controllet the Athlon 64 and Opterons have ben touting for ages? I digress. I always thought that I could rely on Tom's hardware for a vague indicator of system performance from various components. Now I see it's all 'bout the money. sighs Anyone know some good less biased review sites out there? __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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Boltzmann Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: São Paulo - Brazil Posts: 7,649	Hardware manufacturers bully and bribe review sites to get positive ratings. Some time ago, a Brazilian hardware site (Clube do Hardware) got into trouble with Asus. Asus refused to send any MOBO for testing and reviewing, unless they were guaranteed to get positive reviews (talk about unbiased reviews ). The tactics employed by the big corporations are disgusting, to say the least. As for the question asked, I used to like Anandtech’s reviews. Don’t know what is their current level of bias, though. __________________ "The Improved Man will be a king over you. And give women their dowries as appointed." - Anders Sandberg The Hell Law says that Hell is reserved exclusively for them that believe in it. Further, the lowest Rung in Hell is reserved for them that believe in it on the supposition that they'll go there if they don't. - HBT; The Gospel According to Fred, 3:1 - The Principia Discordia

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Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	I've always liked Tom's Hardware Guide. People have been saying they're biased towards Intel for years (and maybe they are so to a degree) but every site is biased to some degree. What I like about them is that they're actually critical of AMD, unlike every other hardware site in the world who kiss AMD's butt and praise everything they make, just because they're the underdog. Anandtech is good as well, although I don't visit it as frequently as THG. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

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Boltzmann Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: São Paulo - Brazil Posts: 7,649	AMD pwnz j00!! __________________ "The Improved Man will be a king over you. And give women their dowries as appointed." - Anders Sandberg The Hell Law says that Hell is reserved exclusively for them that believe in it. Further, the lowest Rung in Hell is reserved for them that believe in it on the supposition that they'll go there if they don't. - HBT; The Gospel According to Fred, 3:1 - The Principia Discordia

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