Space shuttle burned up on re-entry!

Pro_D · February 1st, 2003

Space shuttle burn up on re-entry, nasa to have some words on it at 9:30, my time or 11:30 their time (I am -7gmt), if ya got cnn or any other major news channel take a gander.

Right now they know basicaly nothing, will edit with more info...

edit: www.cnn.com has information litering their site and likely updated rapidly if you don't have cnn as a channel.

final edit: They say (before anouncement) that the burn up was likely due to a part, probobly a heat tile from near/on the wing, falling off during take off. They pretty much rejected the likelyness of terrorism btw due to lack of evidence, also no one had yet claimed responsibility.

Bits of the shuttle are now scattered across a city and outlying areas in texas.

Im gonna go offline now, keep an eye on cnn or your favorite large news channel for further info (I am gonna be watching cnn a bit and fox news channel a bunch).

**Kirby** · February 1st, 2003

I just posted this

like 2 minutes ago

I'll delete mine.

Pro_D · February 1st, 2003

sorry about that, when I was posting I didn't see yours, or I woulda replied instead of new post.

**Kirby** · February 1st, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Pro_D
sorry about that, when I was posting I didn't see yours, or I woulda replied instead of new post.

happens all the time. No hard feelings

anyways, your subject title was better

I still can't believe they actually considered (or thought of) this being a terrorist act. Missles can't even reach that high...

Strider · February 1st, 2003

>I still can't believe they actually considered (or thought of) this being a terrorist act. Missles can't even reach that high...

same here, thats exactly what i thought when i saw this... first off, if they sabotaged it before takeoff, somebody would have known, they always have a group of technicians making maintenance checks on everything and they have several dozen scientists there too, i think it would be pretty hard to rip off a few screws of a tile without being seen, second, once it launched, it lost that plate, thats a very good explanation as to why it would have burned up, third, while its in space, there is NO way any terrorist would be able to get it, try throwing a grenade through the ionosphere

, lastly, while going down, i doubt even 1000 taliban with ak47s and rpgs would be able to hit it, not to mention the fact that 1,000 taliban seen anywhere in america shooting guns at a shuttle would be arrested, they wouldnt even be able form a crowd without arousing suspicion, not to mention getting that many guns

**Kirby** · February 1st, 2003

Does anyone know where I can find live coverage of this on the internet? I don't have a TV with me...

**Prafull** · February 1st, 2003

I have been watching all the news live on my tv.
Its really sad. Another setback for science .

Too bad there was an Indian "kalpana chawla" onboard. We lost a very promising young scientist. :sad:

**moomoomoo** · February 1st, 2003

yea, the whole thing sucks... apparently the Indian astronaught was trying to make the youth of India interested in Science...

**Kirby** · February 1st, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by moomoomoo
yea, the whole thing sucks... apparently the Indian astronaught was trying to make the youth of India interested in Science...

I thought there was also an Isralea on that ship. The first one to go up in space I believe

**Kane** · February 1st, 2003

Aye, they announced a news bulleting while I was watching Columbo, so I've been watching BBC News 24 hence.

**moomoomoo** · February 1st, 2003

yea, I think I've got mixed up between those two countries... There's a clip on TV now of it breaking up... I guess it's a pretty big set-back from NASA as well... There were 7 people on-board :S

Kane, see the first ever episode of Red dwarf on TV the other night?

Pro_D · February 1st, 2003

>I still can't believe they actually considered (or thought of) this being a terrorist act. Missles can't even reach that high...

to make matters worse, just about every expert and most people on the news were saying that it was unlikely or probobly wasn't a terrorist act yet this guy comes on cnn and very assuradly pushes that it was terrorism since this being an accident was impossible. <shakes head> take your news with a grain of salt eh?

edit: Kirby> keep a close eye on cnn.com's front page, they will have a live link to click when nasa does it's address, they moved it off 2 hours from the scheduled time at the last moment.

Syed Fawad · February 1st, 2003

It is a sad incident no doubt. I watched that video of breaking of the space shuttle into pieces. I felt so bad.

What would have it felt like if I was on that ship. Oh man.

**Kane** · February 1st, 2003

>Kane, see the first ever episode of Red dwarf on TV the other night?

I have it on DVD

This was no terrorist act. It was an accident. Accidents happen every day.

**mikeshoup** · February 1st, 2003

This is pretty sad.

They don't even know where it landed.

Those poor 7 people.

**Kirby** · February 1st, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by mike9010
They don't even know where it landed.

There will be pieces scattered everywhere. Mostly everything burned up in the atmosphere. No remains, no bodies...

**moomoomoo** · February 1st, 2003

God... they're saying no one should touch the wreckage... I don't think people are going to be very inclined to...

**Kirby** · February 1st, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by moomoomoo
God... they're saying no one should touch the wreckage... I don't think people are going to be very inclined to...

I also heard you would get into trouble with the government if you did pick it up.

Pro_D · February 1st, 2003

kirby> I am hunting for live news broadcasts on the subject (that are free), I will post links in edits on this post...

woah! here is a big one: http://broadcast-live.com/radionews.html
there are tons of channels radio and tv to look at, broadband and modem speeds, This will probobly do it for ya. If I see something more I will edit it in here.

SkyeHack · February 1st, 2003

Breaking News: Space Shuttle Feared Lost
I would post this on news but its really important and needs your immediate attnetion!!!!!!

On BBC World and CNN theres news breaking that the US Space Shuttle "Colombia" is in problems and possibly lost with all crew. Shuttle commander Rick D. Husband, Pilot William C. McCool, Payload Commander Michael P. Anderson, Mission Specialists David M. Brown, Kalpana Chawla and Laurel Clark and Israel's first astronaut, Ilan Ramon, were on board.

The Columbia was the oldest of the Shuttle fleet, built in 1979. Below is a picture courtesy of CNN that shows debris from what can only be the shuttle itself. NASA has dispatched Search & Rescue in the Dallas area. NASA says a loud "bang" or impact could be heard as the shuttle re-entered Earth's Atmosphere, Re-entry is the hardest part of the mission where there is no margin for error.

We will bring you more as the story unfolds

Update: Ilan Ramon, a colonel in Israel's air force and former fighter pilot, became the first man from his country to fly in space, and his presence resulted in an increase in security, not only for Columbia's January 16 launch, but also for its landing.

Space agency officials feared his presence might make the shuttle more of a terrorist target.

View: CNN: Space shuttle loses contact http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/...g.ap/index.html
View: BBC: Nasa loses contact with shuttle http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/2716369.stm
View: Google News Stories http://news.google.com/news?num=30&.../> %2c00%2ehtml

Update: The Space Shuttle has been lost to NASA, with the agency saying it "fears for the worst" after losing touch with the Shuttle 200,000 miles above Texas this morning.

Seven astronauts are on board.

The spacecraft was due for a sheduled landing at 2.16 GMT. There are unconfirmed reports that "multiple tails" or vapour trails were seen coming from the craft as it was descending over the US.

A NASA spokeswoman said that "we have lost contact with the vehicle and the crew. I am sure that NASA is mobilising in the Dallas area. (Source: Sky News http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/...1078668,00.html )

Update: NASA, while not saying the shuttle had exploded, broken up or crashed, warned that any debris found in the area should be avoided and could be hazardous. (Source: CNN http://www.cnn.com/ )

Update: This is the most serious incident involving a shuttle since the 1986 crash of the space shuttle Challenger, which carried seven astronauts. Pres. Reagan cancelled the State of the Union address in 1986 on hearing about the Challenger disaster. The President [Bush] is expected to make an announcement shortly

Update: One video scene shows what looks like debris falling to earth. It is feared that the Shuttle broke up on entry to the Earth's atmosphere when it would be travelling at 12,500mph.

Video: Columbia breaking up in atmosphere (Sky News) http://www.sky.com/shared/videoasx/...31200-56,00.asx

Update: Janet Smith-Bozart, who was driving near Dallas, saw what is believed to be the shuttle?s descent and described it to MSNBC. ?I thought at first it might be a meteor coming into the atmosphere and then I realized it was much too big and much too slow for that,? she said. ?Essentially the entire thing just broke apart and the whole thing just disappeared. ... Eventually it just sort of faded and there was no more contrail or anything.?Explosions were widely reported across Texas.?It was like a car hitting the house or an explosion. It shook that much,? John Ferolito, 60, of Carrolton, north of Dallas, told the Associated Press. (MSNBC)

update: Although this is un-confirmed Sky News just reported from a phone interview that the cause might have been due to the rear tail (the fin at the back of the air-craft) coming off, and causing the subsequent disaster.

Update: There has been no official confirmation of the disaster. Nasa lost touch with the shuttle above Texas. A Nasa spokesman said: "It appears there has been a catastrophic technical failure." It was the 113th shuttle mission. (Sky News)

A Bush administration spokesman said the shuttle's altitude -- over 200,000 feet -- made it "highly unlikely" that the shuttle fell victim to a terrorist act. Police in Nacogdoches, Texas, reported "numerous pieces of debris" both inside the city limits and in Nacogdoches County. Sowell said officers and city and county employees were being dispatched to stand by the debris until the arrival of FBI and NASA representatives. The debris field is believed to be very large. (CNN)

Update: Reports are coming in about debris including some found on Interstate 45 between Dallas and Houston. Debris from the craft fell in Texas and Oklahoma with one report saying a large piece hit a Texan bank. (Sky News)

Here's something to mess with your brains...

The NOAA radar (weather) for Texas:

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/radar/latest.../si.kshv.shtml

February 1st, 2003	#1 (permalink)
Pro_D Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arizona/us Posts: 41	Space shuttle burned up on re-entry! Space shuttle burn up on re-entry, nasa to have some words on it at 9:30, my time or 11:30 their time (I am -7gmt), if ya got cnn or any other major news channel take a gander. Right now they know basicaly nothing, will edit with more info... edit: www.cnn.com has information litering their site and likely updated rapidly if you don't have cnn as a channel. final edit: They say (before anouncement) that the burn up was likely due to a part, probobly a heat tile from near/on the wing, falling off during take off. They pretty much rejected the likelyness of terrorism btw due to lack of evidence, also no one had yet claimed responsibility. Bits of the shuttle are now scattered across a city and outlying areas in texas. Im gonna go offline now, keep an eye on cnn or your favorite large news channel for further info (I am gonna be watching cnn a bit and fox news channel a bunch). __________________ ...? Art: Anything manmade that makes you feal something positive or negative. It speaks to you... Effective/Good Art: Art that speaks to a large group of people... Last edited by Pro_D; February 1st, 2003 at 15:42.

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Strider Living Paradigm Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 10,224	>I still can't believe they actually considered (or thought of) this being a terrorist act. Missles can't even reach that high... same here, thats exactly what i thought when i saw this... first off, if they sabotaged it before takeoff, somebody would have known, they always have a group of technicians making maintenance checks on everything and they have several dozen scientists there too, i think it would be pretty hard to rip off a few screws of a tile without being seen, second, once it launched, it lost that plate, thats a very good explanation as to why it would have burned up, third, while its in space, there is NO way any terrorist would be able to get it, try throwing a grenade through the ionosphere , lastly, while going down, i doubt even 1000 taliban with ak47s and rpgs would be able to hit it, not to mention the fact that 1,000 taliban seen anywhere in america shooting guns at a shuttle would be arrested, they wouldnt even be able form a crowd without arousing suspicion, not to mention getting that many guns __________________ My Deviant Art

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Prafull Administrator, PCSX2 tester Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: India Posts: 676	I have been watching all the news live on my tv. Its really sad. Another setback for science . Too bad there was an Indian "kalpana chawla" onboard. We lost a very promising young scientist. :sad: __________________ E6750, Abit ip35E, XFX 8600GT 256 MB DDR3, Transcend 2GB DDR2 800 RAM

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moomoomoo Administrator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK Posts: 839	yea, the whole thing sucks... apparently the Indian astronaught was trying to make the youth of India interested in Science...

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Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Aye, they announced a news bulleting while I was watching Columbo, so I've been watching BBC News 24 hence. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

February 1st, 2003	#11 (permalink)
moomoomoo Administrator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK Posts: 839	yea, I think I've got mixed up between those two countries... There's a clip on TV now of it breaking up... I guess it's a pretty big set-back from NASA as well... There were 7 people on-board :S Kane, see the first ever episode of Red dwarf on TV the other night?

February 1st, 2003	#12 (permalink)
Pro_D Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arizona/us Posts: 41	>I still can't believe they actually considered (or thought of) this being a terrorist act. Missles can't even reach that high... to make matters worse, just about every expert and most people on the news were saying that it was unlikely or probobly wasn't a terrorist act yet this guy comes on cnn and very assuradly pushes that it was terrorism since this being an accident was impossible. <shakes head> take your news with a grain of salt eh? edit: Kirby> keep a close eye on cnn.com's front page, they will have a live link to click when nasa does it's address, they moved it off 2 hours from the scheduled time at the last moment. __________________ ...? Art: Anything manmade that makes you feal something positive or negative. It speaks to you... Effective/Good Art: Art that speaks to a large group of people...

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Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,261	It is a sad incident no doubt. I watched that video of breaking of the space shuttle into pieces. I felt so bad. What would have it felt like if I was on that ship. Oh man. __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

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Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	>Kane, see the first ever episode of Red dwarf on TV the other night? I have it on DVD This was no terrorist act. It was an accident. Accidents happen every day. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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mikeshoup Emu author Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Englewood, CO, USA Posts: 292	This is pretty sad. They don't even know where it landed. Those poor 7 people. __________________ Awards stink like poo.

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moomoomoo Administrator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK Posts: 839	God... they're saying no one should touch the wreckage... I don't think people are going to be very inclined to...

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Pro_D Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arizona/us Posts: 41	kirby> I am hunting for live news broadcasts on the subject (that are free), I will post links in edits on this post... woah! here is a big one: http://broadcast-live.com/radionews.html there are tons of channels radio and tv to look at, broadband and modem speeds, This will probobly do it for ya. If I see something more I will edit it in here. __________________ ...? Art: Anything manmade that makes you feal something positive or negative. It speaks to you... Effective/Good Art: Art that speaks to a large group of people...

February 1st, 2003	#20 (permalink)
SkyeHack Cpl in U.S. Marine Corps Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Camp Lejeune, NC Posts: 2,175	Breaking News: Space Shuttle Feared Lost I would post this on news but its really important and needs your immediate attnetion!!!!!! On BBC World and CNN theres news breaking that the US Space Shuttle "Colombia" is in problems and possibly lost with all crew. Shuttle commander Rick D. Husband, Pilot William C. McCool, Payload Commander Michael P. Anderson, Mission Specialists David M. Brown, Kalpana Chawla and Laurel Clark and Israel's first astronaut, Ilan Ramon, were on board. The Columbia was the oldest of the Shuttle fleet, built in 1979. Below is a picture courtesy of CNN that shows debris from what can only be the shuttle itself. NASA has dispatched Search & Rescue in the Dallas area. NASA says a loud "bang" or impact could be heard as the shuttle re-entered Earth's Atmosphere, Re-entry is the hardest part of the mission where there is no margin for error. We will bring you more as the story unfolds Update: Ilan Ramon, a colonel in Israel's air force and former fighter pilot, became the first man from his country to fly in space, and his presence resulted in an increase in security, not only for Columbia's January 16 launch, but also for its landing. Space agency officials feared his presence might make the shuttle more of a terrorist target. View: CNN: Space shuttle loses contact http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/...g.ap/index.html View: BBC: Nasa loses contact with shuttle http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/2716369.stm View: Google News Stories http://news.google.com/news?num=30&.../> %2c00%2ehtml Update: The Space Shuttle has been lost to NASA, with the agency saying it "fears for the worst" after losing touch with the Shuttle 200,000 miles above Texas this morning. Seven astronauts are on board. The spacecraft was due for a sheduled landing at 2.16 GMT. There are unconfirmed reports that "multiple tails" or vapour trails were seen coming from the craft as it was descending over the US. A NASA spokeswoman said that "we have lost contact with the vehicle and the crew. I am sure that NASA is mobilising in the Dallas area. (Source: Sky News http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/...1078668,00.html ) Update: NASA, while not saying the shuttle had exploded, broken up or crashed, warned that any debris found in the area should be avoided and could be hazardous. (Source: CNN http://www.cnn.com/ ) Update: This is the most serious incident involving a shuttle since the 1986 crash of the space shuttle Challenger, which carried seven astronauts. Pres. Reagan cancelled the State of the Union address in 1986 on hearing about the Challenger disaster. The President [Bush] is expected to make an announcement shortly Update: One video scene shows what looks like debris falling to earth. It is feared that the Shuttle broke up on entry to the Earth's atmosphere when it would be travelling at 12,500mph. Video: Columbia breaking up in atmosphere (Sky News) http://www.sky.com/shared/videoasx/...31200-56,00.asx Update: Janet Smith-Bozart, who was driving near Dallas, saw what is believed to be the shuttle?s descent and described it to MSNBC. ?I thought at first it might be a meteor coming into the atmosphere and then I realized it was much too big and much too slow for that,? she said. ?Essentially the entire thing just broke apart and the whole thing just disappeared. ... Eventually it just sort of faded and there was no more contrail or anything.?Explosions were widely reported across Texas.?It was like a car hitting the house or an explosion. It shook that much,? John Ferolito, 60, of Carrolton, north of Dallas, told the Associated Press. (MSNBC) update: Although this is un-confirmed Sky News just reported from a phone interview that the cause might have been due to the rear tail (the fin at the back of the air-craft) coming off, and causing the subsequent disaster. Update: There has been no official confirmation of the disaster. Nasa lost touch with the shuttle above Texas. A Nasa spokesman said: "It appears there has been a catastrophic technical failure." It was the 113th shuttle mission. (Sky News) A Bush administration spokesman said the shuttle's altitude -- over 200,000 feet -- made it "highly unlikely" that the shuttle fell victim to a terrorist act. Police in Nacogdoches, Texas, reported "numerous pieces of debris" both inside the city limits and in Nacogdoches County. Sowell said officers and city and county employees were being dispatched to stand by the debris until the arrival of FBI and NASA representatives. The debris field is believed to be very large. 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