why did arnold really run for governer?

[Narrrf]

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=16902

it's a story about arnold schwarzenegger and somehow it provides a more concrete answer as to why he wanted to run for governor. it may be fake, i don't know. i just want to hear your opinions on it.

btw i didn't vote for arnold. i didn't vote for any of them though if i did i probably would have voted for that bustamante. no id = no voting.

[Unicron]

you silly retard...hasnt anyone told you not to believe everything you read on the web?


Edit: and if you choose to believe any crap the web spews at you read from a less politically inclined site.

[Narrrf]

hey hey, there's no need for this name calling. i'm not saying that it's true or anything. i wanted your opinions on it and/or any evidence for or against. please try to dispute it in a possibly more believable manner.

if i have to look for answers anywhere, that web site seems indeed, a lot more professional than any other sort of forum.

what do you mean by less politically inclined site? i don't know of any afflilitations that site has. and so what about any sort of inclination? a story is a story. and if we can't discount it by any normal methods, then how can we discount it as "crap."

[Unicron]

my appologies for the name calling...meant as simple humor.

[Narrrf]

no problem

[Regulus]

It's simple. He ran for governor to promote his new movie.

[Sampah]

to promote his new movie? cool! because it is easier to gain profit by that way

[Seta-San]

it's political rheteric. if i doesn't make the real news than it's probably junk.
notice the side button. "5 Biggest lies bush told us about iraq". read the headlines it's you can tell this is definately a democrat ran site giving only democrat views. It's like Fox News except worse.

[Unicron]

Originally Posted by Narrrf

...what do you mean by less politically inclined site? i don't know of any afflilitations that site has. and so what about any sort of inclination? a story is a story. and if we can't discount it by any normal methods, then how can we discount it as "crap."

I couldnt have said it better...I was just waiting for someone else to say it. \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/

Originally Posted by Seta-San

it's political rheteric. if i doesn't make the real news than it's probably junk.
notice the side button. "5 Biggest lies bush told us about iraq". read the headlines it's you can tell this is definately a democrat ran site giving only democrat views. It's like Fox News except worse.

[Narrrf]

you may be right, that it may be political rhetoric. but i have trouble seeing it as such. if it was political rhetoric wouldn't they have sponsers for it? why would they ask for donations? (on the right hand bar)

ok it may be that this is secretly operated by the democratic party, that it's all just another underground conspiracy to sway our minds. but maybe it's just the republicans who're messing up right now. maybe this "independent" website is just liberally inclined. that doesn't make the story any less true than.

although, i'd love to see this on the news and the fact that it isn't, does make me question the nature of the site itself. hmmm... how to decide...

btw more research can be done at an alternate website. http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/
at the bottom of one article it states:
FTCR is a non-partisan, nonprofit organization. FTCR does not support or oppose candidates for office and takes no position on the California recall.

this greatly valitdates the claims on the other website which only repeated what was found here. so now if you persist in thinking that this is political rheotric than could you invalidate this website as well?

[Demigod]

Please, just give it a rest. I mean who cares why he ran for governor (aside from you)? If there was some evidence to a secret motive it would be all over the tabloids by now. I mean just because the guy's an action star we have to go probing into his life like this?

[netghost2.0]

Originally Posted by Seta-San

it's political rheteric. if i doesn't make the real news than it's probably junk.
notice the side button. "5 Biggest lies bush told us about iraq". read the headlines it's you can tell this is definately a democrat ran site giving only democrat views. It's like Fox News except worse.

Eric Alterman may be a left-leaning, flaming liberal but I certainly would not categorize his site as being "worse" than Fox News. Fox News is the epitome of all the things that are wrong in today's jingoistic news media. Besides the fact, the stories at alternet.org are at least far better than the outright nastiness and censorship that goes on at the Republican cheerleading Free Republic website and the FR forums.

Besides the fact, both right-wing and left-wing sites are critical of Bush's handling of the war on Iraq. Being anti-Bush or anti-war does not necessarily mean you are a Democratic operative.

Originally Posted by Narrrf

you may be right, that it may be political rhetoric. but i have trouble seeing it as such. if it was political rhetoric wouldn't they have sponsers for it? why would they ask for donations? (on the right hand bar)

ok it may be that this is secretly operated by the democratic party, that it's all just another underground conspiracy to sway our minds. but maybe it's just the republicans who're messing up right now. maybe this "independent" website is just liberally inclined. that doesn't make the story any less true than.

although, i'd love to see this on the news and the fact that it isn't, does make me question the nature of the site itself. hmmm... how to decide...

Eric Alterman is a well-known left-wing writer who writes articles for MSNBC and The Nation. Anything from his site would obviously reflect his political bias. That does not necessarily invalidate all the information from his site, however, one should always be weary of the political motives of the author or source.

Besides the point, the author cited in the article is none other than Greg Palast; a famous liberal reporter for the Guardian and BBC. He is originally from the U.S. and now resides in Britain. He is most famous (or infamous?) for authoring a book called The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, a book detailing how the Bush administration supposedly manipulated votes in the Florida recount to tilt the votes towards George W. Bush. Anyhow, I haven't read the book so I won't judge its content although his frequent partisan attacks against Republican policies should be noted on his website (http://www.gregpalast.com).

Despite Palast's political bias, he is known for his meticulous research and strong investigative reporting. However, I would take his articles with a grain of salt since he is extremely hostile to Republicans.

[VDDZ]

I read the first 3 sentences and stoped, it's crap.

[Narrrf]

well, everything you say does make sense. thanks for your views. i, however, am not as politically savvy as you are and have little clue as to what you're talking about. i'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and then research it a little bit, and yeah... i just thought it was an interesting article.

Originally Posted by netghost2.0

Fox News is the epitome of all the things that are wrong in today's jingoistic news media.

i disagree however. the upn news is a heck of a lot worse. upn is crap. have you even seen the crap on it? they cover basically the biggest articles, then go on to sex and backyard wrestling. i agree, fox news is bad. but upn news is so much more worse. i watch abc and nbc anyway.

[netghost2.0]

Originally Posted by Narrrf

i disagree however. the upn news is a heck of a lot worse. upn is crap. have you even seen the crap on it? they cover basically the biggest articles, then go on to sex and backyard wrestling. i agree, fox news is bad. but upn news is so much more worse. i watch abc and nbc anyway.

Well, I was focusing on the major news networks which includes CNN, Fox, ABC, CBS, and NBC. Therefore, UPN was not really part of my focus (UPN has a news program?).

Anyhow, you should try PBS News particularly the PBS Newshour with Jim Lehrer. It is perhaps the most balanced and objective American news program out there.