Virtual CD Burning

Jldnr77 · April 17th, 2004

Are there any software programs that have "virtual" cd burners?

For instance...I tell a program to burn a cd to this virtual drive, and the drive virtually burns it, but instead creates an iso image on my harddrive?

A feature like this would be really helpful.

And no, I'm not trying to copy cd's, I want a program that can trick programs that have nothing to do with copying cd's into burning a virtual cd.

Basically, just so I don't have to actually use a blank cd, and then create an image again...why waste a perfectly good disc? (even though they are cheap as hell...)

Crap...thought I put this in the software forum...move it if you want too....

DeathPenalty · April 17th, 2004

Nero can do an image of a compilation insted of burning it to a cd, just select IMAGE RECORDER instead of your cd-burner.
Nero only makes images in .ngr format but you can convert it in another format eg. .iso with isobuster or with a different program.

-DeathPenalty

Vanit · April 17th, 2004

I think someone has been screwing with your terminology or has roughly explained it to you. First of all whats the difference between using a program that intentionally copies and one that doesn't if both end up with the same thing? Theres nothing wrong with copying discs, its when you start selling the copies legal issues come up. For creating isos I recommends CDRwin, IsoBuster, WinISO, CloneCD and UltraISO.

Jldnr77 · April 17th, 2004

I'm not trying to create copies. I'm not needing to use a cd copying program.

I want to know if there is a virtual cd burning program that can trick a regular program that has nothing to do with copying into creating an iso file on the harddrive instead of actually burning a physical cd.

For example:

I tell a music program (such as iTunes) to burn an audio cd. When the process is done, rather than having a burnt cd, I would have an iso image on my harddrive.

So as you can see, I want this capability for programs that cannot naturally create iso images. An in the case of iTunes, the iso image and the original file would be totally different, because the original data is music tracks in aac format, and the ending data is music tracks in wav format...so NO, I wouldn't necessarily be ending up with exactly the same thing.

Thanks for the advice about Nero, Death Penalty, but I'm looking for this for programs that don't have imaging abilities.

Mad · April 17th, 2004

such thing doesnt exist....

SnakeBite · April 20th, 2004

so... what you actually mean is that you want to burn into a virtual cd-drive, which creates an iso file?

orysyz · April 20th, 2004

Virtual CDrw drives. Hmmm this is similiar to makin an image.

SnakeBite · April 20th, 2004

not if you don't have a cd, and want to make a cd image instead, and burn it later.

**hushypushy** · April 21st, 2004

Quote:

I tell a music program (such as iTunes) to burn an audio cd. When the process is done, rather than having a burnt cd, I would have an iso image on my harddrive.

use Nero. select "image burner". when you burn, it asks you to save it somewhere. it burns your image to an ISO. that's how i burnt a 3 GB "mini-DVD"

Vanit · April 21st, 2004

I understand what you want now and its a very hard problem to answer. Infact I'm not exactly sure how you could do that with out stripping it down to assembly code or rewriting it. Tell us what you want a program to do and I can tell you one that can. Thats the easy way out, now here is my understanding of what you want to do:

You are looking for a program that can set up a 'virtual cdrw drive' (from here on vcd), in a similar fashion to a normal vcd, except that it has writing capabilities so if the data on the vcd is changed, so will the preloaded iso. Basically when you would select your burner in the program you can select the vcd and the burner will think that its writing to a disc but infact it will be sending the data to the vcd and the vcd will save that to an iso... A very difficult process to grasp if not explained correctly. This may or may not work depending on how the program writes its cds. Its also a question of whether the vcd will take on the form of a known cdrw to the program (eg some people can't use CDRWin because the companies that made their cdrw drives didn't exist at the time).

I'll look into it and get back to you.

Jldnr77 · April 21st, 2004

Hmm...I figured this post was dead....I'm not going to bother explaining again though, cuz I really feel I've confused everyone, and someone I talked to suggestion simply using cdrw's...which is a decent suggestion, since I won't wast a cd that way...anyway...thanks for trying

bcrew1375 · April 21st, 2004

I believe I understand exactly what you are looking for. However, I have yet to find a program that does that

. You basically want something like a CD-drive emulator, except with the added ability to burn virtual CDs. I have looked for something like this as well, but haven't found anything yet.

Don't know if this does what I think it does, but give it a shot.
http://www.topshareware.com/7TOOLS-V...load-11675.htm

Quatro · April 25th, 2004

there is a program that is called Virtual CD... try that... http://www.virtualcd-online.de/default_e.htm

April 17th, 2004	#1 (permalink)
Jldnr77 Emulation Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 731	Virtual CD Burning Are there any software programs that have "virtual" cd burners? For instance...I tell a program to burn a cd to this virtual drive, and the drive virtually burns it, but instead creates an iso image on my harddrive? A feature like this would be really helpful. And no, I'm not trying to copy cd's, I want a program that can trick programs that have nothing to do with copying cd's into burning a virtual cd. Basically, just so I don't have to actually use a blank cd, and then create an image again...why waste a perfectly good disc? (even though they are cheap as hell...) Crap...thought I put this in the software forum...move it if you want too.... __________________ Current Specs: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester/ 2 GB Corsair PC3200 Ram / DVD-RW DL Light Scribe / Lite-On SOHW-832S DVD+-RW DL / 200 Gig Samsung HD / 250 Gig Maxtor HD / Nvidia GeForce 7600GT 256 MB PCI-E / Creative SoundBlaster Audigy2 ZS Bruce Almighty: How do you make someone love you without affecting free will? God: Good Question. If you find the answer to that, let me know.

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DeathPenalty ヴィンセント Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Italy - Tuscany - Florence Posts: 252	Nero can do an image of a compilation insted of burning it to a cd, just select IMAGE RECORDER instead of your cd-burner. Nero only makes images in .ngr format but you can convert it in another format eg. .iso with isobuster or with a different program. -DeathPenalty __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -= Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 \| 1GB DDR400 @ 2-2-2-5 \| ATI Radeon X1950 Pro 512Mb AGP \| Integrated 7.1 Channels Audio =- -= HDD 160GB U-ATA133 + HDD 120GB U-ATA133 \| Samsung DVD±RW 8x(DL)18x8x(+)18x6x(-) \| LG 52x24x52x GCE-8520B =-

April 17th, 2004	#3 (permalink)
Vanit Heretic Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia! Posts: 2,755	I think someone has been screwing with your terminology or has roughly explained it to you. First of all whats the difference between using a program that intentionally copies and one that doesn't if both end up with the same thing? Theres nothing wrong with copying discs, its when you start selling the copies legal issues come up. For creating isos I recommends CDRwin, IsoBuster, WinISO, CloneCD and UltraISO. __________________ Click here to download my Sin and Punishment English translation.

April 17th, 2004	#4 (permalink)
Jldnr77 Emulation Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 731	I'm not trying to create copies. I'm not needing to use a cd copying program. I want to know if there is a virtual cd burning program that can trick a regular program that has nothing to do with copying into creating an iso file on the harddrive instead of actually burning a physical cd. For example: I tell a music program (such as iTunes) to burn an audio cd. When the process is done, rather than having a burnt cd, I would have an iso image on my harddrive. So as you can see, I want this capability for programs that cannot naturally create iso images. An in the case of iTunes, the iso image and the original file would be totally different, because the original data is music tracks in aac format, and the ending data is music tracks in wav format...so NO, I wouldn't necessarily be ending up with exactly the same thing. Thanks for the advice about Nero, Death Penalty, but I'm looking for this for programs that don't have imaging abilities. __________________ Current Specs: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester/ 2 GB Corsair PC3200 Ram / DVD-RW DL Light Scribe / Lite-On SOHW-832S DVD+-RW DL / 200 Gig Samsung HD / 250 Gig Maxtor HD / Nvidia GeForce 7600GT 256 MB PCI-E / Creative SoundBlaster Audigy2 ZS Bruce Almighty: How do you make someone love you without affecting free will? God: Good Question. If you find the answer to that, let me know.

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April 20th, 2004	#6 (permalink)
SnakeBite Single Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 667	so... what you actually mean is that you want to burn into a virtual cd-drive, which creates an iso file? __________________ This is my new improved sig.

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SnakeBite Single Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 667	not if you don't have a cd, and want to make a cd image instead, and burn it later. __________________ This is my new improved sig.

April 21st, 2004	#10 (permalink)
Vanit Heretic Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia! Posts: 2,755	I understand what you want now and its a very hard problem to answer. Infact I'm not exactly sure how you could do that with out stripping it down to assembly code or rewriting it. Tell us what you want a program to do and I can tell you one that can. Thats the easy way out, now here is my understanding of what you want to do: You are looking for a program that can set up a 'virtual cdrw drive' (from here on vcd), in a similar fashion to a normal vcd, except that it has writing capabilities so if the data on the vcd is changed, so will the preloaded iso. Basically when you would select your burner in the program you can select the vcd and the burner will think that its writing to a disc but infact it will be sending the data to the vcd and the vcd will save that to an iso... A very difficult process to grasp if not explained correctly. This may or may not work depending on how the program writes its cds. Its also a question of whether the vcd will take on the form of a known cdrw to the program (eg some people can't use CDRWin because the companies that made their cdrw drives didn't exist at the time). I'll look into it and get back to you. __________________ Click here to download my Sin and Punishment English translation.

April 21st, 2004	#11 (permalink)
Jldnr77 Emulation Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 731	Hmm...I figured this post was dead....I'm not going to bother explaining again though, cuz I really feel I've confused everyone, and someone I talked to suggestion simply using cdrw's...which is a decent suggestion, since I won't wast a cd that way...anyway...thanks for trying __________________ Current Specs: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester/ 2 GB Corsair PC3200 Ram / DVD-RW DL Light Scribe / Lite-On SOHW-832S DVD+-RW DL / 200 Gig Samsung HD / 250 Gig Maxtor HD / Nvidia GeForce 7600GT 256 MB PCI-E / Creative SoundBlaster Audigy2 ZS Bruce Almighty: How do you make someone love you without affecting free will? God: Good Question. If you find the answer to that, let me know.

April 21st, 2004	#12 (permalink)
bcrew1375 "Insert witty title here" Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In a house Posts: 1,046	I believe I understand exactly what you are looking for. However, I have yet to find a program that does that . You basically want something like a CD-drive emulator, except with the added ability to burn virtual CDs. I have looked for something like this as well, but haven't found anything yet. Don't know if this does what I think it does, but give it a shot. http://www.topshareware.com/7TOOLS-V...load-11675.htm __________________ Can I go home now? Last edited by bcrew1375; April 21st, 2004 at 22:30.

April 25th, 2004	#13 (permalink)
Quatro c3rTifiEd V@mpIr3 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,295	there is a program that is called Virtual CD... try that... http://www.virtualcd-online.de/default_e.htm __________________ BE ONE OF US I JOIN THE WOLF CLAN - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

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