Legal Music Downloads?

Raiden01 · January 10th, 2005

i dont like legal music downloads becuase they dont give u the option of quality e.g. its always at 128kbps which i think is poor sounding and i think for the amount they charge they should have at least a quality choice i would like to see 192kbps option and even if you want the uncompressed version.

The Captain · January 10th, 2005

I feel the same way, which is why I usually don't download music in the first place. 128kbps is just not enough. Most songs encoded in 128kbps either have annoying clicks/pops or the drums in the background have a wishy-washy sound to them.

One of my friends pointed me to a Russian pay site where you could specify the bitrate for the song you were buying, but I lost the link.

cloudvii · January 10th, 2005

I don't know what's your problem with 128 kbps music ? 128 is ok for me , very good . But yes I know they are bad compared to 192 and above ones .

The Captain · January 10th, 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by cloudvii

I don't know what's your problem with 128 kbps music ? 128 is ok for me , very good . But yes I know they are bad compared to 192 and above ones .

I'm just very picky when it comes to audio... <looks at his 5.1 system

>

cloudvii · January 10th, 2005

/me throws his headphone away . Maybe that's why

Cid Highwind · January 10th, 2005

You'll need a very good encoder to let 128 sound nice... I don't have a 5.1 system, but with almost every 128 I can hear it's mp3, except from the ones I make myself. I prefer 192 as well

And I'm picky when it comes to music quality as well, got a well trained ear when it comes down to stuff like that

**Kane** · January 10th, 2005

96 sound like it's underwater
128 sounds like it's coming from behind cardboard
VBR~192 sound acceptable.

**Kirby** · January 10th, 2005

128kbps music has more echoing effects during the high pitched parts of a song.

wtf are you doing paying for "legal" music anyways.....fight the system!!

Quite ironic how you do the thing the RIAA wants you to do, yet they still screw you over

oh....topic moved

**hushypushy** · January 10th, 2005

just buy the CD. then you can encode it into whatever the hell you want. that's what i do.

BoA · January 10th, 2005

Quote:

just buy the CD. then you can encode it into whatever the hell you want. that's what i do.

Same here, only 320kbps rips, really hard to find music I like without looking around the net, though.

dukenukem · January 11th, 2005

128kb mp3's sound fine to me,although i occasionally download the 192kb ones.

**Razor Blade** · January 11th, 2005

I just listen to Winamp adio most of the time ^^ Other than that I won't buy the CD unless I like at least half the songs. And most artists these days only have a few good songs I like (3 at most) I'm not forking out $150.00 for a few songs

Just download the music, or pay 0.99 per song and get **** quality.

andré · January 11th, 2005

i think i can discern between 192 and 128 quality, but 128 is sufficient for me. cant go any lower though

**mikeshoup** · January 11th, 2005

I usually buy CDs then rip them in a lossless format that is still compressed, like FLAC. I can't stand lossy compressed audio.

Blade556 · January 11th, 2005

Isn't there a decompressor for this kind of thing? I don't know for sure, but don't programs that rip the music compress and remove quality?

It's the same for downloading pirated movies, people compress the files and they lose quality. But you can use special plugins with an MPEG encoder called VirtualDub to remove the compression, getting a full quality movie, uncompressed and as good quality as it was made from.

Of course, then there's the problem of FINDING the plugin. I can't seem to find it, but I know it exists, so anyone who does know please redirect me.

om3gablue · January 11th, 2005

I can't listen to anything less than 192. It just sounds more alive. And it's clear. I can barely stand a 128 ogg, but def. not mp3. As far as 320 goes, all I can hear is that it's just a lil bit louder.

**cooliscool** · January 11th, 2005

www.allofmp3.com

Love that site.. you can encode up to 320KBps and they have even the rarest music.

Raiden01 · January 11th, 2005

i mean in genral legal music downloads. i mean apples mp4 format is poo it sound realy bad at 128kbps and that all they do the music on in itunes..

The Captain · January 11th, 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade556

Isn't there a decompressor for this kind of thing? I don't know for sure, but don't programs that rip the music compress and remove quality?

It's the same for downloading pirated movies, people compress the files and they lose quality. But you can use special plugins with an MPEG encoder called VirtualDub to remove the compression, getting a full quality movie, uncompressed and as good quality as it was made from.

Of course, then there's the problem of FINDING the plugin. I can't seem to find it, but I know it exists, so anyone who does know please redirect me.

Umm, I don't think you can decompress most types, such as mp3. In the encoding process, you actually lose data. For example, the encoding program uses the bitrate assigned to it to accurately similate the original file as close as possible. The music/movie file itself doesn't get compressed.

To think of it in another way, movie and music players such as winamp and wmp decompress the audio/video into a playable form on the fly when you play them.

Raiden01 · January 11th, 2005

hey that site someone just submited is it good and legal and not a credit card fraud website.. has anyone used it

January 10th, 2005	#1 (permalink)
Raiden01 RaZoR (The Manic Cow!) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 788	Legal Music Downloads? i dont like legal music downloads becuase they dont give u the option of quality e.g. its always at 128kbps which i think is poor sounding and i think for the amount they charge they should have at least a quality choice i would like to see 192kbps option and even if you want the uncompressed version. __________________ What is real? How do you define real?, if real is what we touch, feel then reall is nothing but electrical signals interprited by your brain. PC SPEC Gigabyte 8IK1100 motherboard:mg: NEW ABIT IC7-G 2X 512MB PC3200LLPT CORSAIR RAM Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHZ Processor with HT Seagate SATA 120GB Hard drive, Maxtor IDE 120GB hard drive Creative Nvidia Geforce FX 5900 Ultra Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2 Platinum Pro CDRW 52X24X52X DVD ROM 16x 550 WATT antec PSU

January 10th, 2005	#2 (permalink)
The Captain Crono! Wake up! Join Date: May 2002 Location: cyberspace Posts: 1,446	I feel the same way, which is why I usually don't download music in the first place. 128kbps is just not enough. Most songs encoded in 128kbps either have annoying clicks/pops or the drums in the background have a wishy-washy sound to them. One of my friends pointed me to a Russian pay site where you could specify the bitrate for the song you were buying, but I lost the link. __________________ DFI LT X38 mobo, E8400 OC @ 4ghz, 4gb G.Skill DDR2 1066mhz, 8800GTS 320mb (G80), 2 x 150gb WD Raptors in RAID 0, 2 x 320gb media/backup drives, NB & CPU DangerDen waterblocks, BlackIce GTX 360 radiator

January 10th, 2005	#3 (permalink)
cloudvii Emunext fanboy Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cairo , Egypt Posts: 4,243	I don't know what's your problem with 128 kbps music ? 128 is ok for me , very good . But yes I know they are bad compared to 192 and above ones . __________________ Fekra Online magazine Fekra Magazine Fekra Magazine readers Facebook group

January 10th, 2005	#5 (permalink)
cloudvii Emunext fanboy Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cairo , Egypt Posts: 4,243	/me throws his headphone away . Maybe that's why __________________ Fekra Online magazine Fekra Magazine Fekra Magazine readers Facebook group

January 10th, 2005	#6 (permalink)
Cid Highwind Ramma Gay Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Somwhere out in space? The Land of the Free? Heaven or Hell? Posts: 11,548	You'll need a very good encoder to let 128 sound nice... I don't have a 5.1 system, but with almost every 128 I can hear it's mp3, except from the ones I make myself. I prefer 192 as well And I'm picky when it comes to music quality as well, got a well trained ear when it comes down to stuff like that __________________ PC Specs: CPU: Intel E4400 @ 2.66GHz GPU: ATi HD4870 / 512MB / Core: 775 / Mem: 1025 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 (rev 2.1) SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music RAM: 2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR800 @ 4-4-4-12 ~ 800MHz HDD: 320GB Western Digital 16MB Caviar SE PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W Geometry Wars: 198.400 Lumines: 523.879 Rip: Cid's Bleemcast 28-08-2007 X360/Wii/PS3 belong to the current generation, update your mindset FFS

January 10th, 2005	#7 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	96 sound like it's underwater 128 sounds like it's coming from behind cardboard VBR~192 sound acceptable. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

January 10th, 2005	#8 (permalink)
Kirby I want you INSIDE me Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,382	128kbps music has more echoing effects during the high pitched parts of a song. wtf are you doing paying for "legal" music anyways.....fight the system!! Quite ironic how you do the thing the RIAA wants you to do, yet they still screw you over oh....topic moved __________________ Kirby's AnimeDB list AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ Toledo, Nvidia GeForce 7950GT SLi, 2GB PC3200 2-3-2-5, ABit AN8-SLi, Sound Blaster X-FI XtremeMusic

January 10th, 2005	#9 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,837	just buy the CD. then you can encode it into whatever the hell you want. that's what i do. __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994. 2008 "How Not to Post" guide

January 11th, 2005	#11 (permalink)
dukenukem Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: tucson Posts: 1,764	128kb mp3's sound fine to me,although i occasionally download the 192kb ones. __________________ new pc=pentiumd 820 dualcore,250gb sata hdd,intel gma 950,19 inch lcd,lexmark printer,8in1 media card reader.

January 11th, 2005	#12 (permalink)
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,024	I just listen to Winamp adio most of the time ^^ Other than that I won't buy the CD unless I like at least half the songs. And most artists these days only have a few good songs I like (3 at most) I'm not forking out $150.00 for a few songs Just download the music, or pay 0.99 per song and get **** quality. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

January 11th, 2005	#13 (permalink)
andré sakabatou_x Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: TEXAS (everything's bigger) Posts: 1,256	i think i can discern between 192 and 128 quality, but 128 is sufficient for me. cant go any lower though __________________ andré:.thrasher10:.sakabatou_x:. emulator:epsxe:.os:xp_pro:.processor:amd_athlonxp_3000+:.mobo:epox_8rda3+:. gfx_card:radeon9800pro_256mb_ddr:.ram:1.5gb_ddr:.pad:super_dual_box_2p_usb_adapter:.

January 11th, 2005	#14 (permalink)
mikeshoup Emu author Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Englewood, CO, USA Posts: 292	I usually buy CDs then rip them in a lossless format that is still compressed, like FLAC. I can't stand lossy compressed audio. __________________ Awards stink like poo.

January 11th, 2005	#15 (permalink)
Blade556 Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Barrie Posts: 118	Isn't there a decompressor for this kind of thing? I don't know for sure, but don't programs that rip the music compress and remove quality? It's the same for downloading pirated movies, people compress the files and they lose quality. But you can use special plugins with an MPEG encoder called VirtualDub to remove the compression, getting a full quality movie, uncompressed and as good quality as it was made from. Of course, then there's the problem of FINDING the plugin. I can't seem to find it, but I know it exists, so anyone who does know please redirect me.

January 11th, 2005	#16 (permalink)
om3gablue Taken... Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Orleans Posts: 183	I can't listen to anything less than 192. It just sounds more alive. And it's clear. I can barely stand a 128 ogg, but def. not mp3. As far as 320 goes, all I can hear is that it's just a lil bit louder. __________________ I walk a lonely road, the only one I've ever known don't know where it goes but it's home to me and I walk alone.(My blog)

January 11th, 2005	#17 (permalink)
cooliscool Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hyda IV Posts: 6,063	www.allofmp3.com Love that site.. you can encode up to 320KBps and they have even the rarest music. __________________ Fayt: Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8GHz @ 3.0GHz [Allendale] (1333MHz FSB), 2GB Crucial DDR2-800 Dual Channel kit @ 800MHz 4-3-3-10, 512MB BFG nVidia GeForce 7950GT OC (650/1600), Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS, MSI P6N-SLi nVidia 650i mobo, 200GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2 (NCQ), 80GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2 (NCQ), Lite-On DVD+-RW 16x w/ Lightscribe, Lite-On 16X DVD-ROM, Aspire X-Dreamer II case, Logitech MX518 GG Optical Mouse, Asetek Waterchill kit (distilled water + Red Line Watter Wetter), T.I.M - Arctic Silver Ceramique

January 11th, 2005	#18 (permalink)
Raiden01 RaZoR (The Manic Cow!) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 788	i mean in genral legal music downloads. i mean apples mp4 format is poo it sound realy bad at 128kbps and that all they do the music on in itunes.. __________________ What is real? How do you define real?, if real is what we touch, feel then reall is nothing but electrical signals interprited by your brain. PC SPEC Gigabyte 8IK1100 motherboard:mg: NEW ABIT IC7-G 2X 512MB PC3200LLPT CORSAIR RAM Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHZ Processor with HT Seagate SATA 120GB Hard drive, Maxtor IDE 120GB hard drive Creative Nvidia Geforce FX 5900 Ultra Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2 Platinum Pro CDRW 52X24X52X DVD ROM 16x 550 WATT antec PSU

January 11th, 2005	#20 (permalink)
Raiden01 RaZoR (The Manic Cow!) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 788	hey that site someone just submited is it good and legal and not a credit card fraud website.. has anyone used it __________________ What is real? How do you define real?, if real is what we touch, feel then reall is nothing but electrical signals interprited by your brain. PC SPEC Gigabyte 8IK1100 motherboard:mg: NEW ABIT IC7-G 2X 512MB PC3200LLPT CORSAIR RAM Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHZ Processor with HT Seagate SATA 120GB Hard drive, Maxtor IDE 120GB hard drive Creative Nvidia Geforce FX 5900 Ultra Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2 Platinum Pro CDRW 52X24X52X DVD ROM 16x 550 WATT antec PSU

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode