The use of the word "Gay"

AChrisRay · February 10th, 2004

Me and my friends were having a conversation. And I made a comment about how something was lame. I referred to it as "Gay" Actually. Using a Slang that I have developed over time to refer things I dislike as Gay.

During that time My lesbian Friend got extremely upset that I said that, I got about a 30 minute lecture to using it.

I then felt pretty bad about it.

I have never been conscious about using the word gay negatively However, And I have always used it. The ironic Part being. I am Bisexual (Oh that might surprise a few of you ;p), and I have never EVER thought of it the way she did, Is Using such a word negatively really that detrimental to the Homosexual Community?

Is it like saying "Damn That is Freaken Black" For Example? I have never considered them the same. But She did.

N1ghtw0lf · February 10th, 2004

eh...i dont think its bad, though most of the time i limit using the word, as i really have nothing against gays. I've never had anyone take offense to me saying it though

Proto · February 10th, 2004

Well, while some people might find the negative use of some words offensive, in my opinion its just the tip of the iceberg.... the epitome of a problem that wont be solved aby changing a few words in our vocabulary.

Its not a change in our vocabulary the most demanding problem, but a radical change of vision about our posture against minorities that have been historically rejected and considered as parias. Compared to these, some foul vocabulary becomes laughable

N1ghtw0lf · February 10th, 2004

O_o...english please...

i have no idea what the crap you just said...

Proto · February 10th, 2004

Quote:

O_o...english please...

i have no idea what the crap you just said...

....vocabulary is a secondary problem
...rejection of minorities should be of major concern

.... in a nutshell thats what i said...

N1ghtw0lf · February 10th, 2004

well your not really REJECTING minorities by calling something gay...more of like saying they are off the normal (which isn't necessarily bad)...if homosexuals take someone calling something gay as an offense, they should seriously have better things to worry about. No matter how hard you try, if your different in ANY way, someone is bound to offend you with something insignificant.

Proto · February 10th, 2004

Nonono, i just said that this kind of language usage is the reflection of the underlying problem. Even if you dont really feel it, the deep hatred of the society in general is imprinted upon you, in various degrees, being one of the minor ones the use of such vocabulary

Rhombus · February 10th, 2004

Aside from the term "homosexual" all the terms for homosexuals are insults, or have insulting connotations in and of themselves. I mean the word gay originally just meant happy. It was applied to homosexuals because of the stereotype of gays as debaucherous and just out having a merry old time - the kind of gay person that most people would call "flamingly gay". ***** is another word for homosexual - it means odd or abnormal - and it was originally meant to be very insulting towards homosexuals. For some reason, the gay community decided it liked the word and now its actually a fairly accepting non-insulting term (ex. ***** Eye for the Straight Guy).

Yeah, so "gay" was originally meant to insult homosexuals, yet it was accepted and finally adopted as simply meaning... gay. If the gay community uses a derrogation as a form of identification, do they have any right being mad at this use of the word "gay" too? Nope. If they care that much, they shouldn't call themselves gay, cause, at heart, that's an insult in and of itself.

Sir Key · February 10th, 2004

who the **** is AChrisRay???? and where the heck is ChrisRay???

Kaiser Sigma · February 10th, 2004

Some words will always be forbidden... that's the way it is, gay is one of them. Some ppl do use it negatively (in fact, I might have done so a few times) so I can understand their anger... the fun part is, some ppl don't care who use the word, their best friend could do so and they will still want your head on a pike...

Quatro · February 10th, 2004

yeah... when you say the word "gay" here in our country, they either like being called like that while others are not... mostly take it negatively. Gay people are very vocal, sometimes they are nice people to hang around with ( and they have a tonload of girl friends

) but I am irrititated by their presence, especially the ones that put on make up and other "girl" stuff if you know what I mean...

**DarkAurora** · February 10th, 2004

I'm sure they don't like your presence either...

Anyways, I don't really care that much if people use the word gay to refer to something bad because usually it has nothing to do with homosexuals. I'm more offended by the word qu-eer because it means abnormal.

the Hulk · February 10th, 2004

if you call someone gay when he is then it shouldn't be considerd as negative,however if u say without a reason it is considered negative.

Kaiser Sigma · February 10th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quatro

but I am irrititated by their presence, especially the ones that put on make up and other "girl" stuff if you know what I mean...

That makes us two

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkAurora

Anyways, I don't really care that much if people use the word gay to refer to something bad because usually it has nothing to do with homosexuals.

It's just one those words... in my country the word gay is bad for gay ppl and straight ones... kinda like the N word on the US... I never understood how ppl grant a mere word so much power but... whatever...

Regulus · February 10th, 2004

It all started with south park.....Using words like "gay" and "jew" (for me anyways :P). Use of the word "gay" has been baned in my school. Now we use such words as "Jewish" or "Democratic". I have nothing against these people, so i dont see the problem. If they are hurt by it, yea i feel bad, but i dont mean anythign by it. Even though I can't say "gay" i prefer to say "That's not very straight" better andyway :P

Sir Key · February 11th, 2004

hey who censored my cussword and didn't give me an answer?

**Betamax** · February 11th, 2004

Actually we don't need to give you an answer. The board appends an "edited by" statement at the bottom of an edited post. As is true in this case.

BTW Don't be such a smart alec in future by using cheep tricks to bypass the boards built in filter.

Tori-Yama · February 11th, 2004

the word gay? Hm, not often but ... "schwuchtel" rather more ;P I tend to agree with Tak and Sissi. There are better ways to get some attention, which furthermore, let you look good in a less embarrassing way. Even most down dressed gay ppl dislike such outfits IIRC.

February 10th, 2004	#1 (permalink)
AChrisRay Like, No? K? Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 35	The use of the word "Gay" Me and my friends were having a conversation. And I made a comment about how something was lame. I referred to it as "Gay" Actually. Using a Slang that I have developed over time to refer things I dislike as Gay. During that time My lesbian Friend got extremely upset that I said that, I got about a 30 minute lecture to using it. I then felt pretty bad about it. I have never been conscious about using the word gay negatively However, And I have always used it. The ironic Part being. I am Bisexual (Oh that might surprise a few of you ;p), and I have never EVER thought of it the way she did, Is Using such a word negatively really that detrimental to the Homosexual Community? Is it like saying "Damn That is Freaken Black" For Example? I have never considered them the same. But She did. __________________ You Really dont know what life is, Until you have had it taken away from you. CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ @ 2.0 Ghz 333FSB Mainboard:Asus A7n8x Deluxe 2.0 Memory: Corsair 512 DDR333 Video:Geforce FX 5900

February 10th, 2004	#2 (permalink)
N1ghtw0lf Crasher of Castles Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 6,836	eh...i dont think its bad, though most of the time i limit using the word, as i really have nothing against gays. I've never had anyone take offense to me saying it though __________________

February 10th, 2004	#3 (permalink)
Proto Knowledge is the solution Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mexico City, Mexico Posts: 5,543	Well, while some people might find the negative use of some words offensive, in my opinion its just the tip of the iceberg.... the epitome of a problem that wont be solved aby changing a few words in our vocabulary. Its not a change in our vocabulary the most demanding problem, but a radical change of vision about our posture against minorities that have been historically rejected and considered as parias. Compared to these, some foul vocabulary becomes laughable __________________

February 10th, 2004	#4 (permalink)
N1ghtw0lf Crasher of Castles Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 6,836	O_o...english please... i have no idea what the crap you just said... __________________

February 10th, 2004	#6 (permalink)
N1ghtw0lf Crasher of Castles Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 6,836	well your not really REJECTING minorities by calling something gay...more of like saying they are off the normal (which isn't necessarily bad)...if homosexuals take someone calling something gay as an offense, they should seriously have better things to worry about. No matter how hard you try, if your different in ANY way, someone is bound to offend you with something insignificant. __________________

February 10th, 2004	#7 (permalink)
Proto Knowledge is the solution Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mexico City, Mexico Posts: 5,543	Nonono, i just said that this kind of language usage is the reflection of the underlying problem. Even if you dont really feel it, the deep hatred of the society in general is imprinted upon you, in various degrees, being one of the minor ones the use of such vocabulary __________________

February 10th, 2004	#8 (permalink)
Rhombus The Moogle Assassin Join Date: May 2002 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 2,080	Aside from the term "homosexual" all the terms for homosexuals are insults, or have insulting connotations in and of themselves. I mean the word gay originally just meant happy. It was applied to homosexuals because of the stereotype of gays as debaucherous and just out having a merry old time - the kind of gay person that most people would call "flamingly gay". *** is another word for homosexual - it means odd or abnormal - and it was originally meant to be very insulting towards homosexuals. For some reason, the gay community decided it liked the word and now its actually a fairly accepting non-insulting term (ex. * Eye for the Straight Guy). Yeah, so "gay" was originally meant to insult homosexuals, yet it was accepted and finally adopted as simply meaning... gay. If the gay community uses a derrogation as a form of identification, do they have any right being mad at this use of the word "gay" too? Nope. If they care that much, they shouldn't call themselves gay, cause, at heart, that's an insult in and of itself. __________________ Processor: Athlon 64 3400+ Mobo: MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R RAM: 1 GB Corsair XMS GFX Card: Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro 128 Sound Card: SB Audigy 2 ZS HDD1: Seagate 160MB 8MB 7200 HDD2: Seagate 80MB 8MB 7200 Burner: NEC 16x DVDR Keyboard/Mouse: Logitech Cordless MX Duo USB Gamepad1: PS2 Dual Analog/KiKY X USB Gamepad2: Gravis GamePad Pro OS: Windows XP Pro sp2 Tempus fugit et nos fugimus in illus. Fiat justitia; ruat coelum.**

February 10th, 2004	#9 (permalink)
Sir Key Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 1,945	who the **** is AChrisRay???? and where the heck is ChrisRay??? Last edited by ShADoWFLaRe85; February 10th, 2004 at 15:32.

February 10th, 2004	#10 (permalink)
Kaiser Sigma ~ Lord of Darkness ~ Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A place darker than the night Posts: 14,591	Some words will always be forbidden... that's the way it is, gay is one of them. Some ppl do use it negatively (in fact, I might have done so a few times) so I can understand their anger... the fun part is, some ppl don't care who use the word, their best friend could do so and they will still want your head on a pike...

February 10th, 2004	#11 (permalink)
Quatro c3rTifiEd V@mpIr3 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,295	yeah... when you say the word "gay" here in our country, they either like being called like that while others are not... mostly take it negatively. Gay people are very vocal, sometimes they are nice people to hang around with ( and they have a tonload of girl friends ) but I am irrititated by their presence, especially the ones that put on make up and other "girl" stuff if you know what I mean... __________________ BE ONE OF US I JOIN THE WOLF CLAN - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

February 10th, 2004	#12 (permalink)
DarkAurora Back from the dead Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seymour, TN Posts: 3,735	I'm sure they don't like your presence either... Anyways, I don't really care that much if people use the word gay to refer to something bad because usually it has nothing to do with homosexuals. I'm more offended by the word qu-eer because it means abnormal.

February 10th, 2004	#13 (permalink)
the Hulk 4 reasons to walk away Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Location??? Posts: 567	if you call someone gay when he is then it shouldn't be considerd as negative,however if u say without a reason it is considered negative. __________________ The things we fear the mont are the things that have happened to us. currently playing Need for speed underground,bloody roar 4,splinter cell.

February 10th, 2004	#15 (permalink)
Regulus SEGA Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Nebraska, U.S. Posts: 1,579	It all started with south park.....Using words like "gay" and "jew" (for me anyways :P). Use of the word "gay" has been baned in my school. Now we use such words as "Jewish" or "Democratic". I have nothing against these people, so i dont see the problem. If they are hurt by it, yea i feel bad, but i dont mean anythign by it. Even though I can't say "gay" i prefer to say "That's not very straight" better andyway :P __________________ SEGA owns you http://www.exemu.net

February 11th, 2004	#16 (permalink)
Sir Key Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 1,945	hey who censored my cussword and didn't give me an answer?

February 11th, 2004	#17 (permalink)
Betamax Resident Movie Critic Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 9,480	Actually we don't need to give you an answer. The board appends an "edited by" statement at the bottom of an edited post. As is true in this case. BTW Don't be such a smart alec in future by using cheep tricks to bypass the boards built in filter. __________________ Superior marketing of an inferior product will always win over inferior marketing of a superior product.

February 11th, 2004	#18 (permalink)
Tori-Yama Jyushi Bismark Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 2,555	the word gay? Hm, not often but ... "schwuchtel" rather more ;P I tend to agree with Tak and Sissi. There are better ways to get some attention, which furthermore, let you look good in a less embarrassing way. Even most down dressed gay ppl dislike such outfits IIRC. __________________

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