Must educate 3dmarkers...

January 30th, 2003

No matter how many times you tell them AF does not work in PSX emulation. They don't buy it. It's like...

Well it's like they don't want to hear it or somethen? =\

pete needs to go in there and set them straight

P.S. Kane you'll be happy to know your website was mentioned on that thread.

http://discuss.futuremark.com/forum/...0&fpart=1&vc=1

K.I.L.E.R · January 30th, 2003

Are you sure you are not arguing against Derek Smart?

-joke

**cooliscool** · January 30th, 2003

Hehe.. what a bunch of asses.

"A custom plugin by the name of PeteOGL!!!11 OMG!!!1 OMG!!!1 GIMME THAT EMU WITH 16x AF OMG!!!1"

:rofl:

January 30th, 2003

Petes OpenGL is r so l33t

**Kane** · January 30th, 2003

/me feels really chuffed.
'Kane knows almost everything about emulators'
Makes me feel all warm inside. Makes me feel that my site is actualy worth running.

**fivefeet8** · January 30th, 2003

hehe.. Me thinks about showing them some of my FF7 shots on my old V5..

January 30th, 2003

Considering how they treat 3dfx people there, I wouldn't fivefeet ^^ =\

Mr Urt · January 30th, 2003

what a bunch of asshats. I love it when people talk about stuff they don't have the faintest idea about like they're some sort of omniscient being.

Kraelis · January 30th, 2003

Sorry, but what's this about? I'm clueless when it comes to video cards (As my PC's too crappy to have one...)

**fivefeet8** · January 31st, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisRay
Considering how they treat 3dfx people there, I wouldn't fivefeet ^^ =\

*now I want to even more* I'm gonna post them later once I get my Internet back at home..

Badaro · January 31st, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisRay
No matter how many times you tell them AF does not work in PSX emulation. They don't buy it. It's like...

Actually, when I turn AF on using Pete's D3D I get some image improvements, it filters the image in a similar fashion to the "Extended" filtering option. Only works with D3D though.

Both shots below were taken with the same settings, and Filtering set to 0.

[]s Badaro

Shot 1 - No AF

Badaro · January 31st, 2003

Shot 2 - 16x AF

**Kane** · January 31st, 2003

Could you repeat the shots with filtering set to 2? I just had a thought.

Badaro · January 31st, 2003

Here they are. Both look identical, BTW.

[]s Badaro

Shot 3 - No AF + Filtering 2

Badaro · January 31st, 2003

Shot 4 - 16x AF + Filtering 2

January 31st, 2003

Yup. Anistropic Filtering was merely doing billinear ^^ You were just forcing the drivers to do Billinear by turning on anistropic. If that makes any sense

Badaro · January 31st, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisRay
Yup. Anistropic Filtering was merely doing billinear ^^ You were just forcing the drivers to do Billinear by turning on anistropic. If that makes any sense

Naa, I figured it was something like this. But I wonder why D3D was doing bilinear instead of aniso.

[]s Badaro

**Kane** · January 31st, 2003

>I wonder why D3D was doing bilinear instead of aniso.

Probs because anistropic filtering requires bilinear (at a guess)

Badaro · January 31st, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Kane
>I wonder why D3D was doing bilinear instead of aniso.

Probs because anistropic filtering requires bilinear (at a guess)

I don't think so, if that was the case I'd be getting the same effect with OpenGL.

[]s Badaro

**Kane** · January 31st, 2003

Hmm... good point.
/me waits for Demi to explain.
To be honest it's just an idiosyncrasy of the drivers.

January 30th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	Must educate 3dmarkers... No matter how many times you tell them AF does not work in PSX emulation. They don't buy it. It's like... Well it's like they don't want to hear it or somethen? =\ pete needs to go in there and set them straight P.S. Kane you'll be happy to know your website was mentioned on that thread. http://discuss.futuremark.com/forum/...0&fpart=1&vc=1

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cooliscool Natural medicine Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Redmond, Washington, USA Posts: 6,175	Hehe.. what a bunch of asses. "A custom plugin by the name of PeteOGL!!!11 OMG!!!1 OMG!!!1 GIMME THAT EMU WITH 16x AF OMG!!!1" :rofl: __________________ Fayt : Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 @ 3.06GHz (1360MHz FSB), 2GB Crucial DDR2-800 Dual Channel @ 800MHz 4-3-3-11-14 1T, 512MB BFG nVidia GeForce 7950GT OC @ 650/1600, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS, MSI P6N-SLi - nVidia 650i SLi, 200GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, 80GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, Lite-On DVD+-RW 16x w/ Lightscribe, Lite-On 16x DVD-ROM, Aspire X-Dreamer II case, Logitech MX518 Optical Mouse, Asetek Waterchill kit (distilled water + Red Line Water Wetter), T.I.M - AS Ceramique

January 30th, 2003	#5 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	/me feels really chuffed. 'Kane knows almost everything about emulators' Makes me feel all warm inside. Makes me feel that my site is actualy worth running. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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January 30th, 2003	#4 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	Petes OpenGL is r so l33t

January 30th, 2003	#7 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	Considering how they treat 3dfx people there, I wouldn't fivefeet ^^ =\

January 30th, 2003	#8 (permalink)
Mr Urt gone postal Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,569	what a bunch of asshats. I love it when people talk about stuff they don't have the faintest idea about like they're some sort of omniscient being.

January 30th, 2003	#9 (permalink)
Kraelis Fallen Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Moonlight Spire Posts: 1,393	Sorry, but what's this about? I'm clueless when it comes to video cards (As my PC's too crappy to have one...) __________________ --KrÆlis Cross Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur =============== Athlon 64 x2 3800\| Asrock ALiveNF6G-VSTA \| Kingston DDR2 1 Gb RAM

January 31st, 2003	#13 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Could you repeat the shots with filtering set to 2? I just had a thought. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

January 31st, 2003	#16 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	Yup. Anistropic Filtering was merely doing billinear ^^ You were just forcing the drivers to do Billinear by turning on anistropic. If that makes any sense

January 31st, 2003	#18 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	>I wonder why D3D was doing bilinear instead of aniso. Probs because anistropic filtering requires bilinear (at a guess) __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

January 31st, 2003	#20 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Hmm... good point. /me waits for Demi to explain. To be honest it's just an idiosyncrasy of the drivers. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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