Hostage crisis in Iraq!

[wise_evian]

I agree, I totally sympathise with the soldiers in iraq. it is not their fault they have to go raiding etc.. its The gov'ts.

[SC_Steve]

Originally Posted by Seta-San

lets all blame bush shall we. while you're at it lets blame bush for your small penis, lack of insight, and the fact you're still a virgin. I say lets blame the U.N. If they backed the war i doubt any of this would be happening. I lost a cousin and a high school friend in iraq. I still support bush because this needs to be done. So again thanks for your lack of insite Evian.

I agree 100%

If anything... I blame the UN for not enforcing resolutions and basicly not doing their job when they should have. If they did, no one would be over in Iraq, eventhough I think the Iraqi people are better off without Saddam in power

(where are these weapons , huh )

Al Samud (sp) missiles were found... which was banned from Iraq. The main reason that Iraq was invaded was because of resolution 4114 (and countless other violated un resolutions). It took a decade to have someone finally call them on it... and they gave the same old run around.

days before the inital invasion, the coalition gave Saddam 2 options... leave and nothing would happen or your getting invaded.... Saddam chose the second option (obviously)

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[wise_evian]

With the USA as powerful as it is..UN is worthless. USA can veto anything that it doesnt seem as good to ITS cause. So in that sense i have to agree.

[Velocity 7]

Then could anyone say, "World Dictatorship"?

[wise_evian]

world dictatorship hehe

[cloudvii]

when will the three days before executing end ?
we should hope japan think of the safety of these three .

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[SC_Steve]

lol... or world democracy

I just hope everyone makes it out safe and sound and that the actions taken over there are justified. Weather it be next year or 20 years down the road

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[wise_evian]

I dont see how raiding a country with no immediate threat to that country a way to spread democracy. Call me crazy but i think that would just tick that country being raided off to the point where it doesnt want anything to do with the attacking country lol

[SC_Steve]

well... I see your point, and these people really have no sense of freedom like most do.

but, at least in my opinion, you would think that the people would be thrilled with the thought of not getting tortured because of their idea's and beliefs. Or brutally beat for (insert anything here).

Alot of people from that country only know fear and punishment to keep them civil... unfortunitly

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[wise_evian]

This is true, i just wish ALL the un resolutions that got tossed aside would be delt with hehe

[cloudvii]

wish it was that easy
btw , who told u for sure that they've found these weapons .
i mean if iraq had them they should've used them in the war , right ?

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[SC_Steve]

I wish it was easy too... I cant stand the thought of loosing friends and family (or anyone dying for the matter) over there.

but the thing about the Al Samud missiles was all over the news. Who knows why they didn't use them... but they were there (probably old). But their still long range missiles that they should have destroyed and didn't

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Ah yes democracy,...we shall spread democracy using guns and missiles around the world ,...,..and frankly those excuse for invading iraq are "lame", once its democracy, then the other time its "to free the iraqi people from saddam" and then once its because of "terrorism" or "weapons of mass destruction",..and the list goes on,..

The US marines shouldnt be there, you invade a country and kill its people with one excuse and another, then you expect people not to retaliate?

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[SC_Steve]

Originally Posted by Elly

Ah yes democracy,...we shall spread democracy using guns and missiles around the world ,...,..and frankly those excuse for invading iraq are "lame", once its democracy, then the other time its "to free the iraqi people from saddam" and then once its because of "terrorism" or "weapons of mass destruction",..and the list goes on,..

The US marines shouldnt be there, you invade a country and kill its people with one excuse and another, then you expect people not to retaliate?

Yours,
-Elly

whats lame? I don't see your point... despite what some believe, were not there for oil, were not there for democracy (well... we're helping them out with that now) nor terrorism (but I'm sure there will be some anti-terror stuff going on). We went in for one simple purpose... to remove Saddam (and we even gave him the option to just walk away from it) case closed. Now we have to help them... the Iraqi's arent enemies. Saddam, yes... the people of Iraq... no.


Like I said, if the UN was doing it's job... this should have never happened. I guess thats what happens when people sit around with thumbs up their butts for years and years (look at WW2 for example). It's a sad situation...

And since when are we there to kill people? I thought we were there to help rebuild. Of course when any armed forces get shot at their going to return fire (I know I would and I'm sure you would too).

I just hope EVERYONE makes it out safe (which isn't very realistic) *sigh*

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Originally Posted by SC_Steve

whats lame? I don't see your point... despite what some believe, were not there for oil, were not there for democracy (well... we're helping them out with that now) nor terrorism (but I'm sure there will be some anti-terror stuff going on). We went in for one simple purpose... to remove Saddam (and we even gave him the option to just walk away from it) case closed. Now we have to help them... the Iraqi's arent enemies. Saddam, yes... the people of Iraq... no.

The lame part was that they had no "given goal", its one excuse after another, and I simply doubt its only for saddam, since he was captured already.

Originally Posted by SC_Steve

Like I said, if the UN was doing it's job... this should have never happened. I guess thats what happens when people sit around with thumbs up their butts for years and years (look at WW2 for example). It's a sad situation...

Yes and No, they didnt no their part, yes but even if they did, the US doesnt obligate with them . Sadly, the US does what it wants whenever it willing to do. The UN resolutions seems no longer to include the US.

Originally Posted by SC_Steve

And since when are we there to kill people? I thought we were there to help rebuild. Of course when any armed forces get shot at their going to return fire (I know I would and I'm sure you would too).

Where is the rebuild? I am seeing the opposite happen :P Now firing on residental homes and moseques was because of "returning fire"? True, some people do ambush and attack them, but firing on civilians is un exusable no matter what the reason is.

Originally Posted by SC_Steve

I just hope EVERYONE makes it out safe (which isn't very realistic) *sigh*

Agreed,..and the presence of the american forces in iraq will make it far more un-realistic :P

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[Proto]

Uh... yeah... if we were talking about world dissarment we should start with countries like India, China, UK, Iran, North Corea and most important, in the head top, and nowadays the greatest danger for our little punny planet... US goverment

Oh wait, by definition americans are always right...ne?

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[Solid_Snake]

US -threat to the planet nah dont think so Only the President(I wont bother mentioning names to be more careful)

Depends on the Situation

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[Syed Fawad]

Originally Posted by Elly

And in this case, the people who kidnapped innocent civilians broke the second part of that rule. Again, this is what I understand from it,..please correct me if you feel I missed something out/ commited a mistake somewhere

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-Elly

You are pretty much right, but I am still confused. You can avenge your loss on equal basis, what if those who kidnapped were, too, victims.?

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[SC_Steve]

we can keep going for hours... so lets just agree to disagee

Oh wait, by definition americans are always right...ne?

way to sterio type

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[kougaiji]

they captured some asian people
but then they know these people are chinese not japanese
they release them

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