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Old August 25th, 2008   #1 (permalink)
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Do you think suicide is right?

I was surfing a blog a while ago and there was a post on suicide and how it affected the lives of the friends and families of those that chose to commit. To my amazement there were a few comments on how the suicide was right and it was worth it as he/she is away from stress etc.. I was wondering what you all thought about it. I personally disagree as it's a gift. You don't exchange or kill gifts, then why this one?
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Old August 25th, 2008   #2 (permalink)
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Nope, a suicide is a sign of a weakness and cowardice.
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Old August 25th, 2008   #3 (permalink)
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Its absolutely wrong! Just think about the hatred and despair you'll leave behind for your loved ones! If you die by an accident, then you can't be blamed, but on purpose, no way!
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Old August 25th, 2008   #4 (permalink)
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Suicide is a wrong and a stupid choice. Those who are sad to the core and think about this option, remember: It doesn't helps. You'll just make your loved ones more sad.

You'll make the situation more worse for you parents and friends!
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Can't say if it is "wrong" or "right", because it is not a simple matter. I had a girlfriend that commited suicide 1 year ago and yeah, it isn't good when a person that you actually liked chooses to die. It was quite shocking, even if I didn't see her for almost 2 years...

But even after that I can't say it is "wrong". But yes, it is stupid. The most stupid thing that someone can do to him/herself.
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Old August 25th, 2008   #6 (permalink)
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Why anyone would chose to cease to exist is beyond me.

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Old August 25th, 2008   #7 (permalink)
 
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no i think suicide is the worst option that one can think off ..it would help no one

hell we have cases where some dude kills himself just because the girl he loved went away i just feel like laughing at those stupid dudes,they didnt think about the 20 long ****ing years the parents have fed them but they give their life for a girl that they would have met about a year ago
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Old August 25th, 2008   #8 (permalink)
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Can't say if it is "wrong" or "right", because it is not a simple matter. I had a girlfriend that commited suicide 1 year ago and yeah, it isn't good when a person that you actually liked chooses to die. It was quite shocking, even if I didn't see her for almost 2 years...
Terrible sorry...

Well, I'd say suicide is more like a human right. You are owner of your life, you do what you wish with it. Although a suicide decision sounds more like a mental disturbance and is generally taken when the situation is not good (and it's the mind that makes the situation good or bad). Like a biased decision, not a plain lucid one.
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Suicide is a person's choice. Its not a right choice, its a rather selfish choice.

However... euthanasia im not so against.....
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Old August 25th, 2008   #10 (permalink)
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Suicide is a sign of depression and despair. No matter how weak or coward someone is the instinct of survival is still there. When a man believes that things can't get better no matter what he does (sometimes this is true unfortunately) then suicide seems like the only way to "free" himself.
Keep in mind that everything is relative and what looks like a desperate situation to someone might be everyday life for someone else due to differences on their social, economical and generally their living ways. The world is different inside everyone's mind.
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I do think people has the right to decide over their own lives - HOWEVER, i think suicide is wrong, and is the easy, chicken way out.
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Suicide is a person's choice. Its not a right choice, its a rather selfish choice.

However... euthanasia im not so against.....
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Few years ago my friend lost his parents and sister in a car accident. He was so deppressed that he commited a suicide. U can bear any kind of situation but only if u have ur loved ones with u. Therefore if the problem is something like that, i'm not against it.
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I do think people has the right to decide over their own lives - HOWEVER, i think suicide is wrong
I understand your points but I found quite funny that both of you approve and disapprove the idea at same time...
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Old August 25th, 2008   #15 (permalink)
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Suicide is a person's choice. Its not a right choice, its a rather selfish choice.

However... euthanasia im not so against.....
Agreed, it's selfish, and can devastate the lifes of others. Euthanasia is only applied when there are no other options left than to truly suffer in a physical way, usually with suicide you run away from something mental.

In some cases suicide would be right though, there's a couple of people out there, but unfortunately they haven't considered it yet
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We should have a poll over at the bin on whether we should commit a community oriented suicide or not.
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Old August 25th, 2008   #17 (permalink)
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I'm always apalled by people who say that suicide is a sign of cowardice, stupid or something akin. Is it that we are compelled by law to live on till some random event decides to cut off our live? Is it that we signed a document when we were born where we stated that we should live to the utmost consequences?

The right to live comes with the right to die. It's nothing more, nothing less. Of course on a personal level I'm not one for suiciding, but I know that my circumstances are not everyone's, and as such the option should be left open for everyone to consider.

Moreover suicide is not an easy option. It takes a lot of consideration, and willpower to commit. If not, I dare you to try it. You can't right? You not only have to fight against your natural instincts, but against social pressure, your own prejudices and whatnot. Unless it is something product of a psychological unbalance (in which case it warrants psychological help), suicide is one of the most difficult choices to make in our life.
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Old August 25th, 2008   #18 (permalink)
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I think its wrong. Why? Because just because something is wrong now does not mean it won't get better later. Now you may say that in some situations this may not be possible but
A: you never know. Science advances everyday
B: it affects others, not just yourself
C: your perception of your own situation may be skewed because of illness, trauma or a number of other different things.

If you really need to do something drastic to change your situation there are always other better options.
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Old August 25th, 2008   #19 (permalink)
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i used to be okay with suicide, but as i got older i realized that its a very selfish thing to do.
IMO the only time its okay is if you have no-friends and no-family, and life is torture for you.

i get mad when people that have children and families kill themselves; it will permanently screw-up the minds of their family.
so basically its ending your life, and screwing up your families' life.

although i don't agree with people calling suicide "cowardice". you have to be pretty brave to kill yourself.
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Terrible sorry...

Well, I'd say suicide is more like a human right. You are owner of your life, you do what you wish with it. Although a suicide decision sounds more like a mental disturbance and is generally taken when the situation is not good (and it's the mind that makes the situation good or bad). Like a biased decision, not a plain lucid one.
I guess it is something more complex. I think that society plays a great role in the decision of someone to commit suicide. I live in a city that hold the records for suicide in the country, and this theme is very strong among the young. Some of them are so imbecile to even think it is something "nice". Like an "act of courage". I'm studing film making at the college, and almost half of the short movies made there deal with the theme of suicide. But not in an intelligent way. "Oh, look how cool I am, making a movie about suicide!"

At the same time, the people of this city are very opressive, always agressive towards strangers. They think they're superior because their skin is whiter, that their eyes are lighter and have some unpronounciable surname, so some people can't bear this idiocy and die.

Opression from society, weak family bonds, not having trusting friends, drug abuse and tendency for developing mental illness: these are the causes of suicide. But it is always a stupid way of dying, even if the person can't control him/herself.

If someone is really interested in this matter, i recommend reading Durkheim's studies.
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