A sign from God?

RZetlin · July 5th, 2003

Be careful what you ask for when you are preaching.

Tori-Yama · July 5th, 2003

LOL!

It sounds like god had said: "shut up!"

Well, I guess it was a accident. Like everytime when ppl think they got a sign of "god".

Kid A · July 5th, 2003

Hah. Divine punishment.

Exodus · July 5th, 2003

lesson learned. don't ask for signs. i wonder what the chances of that had to be

Carnage · July 5th, 2003

wow...very small chance of that happening...strange...

SnakeBite · July 5th, 2003

Mr. Killjoy · July 5th, 2003

:rofl:

He deserved it

EDIT: WTF happened to :ROFL:?

Galway no Sora · July 5th, 2003

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kid A

Hah. Divine punishment.

Reminds me with Valkyrie Profile. BTW, it not like something good to ask signs to the God

, and ppl should realized that, tough I'm sure God wouldn't do that punishment.

Chinoz · July 5th, 2003

Rofl. Guess his sign was to shut up

Shadow Warrior · July 5th, 2003

Cool!

Blue Spirit · July 5th, 2003

wow awesome

Boltzmann · July 5th, 2003

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killjoy

EDIT: WTF happened to :ROFL:?

Now it's : rotflmao :

Back on topic, I would say that the chances for this to happen are very small. An omnipotent god that sets fire on a church to give a sign to a preacher isn't a very logical explanation, either.
In the ausence of any other evidence (the news piece has no additional information) I would say that it was just a coincidence (and I hate when people say that "coincidences don't exist

). IMO more likely explanations would be either unintentional distortion of the facts by the church members (confabulation can go a long way on such cases), intentional distortion (religious people love telling big stories of miracles

) or a pious fraud. Or a combination of the three

N1ghtw0lf · July 6th, 2003

that's great

**Kirby** · July 6th, 2003

http://www.turnto10.com/news/2274798/detail.html

similar situation in massachusetts. This is a sign from god, or is it a mineral deposit? Science plays religion for a piece of ****, good for science

N1ghtw0lf · July 6th, 2003

what does the virgin mary have to do with mineral deposits or lightning?

Boltzmann · July 6th, 2003

Greetings,

Explanation for most of the phenomena described on the news posted Kirby is rather easy. It's called pareidolia. It's a type of illusion or misperception involving a vague or obscure stimulus being perceived as something clear and distinct. For example, in the discolorations of a burnt tortilla one sees the face of Jesus Christ. Or one sees the image of Mother Theresa or Ronald Reagan in a cinnamon bun or the face of a man in the moon.

Pareidolia surely is behind many sights of UFOs, bigfoot, ghosts and Loch Ness monster.
Some psychologists like to encourage pareidolia, applying tests like the Rorschach ink blot test.

Most people recognize illusions for what they are, but some become fixated on the reality of their perception and turn an illusion into a delusion. A little bit of critical thinking, however, should convince most reasonable persons that a cinnamon bun that looks like mother Teresa or a burnt area on a tortilla that looks like Jesus are accidents and without significance. It is more likely that the Virgin Mary one sees in the reflection of a mirror or on the floor of an apartment complex or in the clouds has been generated from one's own imagination than that a person who has been dead for 2,000 years should manifest herself in such a mundane and useless fashion.

Like Mark Twain said once, "sometimes truth is stranger than fiction".

Live long and prosper.

Strider · July 6th, 2003

hah, damn evangelists trying to make money off people's gullibility proclaiming that they are the messengers of god, divine punishment indeed

Carnage · July 6th, 2003

mm...they saw mary in the window...I saw a man holding his arms above his head,holding a stone,like he was ready to bash someone with it

shadow_dreamer · July 6th, 2003

Ridiculous, at least for me.. Chances of this happening are very slim or very rare.. Tough bad luck..

Boltzmann · July 6th, 2003

In fact the chances are so slim that I'm led to believe in confabulation and malicious distortion of the facts. It's a common fact when it comes to religious matters.

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RZetlin General of Tangerines Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Defending the Sea Posts: 3,885	A sign from God? Be careful what you ask for when you are preaching. __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3700+ \| 2 GB RAM \| XFX Nvidia 6800 GS 256 MB XXX Edition \| Win XP Pro SP2

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Tori-Yama Jyushi Bismark Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 2,555	Re: A sign from God? LOL! It sounds like god had said: "shut up!" Well, I guess it was a accident. Like everytime when ppl think they got a sign of "god". __________________

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Kid A ~ Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 0	Re: A sign from God? Hah. Divine punishment.

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Carnage Illusion's play Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In a world of lies Posts: 3,703	wow...very small chance of that happening...strange... __________________ Member of the " Pessimists Club " Visit my personal Doom project (music,not the game) at Lament Of Suffering

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Kirby Politically incorrect FTW Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,445	http://www.turnto10.com/news/2274798/detail.html similar situation in massachusetts. This is a sign from god, or is it a mineral deposit? Science plays religion for a piece of ****, good for science __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ Toledo, Nvidia GeForce 7950GT SLi, 2GB PC3200 2-3-2-5, ABit AN8-SLi, Sound Blaster X-FI XtremeMusic

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N1ghtw0lf Crasher of Castles Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 6,836	Re: A sign from God? what does the virgin mary have to do with mineral deposits or lightning? __________________

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Boltzmann Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: São Paulo - Brazil Posts: 7,649	Re: A sign from God? Greetings, Explanation for most of the phenomena described on the news posted Kirby is rather easy. It's called pareidolia. It's a type of illusion or misperception involving a vague or obscure stimulus being perceived as something clear and distinct. For example, in the discolorations of a burnt tortilla one sees the face of Jesus Christ. Or one sees the image of Mother Theresa or Ronald Reagan in a cinnamon bun or the face of a man in the moon. Pareidolia surely is behind many sights of UFOs, bigfoot, ghosts and Loch Ness monster. Some psychologists like to encourage pareidolia, applying tests like the Rorschach ink blot test. Most people recognize illusions for what they are, but some become fixated on the reality of their perception and turn an illusion into a delusion. A little bit of critical thinking, however, should convince most reasonable persons that a cinnamon bun that looks like mother Teresa or a burnt area on a tortilla that looks like Jesus are accidents and without significance. It is more likely that the Virgin Mary one sees in the reflection of a mirror or on the floor of an apartment complex or in the clouds has been generated from one's own imagination than that a person who has been dead for 2,000 years should manifest herself in such a mundane and useless fashion. Like Mark Twain said once, "sometimes truth is stranger than fiction". Live long and prosper. __________________ "The Improved Man will be a king over you. And give women their dowries as appointed." - Anders Sandberg The Hell Law says that Hell is reserved exclusively for them that believe in it. Further, the lowest Rung in Hell is reserved for them that believe in it on the supposition that they'll go there if they don't. - HBT; The Gospel According to Fred, 3:1 - The Principia Discordia

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Strider Living Paradigm Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 10,224	Re: A sign from God? hah, damn evangelists trying to make money off people's gullibility proclaiming that they are the messengers of god, divine punishment indeed __________________ My Deviant Art

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Carnage Illusion's play Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In a world of lies Posts: 3,703	mm...they saw mary in the window...I saw a man holding his arms above his head,holding a stone,like he was ready to bash someone with it __________________ Member of the " Pessimists Club " Visit my personal Doom project (music,not the game) at Lament Of Suffering

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shadow_dreamer Simple smile.. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,491	Re: A sign from God? Ridiculous, at least for me.. Chances of this happening are very slim or very rare.. Tough bad luck.. __________________ Forgive and Forget... Forgive and Forget... the Dreamer's tales: . . . I'm in this place again.. Though, i think i shouldn't be.. I've always wondered what is my purpose in this world, and still, the answer hasn't come... Or should i say, i must find that answer in this world... Oh well, i must do my job... (went off and assasinated the minister) Evil people led me to this kind of life... Now, i must return those things back to them by death...

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Boltzmann Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: São Paulo - Brazil Posts: 7,649	Re: A sign from God? In fact the chances are so slim that I'm led to believe in confabulation and malicious distortion of the facts. It's a common fact when it comes to religious matters. __________________ "The Improved Man will be a king over you. And give women their dowries as appointed." - Anders Sandberg The Hell Law says that Hell is reserved exclusively for them that believe in it. Further, the lowest Rung in Hell is reserved for them that believe in it on the supposition that they'll go there if they don't. - HBT; The Gospel According to Fred, 3:1 - The Principia Discordia

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