Everyone w/ Windows XP...

andré · February 19th, 2002

If Windows asks u to upgrade to Nvidia drivers 2312, DON'T DO IT. I just spent 2 days trying to figure out why i was getting such piss poor performance in Max Payne. First i thought it was the new patch they released, so i reinstalled the original version, but i was still getting crap performance. then i thought it was the new sound card drivers...turns out it was the digitally signed 2312 drivers released for nvidia cards that windows xp prompted me to install. Now i'm back to the 2311's and Max Payne is running smoothly again. STAY AWAY FROM THE 2312's!!!!

edit: or maybe it was my Geforce DDR that just can't handle the updates anymore...but i don't think so...

**Raziel** · February 19th, 2002

I'm currently using the 23.12 that I downloaded from a site and Max Payne runs just fine,you should give it a try.
Oh and,never download any driver update from M$(unless you don't know where to get other drivers).

andré · February 19th, 2002

i don't know what was up, but as soon as i got rid of those drivers, Max Payne ran smoothly again. i think i'll be careful with those Microsoft Updates from now on. :eyes:

**Raziel** · February 19th, 2002

The only things I download from M$ are security patches(which create new security holes,funny isn't it?),updates to their progies I own,and Service Packs(SP1 for XP is gonna be big,an ISO of a beta version weighs a little bit more than 400Mb:eyes: ).

**Demigod** · February 19th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Raziel
I'm currently using the 23.12 that I downloade from a site and Max Payne runs just fine,you should give it a try.
Oh and,never download any driver update from M$(unless you don't know where to get other drivers).

Agreed. Never use any videocard drivers from MS. Always get your drivers from Nvidia or trusted hardware sites.

Esturk · February 19th, 2002

Microsoft WinXP Voodoo3 drivers don't have Glide support! How lame.

**Shiori** · February 19th, 2002

The last drivers that had WHQL certification were the 23.11s, right?

**Demigod** · February 19th, 2002

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Originally posted by Esturk17
Microsoft WinXP Voodoo3 drivers don't have Glide support! How lame.

AFAIK Micorosft supplies basic drivers for almost any hardware. As far as videoard go, most of them only have DirectDraw support. In other words, you're going to have a hard time running 3D APIs (Glide, Direct3D, OpenGL) using the MS drivers. Certain hardware work well with the MS drivers (soundcards, network cards, monitors, etc.) but videocards are not one of them (or at least 3D capable videocards).

Arpanet · February 19th, 2002

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Originally posted by Shiori
The last drivers that had WHQL certification were the 23.11s, right?

Yep.

Why you would download grfx drivers from MS in the first place is beyond me...

**Shiori** · February 19th, 2002

You mean me? I know better than to do that.

Rubicant · February 19th, 2002

There's a cracked Voodoo3 Driver for XP around.

It works quite well and fixes most of the bugs with the Voodoo cards.

Try looking for it, i used it myself.

Ninjaa · February 19th, 2002

DO NOT use WHQL certified drivers at all. They are generally non-functional.

**Kane** · February 19th, 2002

I used the 23.11 drivers, and they caused loads of Bad Pool Callers. I changed to the 27.42, and it is soother than a baby's bum

SadAngel · February 19th, 2002

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Originally posted by Lord Kane
I used the 23.11 drivers, and they caused loads of Bad Pool Callers. I changed to the 27.42, and it is soother than a baby's bum

yeah... the .42 rocks with my TNT2!!!!!!!

**Raziel** · February 19th, 2002

The 27.42 gave me some errors in Project IGI,so I went back to the 23.12.

average_guy · February 19th, 2002

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Originally posted by SadAngel

yeah... the .42 rocks with my TNT2!!!!!!!

funny, the driver i got for my TNT2 is 2.3.1.1 what hack is .42 ?

February 19th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
andré sakabatou_x Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: TEXAS (everything's bigger) Posts: 1,256	Everyone w/ Windows XP... If Windows asks u to upgrade to Nvidia drivers 2312, DON'T DO IT. I just spent 2 days trying to figure out why i was getting such piss poor performance in Max Payne. First i thought it was the new patch they released, so i reinstalled the original version, but i was still getting crap performance. then i thought it was the new sound card drivers...turns out it was the digitally signed 2312 drivers released for nvidia cards that windows xp prompted me to install. Now i'm back to the 2311's and Max Payne is running smoothly again. STAY AWAY FROM THE 2312's!!!! edit: or maybe it was my Geforce DDR that just can't handle the updates anymore...but i don't think so... Last edited by andré; February 19th, 2002 at 00:51.

February 19th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
Raziel Beta Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Nantes, France Posts: 6,150	I'm currently using the 23.12 that I downloaded from a site and Max Payne runs just fine,you should give it a try. Oh and,never download any driver update from M$(unless you don't know where to get other drivers). __________________ System Specs: OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x64 Edition CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @4GHz Video Card: MSI GeForce 8800 GTX Motherboard: ASUS Maximus Formula SE RAM: 4GB OCZ XMS2 PC6400 Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Last edited by Raziel; February 19th, 2002 at 01:01.

February 19th, 2002	#4 (permalink)
Raziel Beta Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Nantes, France Posts: 6,150	The only things I download from M$ are security patches(which create new security holes,funny isn't it?),updates to their progies I own,and Service Packs(SP1 for XP is gonna be big,an ISO of a beta version weighs a little bit more than 400Mb:eyes: ). __________________ System Specs: OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x64 Edition CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @4GHz Video Card: MSI GeForce 8800 GTX Motherboard: ASUS Maximus Formula SE RAM: 4GB OCZ XMS2 PC6400 Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Last edited by Raziel; February 19th, 2002 at 00:59.

February 19th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
Esturk Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,957	Microsoft WinXP Voodoo3 drivers don't have Glide support! How lame. __________________ Necrosaro: Windows XP Pro x64 Edition SP2 \| Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 4MB L2 Cache \| Asus P5K Deluxe, Intel P35 Chipset, Socket 775 \| 4GB Kingston PC5300 DDR2 \| Nvidia GeForce 8800GT, 1024MB \| Creative SB X-Fi Fatality Edition \| Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD, 150Gb, SATA, Western Digital WD5000AAKS, 500GB, SATA \| LG 16x DVD-RWx2 SATA.

February 19th, 2002	#7 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	The last drivers that had WHQL certification were the 23.11s, right? __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

February 19th, 2002	#3 (permalink)
andré sakabatou_x Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: TEXAS (everything's bigger) Posts: 1,256	i don't know what was up, but as soon as i got rid of those drivers, Max Payne ran smoothly again. i think i'll be careful with those Microsoft Updates from now on. :eyes:

February 19th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	You mean me? I know better than to do that. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

February 19th, 2002	#11 (permalink)
Rubicant Space Cowboy Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 349	There's a cracked Voodoo3 Driver for XP around. It works quite well and fixes most of the bugs with the Voodoo cards. Try looking for it, i used it myself. __________________ When Angels are forced out of Heaven they become Devils.

February 19th, 2002	#12 (permalink)
Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 0	DO NOT use WHQL certified drivers at all. They are generally non-functional.

February 19th, 2002	#13 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	I used the 23.11 drivers, and they caused loads of Bad Pool Callers. I changed to the 27.42, and it is soother than a baby's bum __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

February 19th, 2002	#15 (permalink)
Raziel Beta Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Nantes, France Posts: 6,150	The 27.42 gave me some errors in Project IGI,so I went back to the 23.12. __________________ System Specs: OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x64 Edition CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @4GHz Video Card: MSI GeForce 8800 GTX Motherboard: ASUS Maximus Formula SE RAM: 4GB OCZ XMS2 PC6400 Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS

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