the matrix: reloaded - hype it here - Page 2

Boltzmann · May 9th, 2003

Greetings,

I'll go watch Matrix Reloaded, but I don't have very high expectations. It's good as an action move, but action isn't my favorite genre. It's main theme (humans living in computer simulations) attract me, but it's poorly treated in the movie. The authors don't anything about physics or thermodynamics, for their explanation about using humans as living batteries in outright silly (you would spend more energy doing the simulation and life-support on the humans then you would get out of them).
Besides, the first movie is about what I call "techno-misticism". It has all elements of medieval supernatural stories (a choosen one, an oracle, fate, an awakening ritual and many more) transposed to a pseudo-futuristic setting". It's almost as if they have changed the old medieval dragon into a sentient computer.
It's for these reasons that I don't think "Matrix" is such a great sci-fi movie (it has too many fiction and too much silly science [or nonsense science as Michael Shermer would put it]). But I'll see the second movie anyway, as I don't think it will be a total waste of time and money (it has it's good points).

BTW, is it true that they'll release the third movie in november? It's rather unusual, don't you think??

Live long and prosper.

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Hanamichi · May 9th, 2003

Why did they ban Daredevil?
In anycase, my country is pretty sensitive when it comes to religious stuff in movies. You give one slight hint on christian superiority and they'd ban the movie. One mention of the evil character being muslim or has a name similar to that of one, the movie is gone.
Oh, if the muslim character is the hero, that'd be a different story.

Chinoz · May 9th, 2003

Well....IIRC they banned DD coz of something related to the word vigilante. Then the Censorship Board had this thing against the guy who turns evil at night. Can't really remember what they said exactly.

**DarkAurora** · May 9th, 2003

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Originally posted by Han
Why did they ban Daredevil?
In anycase, my country is pretty sensitive when it comes to religious stuff in movies. You give one slight hint on christian superiority and they'd ban the movie. One mention of the evil character being muslim or has a name similar to that of one, the movie is gone.
Oh, if the muslim character is the hero, that'd be a different story.

They have no right to determine what religion should be in a movie. You should have freedom of religion and that censorship board pisses me off.

Hanamichi · May 9th, 2003

Not that they have rights in many things. They're shaping my country as they wish anyway.

felinusz · May 9th, 2003

That, is ridiculous. The government has no right to limit the religious content of movies. They banned DareDevil? HEy, it's an *ACTION MOVIE*, not a religious commentary. It would suck for you if it is bannned though... you might have to resort to piracy (and bad image quality) (WHICH IS WRONG, AND IS NOT THE WAY OF NGEMU

) or take a brief trip to a neighbouring country (not sure where you live, might be an island for all I know...

)

G-Pitts · May 9th, 2003

Our government will ban any movie that using "Allah" name for any character (didn't care if it is the hero or the evil character) because "Allah" is the name of god and it is not right to name a character in a movie as "Allah". Imagine how will the christian feel if the name of the bad character in that movie is Jesus.

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Unicron · May 9th, 2003

>>BTW, is it true that they'll release the third movie in november? It's rather unusual, don't you think??

Yup...I guess they had already finished all the filming and editing already...I think aliyah (sp) would have been hotter than the girl they have...:/

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movi...eut/index.html

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DB7 · May 9th, 2003

Not sure but I think that the only film thats been banned for religious content in the UK is the Life of Brian, the Monty Python film, I could be wrong though.

**Kane** · May 9th, 2003

That was banned? I bought that the other day......
It's also been on TV, as I have a recording of that.

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DB7 · May 9th, 2003

Sorry I just assumed that people knew the ban had been lifted, its even been shown on BBC2 "He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy"

And apoligise for usurping another thread with an unrelated subject.

Unicron · May 10th, 2003

ROFL I just saw a friggin funny commercial. It was for heineken (sp). It was a woman that looks like trinity from the matrix as a barmaid and she was delivering a couple of beers. So on the way the camera focuses on her ass when a guy slaps her on the ass. She then throws the beer in the air and goes into matrix jump mode and kicks the guy into the wall...she lands and catches the beers and delivers them.

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Boltzmann · May 10th, 2003

Greetings,

It seems to be funny, but I don't think it's coming to Brazil

BTW, I was checking that link on CNN.com that you posted and as it seems they'll really release the movie in november. But I think it's strange, anyway.

Live long and prosper.

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N1ghtw0lf · May 10th, 2003

all i can really say is...damn...i have to have an adult to go with me to R rated movies...and im not an adult...maybe i can convince my brother or something...and about all the comments by boltzman...yes a lot of that is true...hooking people up as batteries is silly...but its just a movie...if we wanted everything to be realistic we'd just live our lives...thats what make movies is so great is that in no way do they need to be realistic to be enjoyable...

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Chinoz · May 10th, 2003

>> It would suck for you if it is bannned though... you might have to resort to piracy (and bad image quality) (WHICH IS WRONG, AND IS NOT THE WAY OF NGEMU )

Bad image quality? Times change, bebeh. Someday, if you ever chance upon coming to Malaysia, you'll understand what I'm saying..

>>Our government will ban any movie that using "Allah" name for any character (didn't care if it is the hero or the evil character) because "Allah" is the name of god and it is not right to name a character in a movie as "Allah". Imagine how will the christian feel if the name of the bad character in that movie is Jesus.
Well, I'm Buddhist, and if a movie chooses to use Buddha, heck why should I mind? (Unless my name is Buddha too, but that is not to be)

SnakeBite · May 10th, 2003

good movies shouldn't be banned at all! especially not a good movie as the matrix reloaded! it looks better than the first.. must see it..

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May 10th, 2003

hype it here?!?
what does that mean???

DB7 · May 10th, 2003

Hype it here means basically mean talk about how good you think the Matrix Reloaded is going to be.
I don't care much for the plot of the first one but the fight scenes were fantastic, the ones in Reloaded are meant to be even better.

felinusz · May 10th, 2003

N1ghtw0lf: Here in Canada they will let you into a R rated movie if you are with

a) a group of people (they don't want to ruin your outing)

b) a girl (they don't want to ruin your date)

c) are older than 18

So try a few of these and see what happens... good luck...

The trailer for the movie is awesome by itself, the one scene they show *spoiler*

of Neo fighting 100 agent smiths is *awesome*. They're also releasing a 'animatrix' DVD only type thing that looks neat.

as for them releasing the 3rd one so soon after the second, I assume that they hope the hype will overflow from the second and increase ticket sales for the third. Usually though they wait untill the previous movie has had it's run of te theatres and made some cash (look at the LOTR movies, they are all finished also...) before they release the sequel...

TIME's review of the game says that at one point the player is confronted with a black screen and a DOS prompt, given no instructions as to what to do next. This idea is pretty cool sounding, the player is forced to think for themselves, mess around with different possibilities of what to do and 'hack' (prolly pretty simplistic and primitive though). I think that the game will be something else, not just your typical FPSer.

Boltzmann · May 10th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by N1ghtw0lf
all i can really say is...damn...i have to have an adult to go with me to R rated movies...and im not an adult...maybe i can convince my brother or something...and about all the comments by boltzman...yes a lot of that is true...hooking people up as batteries is silly...but its just a movie...if we wanted everything to be realistic we'd just live our lives...thats what make movies is so great is that in no way do they need to be realistic to be enjoyable...

I agree with most of what you said, and I don't want movies to be 100% realistic (I'm a fan of science fiction and horror, after all). But I think that using stupid or plainly wrong physics is a bad thing, like the human batteries in Matrix. But I've already said that Matrix has it's good points, and I'll go and watch it.

And how old r u? Here in Brazil Matrix will be rated for people over 16, is it different where you live?

Live long and prosper.

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May 9th, 2003	#21 (permalink)
Boltzmann Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: São Paulo - Brazil Posts: 7,651	Greetings, I'll go watch Matrix Reloaded, but I don't have very high expectations. It's good as an action move, but action isn't my favorite genre. It's main theme (humans living in computer simulations) attract me, but it's poorly treated in the movie. The authors don't anything about physics or thermodynamics, for their explanation about using humans as living batteries in outright silly (you would spend more energy doing the simulation and life-support on the humans then you would get out of them). Besides, the first movie is about what I call "techno-misticism". It has all elements of medieval supernatural stories (a choosen one, an oracle, fate, an awakening ritual and many more) transposed to a pseudo-futuristic setting". It's almost as if they have changed the old medieval dragon into a sentient computer. It's for these reasons that I don't think "Matrix" is such a great sci-fi movie (it has too many fiction and too much silly science [or nonsense science as Michael Shermer would put it]). But I'll see the second movie anyway, as I don't think it will be a total waste of time and money (it has it's good points). BTW, is it true that they'll release the third movie in november? It's rather unusual, don't you think?? Live long and prosper. __________________ 'You're spying and betraying Switzerland to try and keep alive somebody with a hook and spinal fluid and no skull in an irreversible coma? And I thought I was disturbed. You're making me totally reorient my idea of disturbed, mister.' - David Foster Wallace, "Infinite Jest"

May 9th, 2003	#22 (permalink)
Hanamichi Crotally Tazy Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 4,578	Why did they ban Daredevil? In anycase, my country is pretty sensitive when it comes to religious stuff in movies. You give one slight hint on christian superiority and they'd ban the movie. One mention of the evil character being muslim or has a name similar to that of one, the movie is gone. Oh, if the muslim character is the hero, that'd be a different story.

May 9th, 2003	#23 (permalink)
Chinoz ... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Desa Park, Key Ell, Malaysia Posts: 2,307	Well....IIRC they banned DD coz of something related to the word vigilante. Then the Censorship Board had this thing against the guy who turns evil at night. Can't really remember what they said exactly. __________________ System specs P4 2.6c \| Abit AI7 \| Radeon 9800pro \| 1024mb kingston ddr400 \| 120gb seagate sata \| 40mb wd \| And all the minor bits and pieces 3dMark2001SE

May 9th, 2003	#25 (permalink)
Hanamichi Crotally Tazy Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 4,578	Not that they have rights in many things. They're shaping my country as they wish anyway.

May 9th, 2003	#26 (permalink)
felinusz overclocking magus Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,372	That, is ridiculous. The government has no right to limit the religious content of movies. They banned DareDevil? HEy, it's an ACTION MOVIE, not a religious commentary. It would suck for you if it is bannned though... you might have to resort to piracy (and bad image quality) (WHICH IS WRONG, AND IS NOT THE WAY OF NGEMU ) or take a brief trip to a neighbouring country (not sure where you live, might be an island for all I know... )

May 9th, 2003	#27 (permalink)
G-Pitts Whats Up Doc! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land Below The Wind, Malaysia Posts: 1,232	Our government will ban any movie that using "Allah" name for any character (didn't care if it is the hero or the evil character) because "Allah" is the name of god and it is not right to name a character in a movie as "Allah". Imagine how will the christian feel if the name of the bad character in that movie is Jesus. __________________ Kar-T-Ney + AMD Athlon64 X2 3600+ (2.25 ghz) + 4096 MB DDR2 + Geforce 7600GT 256 MB DDR3 + Realtek HD Audio + WinXP Pro SP2

May 9th, 2003	#28 (permalink)
Unicron Git er done Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC USA GO us! Posts: 2,829	>>BTW, is it true that they'll release the third movie in november? It's rather unusual, don't you think?? Yup...I guess they had already finished all the filming and editing already...I think aliyah (sp) would have been hotter than the girl they have...:/ http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movi...eut/index.html __________________ It is the soldier, not the court, that has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protestor the freedom he abuses to burn that flag. -Senator Zell Miller

May 9th, 2003	#29 (permalink)
DB7 Miserable Bugger Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,061	Not sure but I think that the only film thats been banned for religious content in the UK is the Life of Brian, the Monty Python film, I could be wrong though.

May 9th, 2003	#30 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	That was banned? I bought that the other day...... It's also been on TV, as I have a recording of that. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

May 9th, 2003	#31 (permalink)
DB7 Miserable Bugger Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,061	Sorry I just assumed that people knew the ban had been lifted, its even been shown on BBC2 "He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy" And apoligise for usurping another thread with an unrelated subject.

May 10th, 2003	#32 (permalink)
Unicron Git er done Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC USA GO us! Posts: 2,829	ROFL I just saw a friggin funny commercial. It was for heineken (sp). It was a woman that looks like trinity from the matrix as a barmaid and she was delivering a couple of beers. So on the way the camera focuses on her ass when a guy slaps her on the ass. She then throws the beer in the air and goes into matrix jump mode and kicks the guy into the wall...she lands and catches the beers and delivers them. __________________ It is the soldier, not the court, that has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protestor the freedom he abuses to burn that flag. -Senator Zell Miller

May 10th, 2003	#33 (permalink)
Boltzmann Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: São Paulo - Brazil Posts: 7,651	Greetings, It seems to be funny, but I don't think it's coming to Brazil BTW, I was checking that link on CNN.com that you posted and as it seems they'll really release the movie in november. But I think it's strange, anyway. Live long and prosper. __________________ 'You're spying and betraying Switzerland to try and keep alive somebody with a hook and spinal fluid and no skull in an irreversible coma? And I thought I was disturbed. You're making me totally reorient my idea of disturbed, mister.' - David Foster Wallace, "Infinite Jest"

May 10th, 2003	#34 (permalink)
N1ghtw0lf Crasher of Castles Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 6,970	all i can really say is...damn...i have to have an adult to go with me to R rated movies...and im not an adult...maybe i can convince my brother or something...and about all the comments by boltzman...yes a lot of that is true...hooking people up as batteries is silly...but its just a movie...if we wanted everything to be realistic we'd just live our lives...thats what make movies is so great is that in no way do they need to be realistic to be enjoyable... __________________

May 10th, 2003	#35 (permalink)
Chinoz ... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Desa Park, Key Ell, Malaysia Posts: 2,307	>> It would suck for you if it is bannned though... you might have to resort to piracy (and bad image quality) (WHICH IS WRONG, AND IS NOT THE WAY OF NGEMU ) Bad image quality? Times change, bebeh. Someday, if you ever chance upon coming to Malaysia, you'll understand what I'm saying.. >>Our government will ban any movie that using "Allah" name for any character (didn't care if it is the hero or the evil character) because "Allah" is the name of god and it is not right to name a character in a movie as "Allah". Imagine how will the christian feel if the name of the bad character in that movie is Jesus. Well, I'm Buddhist, and if a movie chooses to use Buddha, heck why should I mind? (Unless my name is Buddha too, but that is not to be) __________________ System specs P4 2.6c \| Abit AI7 \| Radeon 9800pro \| 1024mb kingston ddr400 \| 120gb seagate sata \| 40mb wd \| And all the minor bits and pieces 3dMark2001SE

May 10th, 2003	#36 (permalink)
SnakeBite Translator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 669	good movies shouldn't be banned at all! especially not a good movie as the matrix reloaded! it looks better than the first.. must see it.. __________________ This is my new improved sig.

May 10th, 2003	#37 (permalink)
nialldevlin Guest Posts: n/a	hype it here?!? what does that mean???

May 10th, 2003	#38 (permalink)
DB7 Miserable Bugger Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,061	Hype it here means basically mean talk about how good you think the Matrix Reloaded is going to be. I don't care much for the plot of the first one but the fight scenes were fantastic, the ones in Reloaded are meant to be even better.

May 10th, 2003	#39 (permalink)
felinusz overclocking magus Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,372	N1ghtw0lf: Here in Canada they will let you into a R rated movie if you are with a) a group of people (they don't want to ruin your outing) b) a girl (they don't want to ruin your date) c) are older than 18 So try a few of these and see what happens... good luck... The trailer for the movie is awesome by itself, the one scene they show spoiler of Neo fighting 100 agent smiths is awesome. They're also releasing a 'animatrix' DVD only type thing that looks neat. as for them releasing the 3rd one so soon after the second, I assume that they hope the hype will overflow from the second and increase ticket sales for the third. Usually though they wait untill the previous movie has had it's run of te theatres and made some cash (look at the LOTR movies, they are all finished also...) before they release the sequel... TIME's review of the game says that at one point the player is confronted with a black screen and a DOS prompt, given no instructions as to what to do next. This idea is pretty cool sounding, the player is forced to think for themselves, mess around with different possibilities of what to do and 'hack' (prolly pretty simplistic and primitive though). I think that the game will be something else, not just your typical FPSer.