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Old September 13th, 2009   #61 (permalink)
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So basically, guys are more horny and it's caused by brain differences?
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So basically, guys are more horny and it's caused by brain differences?
Testosterone hormone therapy is a much used therapy for underperforming sex drive in women.

There is a reason there is no "estrogen hormone therapy" for underperforming sex drive used in the medical community.

There are a number of interesting stories of what synthetic testosterone had done specifically to the sex drive of female Olympians in the 70s coming out of the eastern bloc.
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Normally I'd have a field day with this kind of thread, but now that I've moved back to Washington, I feel a bit more laid back on things. It's like my entire perspective of life changes over here as opposed to being in the dammed mid-west (if I would have stayed, I would never changed). So, to everyone's surprise, I decided to give love one more chance! After that, it's over and I stay single 4 life. I met a really nice physically disabled girl last night and I'd like to see if we can become friends not only because do we have many things in common, but she's been through the same s@#% I've been through in general. So I said, "Oh, what the hell? I live in WA now, the happiest place on Earth. Let's lighten up a bit and give it one more shot."

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Who knows? Maybe I'll get married...
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bsg i live in the mid west myself so don't go knocking around the belief system around here ok? as i said before im bisexual and with a male that really loves me and i really love him as well. dont worry we are both over 18th and we will both be 21 or over this month. i say love knows no bounds.
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bsg i live in the mid west myself so don't go knocking around the belief system around here ok?
Belief system?
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But when you create a baby, the baby is better off with a family than a single parent or two people living together.

Sure people (consenting adults) have the right to screw each other with impunity, but if a female becomes pregnant, vacuuming out the fetus and discarding it like garbage, or irresponsibly keeping the baby outside of a family is wrong. Society pays a great price for people's immature handling of sexuality, broken families, welfare, jails, there are a lot of severe consequences to sex outside of marriage and our culture pays the price.
I think you missed what I was getting at. I was simply stating that a "relationship" is not required for procreation, because it is not, in order to point out a part of the contradiction I was seeing. I was not either stating my opinion on that matter, nor giving reason to what I said. I was simply stating that it was so. If you want my opinion on the matter, I pretty much agree with you, but probably not to the same extent.
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kids created in broken relationships tend to be ****ed over by broken parents, seemingly because the broken parents are too set in allowing themselves to parent in a ****ed up manner.

Parents can be blamed for everything.

Osama was raised using the softly softly method, look what happened there.

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But when you create a baby, the baby is better off with a family than a single parent or two people living together.
I'll stop you there, because you don't know ****.

A child is better raised in a constructive, caring environment, 2 Parents ARE NOT required.... suffice to say, the most screwed up people have come from normal caring families......
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While I agree that outside factors do impact a person (one person raised in one environment will likely not be exactly the same in a drastically different one), and for for some this is more true than others, the very person themself is where at least, and I stress at least, half of the fault is at, not the parents, or schools, or news, or whatnot, though those can all have varying degrees of impact. It ultimately comes down to the person themself, and though some are, well, for lack of better terms, "pretty screwed up", maybe largely due to outside factors, for most cases (most meaning almost all), the person themself is where the blame is to be found.

Personally, I disagree with placing the blame, especially when it's used as an answer, so the above opinion of mine is, in a way, pretty irrelevant to me anyway.

Also, many parents ultimately want the best for their children, even if different things end up being "screwed up" in the end and/or compared to other people. There are parents that "don't care" at times, but they're not the majority. People grow through mistakes, and the world isn't perfect, so I consider such things natural, perhaps required even.

I get what you're saying, but yours is only one example, not the only or right answer. Each case is different. There is no catch all strategy to raise a child. Some may want a structured environment, and some may want more freedom. Some may want more care, and some may want to be tough and learn the hard way. It depends on the person, their own values, etc., etc.

Whoops, now I'm rambling on. I seem to be in the mood of "providing food for thought/other alternatives to opinions" in this thread for some reason.
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While I agree that outside factors do impact a person (one person raised in one environment will likely not be exactly the same in a drastically different one), and for for some this is more true than others, the very person themself is where at least, and I stress at least, half of the fault is at, not the parents, or schools, or news, or whatnot, though those can all have varying degrees of impact. It ultimately comes down to the person themself, and though some are, well, for lack of better terms, "pretty screwed up", maybe largely due to outside factors, for most cases (most meaning almost all), the person themself is where the blame is to be found.

Personally, I disagree with placing the blame, especially when it's used as an answer, so the above opinion of mine is, in a way, pretty irrelevant to me anyway.

Also, many parents ultimately want the best for their children, even if different things end up being "screwed up" in the end and/or compared to other people. There are parents that "don't care" at times, but they're not the majority. People grow through mistakes, and the world isn't perfect, so I consider such things natural, perhaps required even.

I get what you're saying, but yours is only one example, not the only or right answer. Each case is different. There is no catch all strategy to raise a child. Some may want a structured environment, and some may want more freedom. Some may want more care, and some may want to be tough and learn the hard way. It depends on the person, their own values, etc., etc.

Whoops, now I'm rambling on. I seem to be in the mood of "providing food for thought/other alternatives to opinions" in this thread for some reason.
Human behavior is basically determined by biological, psychological, and social factors. Among those three, there is no one single cause or determinant that define one's behavior or set of behaviors, or the whole personality system. Rather, the interaction of the three elements. This has been a heated debate of course, of nature versus nurture, but I personally prefer the interactionist view. A healthy upbringing of a child in a good conditioned family can bring about positive result and help the child become a well functioning individual with good ego strength etc etc. But do consider hormonal changes, social interactions with peers, coworker, neighbors, life events, and experience and so on. Even at infancy stage, the behavior of infants (how he will react to pain, how often he will ask for food, the reaction to urination or defecation) also determines how the parents or the significant others react to the infant. It can be seen as a complex reciprocal cycle of action and reaction.

I am not saying that being bad parents is okay, or being a good and caring parents are a waste of time. I have to agree to Lord Zedeck that we should not put the blame too much on parents. Remember that upbringing by parents or close relatives, or significant others in shaping a child's moral values is only effective until the a child's teen years. After that, as the brain grows complex and the cognitive process demands restructuring, the child will absorb so much from the environment and thus shaping his own ideas of moral judgements, and values. Still, good upbringing is very important in shaping the foundation or the base of sound reasoning and sound moral codes or values for further growth and development of an individual. I'm just saying that it is not everything.
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It's our life, and we all have the right to do with it as we so please (within reason). That in itself is part of the purpose of life. Perhaps to others with such similar views, maybe restricting yourself based on what's normal and what's the social norm, that the others are the "abnormal" ones as they're "not their true self" (not saying you are or aren't, since I don't know you, but I'm just offering an example).

Not everyone gives a crap about society, social norms, evolution, or whatnot. Maybe some people just want a happy life, and the rest falls into place/is irrelevant or only matters to a lesser degree. I'll agree that everyone has desires for others, but the reasons may differ. It may be because they want love (physical or otherwise), company, help through life (two people can more easily live than one can in some ways), a family, etc. Just because some may choose not to, for whatever reasons, doesn't mean there is something "wrong" with them.
but there are many ways in "mainstream" society that these free thinker types are made to feel alienated or looked down upon. And sometimes it's up to that person to keep themself reminded that there's nothing wrong with them.
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