Iraq is a "chaotic success"

**Ryos** · August 30th, 2004

I heard on NBC news tonight that President Bush, within the last week, called Iraq a "chaotic success." Does anyone know when/how he said this? All I know is I heard the phrase and it sounds kind of odd out of context, so maybe it makes more sense in context. I've been searching for it, but nothing to this effect seems to be out there.

Unicron · August 30th, 2004

maybe this is what you were thinking of...its not nbc but it seems similar.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130502,00.html

Player-X · August 30th, 2004

Quote:

"I want to remind you that Saddam Hussein (search) had the capability of making weapons of mass destruction, and he could have passed that capability on,"

So could every other country ion earth

**Ryos** · August 30th, 2004

Ah, I guess it was even more recent than I thought. Thanks for finding it, Unicron. I'm going to have to look in Time magazine and see exactly what he had to say though - such wording is peculiar.

RZetlin · August 30th, 2004

Does anybody have a video of Bush saying this?

I want to add this to my "Bushism" collection.

**Rand Linden** · August 30th, 2004

Bush called the whole Iraq thing a "catastrophic success."

No one is really sure what that means -- although most people have probably heard of a "catastrophic failure", as that was used to describe the shuttle tile reentry disaster.

In other news, the chocolate rations will be halved today -- doubleplus good.

Rand.

hellmasterx · August 30th, 2004

i agree in the chaotic part.

Boltzmann · August 30th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand Linden

Bush called the whole Iraq thing a "catastrophic success."

No one is really sure what that means -- although most people have probably heard of a "catastrophic failure", as that was used to describe the shuttle tile reentry disaster.

In other news, the chocolate rations will be halved today -- doubleplus good.

Rand.

Well said, Rand. It seems that Bush is fluent in doublespeak

Doublething, comrade, doublethink

(And I think that both "catastrophic success" and "chaotic success" are good examples of applied doublethink

)

**Rand Linden** · August 30th, 2004

I was wondering if anyone would get the reference... ;-)

More good news, the latest revisions to the dictionary should be ready shortly... doubleplus good!

Rand.

Unicron · August 30th, 2004

it may be the 12 years I've lived in the south of USA speaking but I dont think it such a terrible play on words...and I get made fun of for being too well spoken.

I liken the phrase to the British commander talking after the battle of "Bunker Hill" (American Rev. War) saying that if they win too many more battles like that, that they'll lose the war...although we didnt lose this (Iraq) war...

Seta-San · August 30th, 2004

i think you just need to be american to understand. (W00t on you KiNOBauDA)

Gamer1 · August 31st, 2004

well, bush did meet his goal of getting rid of suddam. so that makes it a success.

he just failed to stablize the region... thus chaos. which only happened because everyone was playing politics, including bush, as the job was done half @-$-$-ed.

Carnage · August 31st, 2004

Bush his way of making ppl agree in some point or not to admit he is wrong:say something that totally confuses the ppl so they dont even get what your saying to make it sound very very very intellectual to the more stupid ppl and to get the "whateeever" reaction from the others.

GALVATRON · September 1st, 2004

Maybe Bush meant to say that Iraq is "successfully catastrophic."

Mission accomplished.

Sir_Malak · September 2nd, 2004

When he said "The war on terrorism cannot be won" he said that without prompts etc.. When he said "We can win the war on terrorism" he had prompts etc.. and was told what to say.. So as far as I am concerned he knows truly deep inside he has no clue what he's doing.

Radix865 · September 2nd, 2004

hmm... Chaotic or catastrophic success is right in one thing... They did take down the Hussein and bring "democracy" to Irak, but they also brought Irak into civil war... And Irak also is becoming a funding problem to US economy... So it is chaotic success... Oh, just to make sure, I'm against Bush...

August 30th, 2004	#1 (permalink)
Ryos Revenger of Vengeance Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,250	Iraq is a "chaotic success" I heard on NBC news tonight that President Bush, within the last week, called Iraq a "chaotic success." Does anyone know when/how he said this? All I know is I heard the phrase and it sounds kind of odd out of context, so maybe it makes more sense in context. I've been searching for it, but nothing to this effect seems to be out there. __________________ Sanity is overrated.

August 30th, 2004	#2 (permalink)
Unicron Git er done Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC USA GO us! Posts: 2,828	maybe this is what you were thinking of...its not nbc but it seems similar. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130502,00.html __________________ It is the soldier, not the court, that has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protestor the freedom he abuses to burn that flag. -Senator Zell Miller

August 30th, 2004	#4 (permalink)
Ryos Revenger of Vengeance Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,250	Ah, I guess it was even more recent than I thought. Thanks for finding it, Unicron. I'm going to have to look in Time magazine and see exactly what he had to say though - such wording is peculiar. __________________ Sanity is overrated.

August 30th, 2004	#5 (permalink)
RZetlin General of Tangerines Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Defending the Sea Posts: 3,885	Does anybody have a video of Bush saying this? I want to add this to my "Bushism" collection. __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3700+ \| 2 GB RAM \| XFX Nvidia 6800 GS 256 MB XXX Edition \| Win XP Pro SP2

August 30th, 2004	#7 (permalink)
hellmasterx He's watching you. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: RD Posts: 1,222	i agree in the chaotic part. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Boom Boom Dollar!!!!!! pushing all the buttons!!!

August 30th, 2004	#6 (permalink)
Rand Linden Emu author Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 70	Bush called the whole Iraq thing a "catastrophic success." No one is really sure what that means -- although most people have probably heard of a "catastrophic failure", as that was used to describe the shuttle tile reentry disaster. In other news, the chocolate rations will be halved today -- doubleplus good. Rand.

August 30th, 2004	#9 (permalink)
Rand Linden Emu author Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 70	I was wondering if anyone would get the reference... ;-) More good news, the latest revisions to the dictionary should be ready shortly... doubleplus good! Rand.

August 30th, 2004	#10 (permalink)
Unicron Git er done Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC USA GO us! Posts: 2,828	it may be the 12 years I've lived in the south of USA speaking but I dont think it such a terrible play on words...and I get made fun of for being too well spoken. I liken the phrase to the British commander talking after the battle of "Bunker Hill" (American Rev. War) saying that if they win too many more battles like that, that they'll lose the war...although we didnt lose this (Iraq) war... __________________ It is the soldier, not the court, that has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protestor the freedom he abuses to burn that flag. -Senator Zell Miller

August 30th, 2004	#11 (permalink)
Seta-San PCSX2ベータテスター Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,393	i think you just need to be american to understand. (W00t on you KiNOBauDA) __________________

August 31st, 2004	#12 (permalink)
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,237	well, bush did meet his goal of getting rid of suddam. so that makes it a success. he just failed to stablize the region... thus chaos. which only happened because everyone was playing politics, including bush, as the job was done half @-$-$-ed. __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

August 31st, 2004	#13 (permalink)
Carnage Illusion's play Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In a world of lies Posts: 3,703	Bush his way of making ppl agree in some point or not to admit he is wrong:say something that totally confuses the ppl so they dont even get what your saying to make it sound very very very intellectual to the more stupid ppl and to get the "whateeever" reaction from the others. __________________ Member of the " Pessimists Club " Visit my personal Doom project (music,not the game) at Lament Of Suffering

September 1st, 2004	#14 (permalink)
GALVATRON evil alien robot Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Decepticon HQ, Planet Cybertron Posts: 481	Maybe Bush meant to say that Iraq is "successfully catastrophic." Mission accomplished. __________________ .

September 2nd, 2004	#15 (permalink)
Sir_Malak Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Japan Posts: 12	When he said "The war on terrorism cannot be won" he said that without prompts etc.. When he said "We can win the war on terrorism" he had prompts etc.. and was told what to say.. So as far as I am concerned he knows truly deep inside he has no clue what he's doing.

September 2nd, 2004	#16 (permalink)
Radix865 Anger leads to sadness... Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Finland, just below arctic circle. Posts: 1,885	hmm... Chaotic or catastrophic success is right in one thing... They did take down the Hussein and bring "democracy" to Irak, but they also brought Irak into civil war... And Irak also is becoming a funding problem to US economy... So it is chaotic success... Oh, just to make sure, I'm against Bush... __________________

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