Do you think suicide is right?

[Kazuya Mishima]

The problem with all those happy and positive thinkers is that even when there are lots of them in the world, suicides are happening in bigs numbers and are very real and should be aknowledged as such.

It's obvious that the current trend of positive thinking and trying to live for the community and your family and all the rest of good thoughts are not working. If they did then the suicide rate would be lower or even null. Their thoughts are useless.

So, positive thinkers, do you have another idea that could really lower the number of suicides, perhaps a real one this time?
Or should we stick to the current ones that keep the number of suicides on the rise?

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[MT]

Of course you should never promote suicide this and try to prevent it

I beg to differ.

I lol'ed.

I'd take the person to a psychologist or something. SUICIDE MIGHT BE A SYMPTOM OF MENTAL DISTURBANCE, the same way when you have ferver you probably got an infection.

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[SCHUMI_4EVER]

Originally Posted by Kazuya Mishima

So, positive thinkers, do you have another idea that could really lower the number of suicides, perhaps a real one this time?

Mass culling of people who display suicidal tendancies

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[mudlord]

Mass culling of people who display suicidal tendancies

Nice one Schumi Unfortunately, human rights groups will cry foul of that....

I lol'ed.

I rofl'ed, I like your sense of humour .

I'd take the person to a psychologist or something. SUICIDE MIGHT BE A SYMPTOM OF MENTAL DISTURBANCE

Indeed. Suicidal ideations can indeed be symptoms of a manifestation of a serious mental illness, and mental illnesses are just as important as physical illnesses.

[khelben1979]

I experience the whole matter like a big waste, definitely. Life should be a long process filled with intaking of knowledge and wisdom.

Sometimes when I read that younger adults take their lives, I can never understand WHY? I think that religion can have negative impact and that it sometimes can motivate a suicide, actually. At the same time as religion can have a positive effect and actually prevent suicide.

For me, being an atheist I never question my existence, although.. I want to see myself and other people as people who want to be part of the technical evolution. I get a lot of positive thinking myself when I think about new technologies and the amazing possibilites for the future which this brings.

I think that one of the ways to motivate another person to actually prevent suicide is when you're talking about cartoons, actually. Some people they want to, perhaps, talk about personal memories which is related to "real life situations" but I'm convinced that many people just would experience this as too heavy.

[Spyhop]

Originally Posted by mudlord

Incoherant? Well then, I will be extremely clear:
People here in this forum are very close minded when it comes to the notion that certain mental illnesses do play a role in suicide in cases. These illnesses can cause suicide for no apparent reason to others. And people then make unfair comments, because of this, or most likely, they just don't have a ****ing clue.

Just like retarded white supremists like yourself.

Is that clear enough? Or is it still obtuse, even to you? In the latter case, there is no hope then >.>

Where's mudlord's red card for this insult? I've received one for less. Or does coding a plugin grant immunity on this forum to say whatever you want to people?

And you're still not successful in linking white supremacists to this argument. You're saying people who are insensitive to mental conditions are racists. You're saying people ignorant to mental conditions are white supremacists but you still haven't explained how...then at the end of your argument you insult those who are asking for an explanation and then explain it should be clear when you really haven't explained a damn thing. We're talking about suicide and mental problems and you're going of on people for being KKK members.

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Originally Posted by Kazuya Mishima

So, positive thinkers, do you have another idea that could really lower the number of suicides, perhaps a real one this time?

What about a law against suicide? You get penalized for murder right? so why exempt those who kill themselves? Take away the right to proper burial or something that would discourage the already depressed suicidal person. Although, that may sound too harsh.

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[Linktothepast]

Here is an image of suicide rates in the world.



And here is the list of countries by suicide rate

List of countries by suicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Make what you will of them.

Fact is that you can see countries like Japan, Germany, France, Finland, Denmark , etc. high in that list. And countries like Azerbaijan, Peru, Jamaica , Georgia, Albania, etc. way down the same list. Now explain to me what kind of serious problems Japanese, Germans, Finlands, Danish people, etc.(countries picked randomly, ok?) have, and how easy is life without problems for Georgians, Albanians, Peruvians, Jamaicans, etc... Also Communist and ex - Communist countries are high in that list. Discuss.

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[Raefraction]

There is a lot of pressure on Japanese people to be clever and successful. Probably the suicides are mostly teenagers not doing too well in exams and business men failing at being money making machines.

The French are just overdramatic. It's a French trait!

It is easy to understand why the suicide rate is low in Jamaica! The Jamaicans are universally well known to be extra laid back about everything. If you don't get easily stressed and don't worry about life's problems so much you are less likely to be inclined to commit suicide.

Basically those people that worry and take life too seriously are more likely to become depressed and consider suicide as a viable option to solve life's problems.

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[Proto]

It is often the developed countries that have the most oppressive and inflexible societies. For one, Japan work and production oriented society is well known among the psychology community to provide one of the most stressful environments in the world.

Another option could be that caucasians genes have more propensity to depression and self destruction. The fact that Argentina, Uruguay and Chile, two Latin America countries with strong European influx have the highest suicide rates in south America doesn't help either.

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or simply that nobody knows about the crazy african who offed himself in the middle of nowhere

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Originally Posted by Proto

It is often the developed countries that have the most oppressive and inflexible societies. For one, Japan work and production oriented society is well known among the psychology community to provide one of the most stressful environments in the world.

You hit the nail on the head.

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Originally Posted by Raefraction

There is a lot of pressure on Japanese people to be clever and successful. Probably the suicides are mostly teenagers not doing too well in exams and business men failing at being money making machines.

Still, i would rather change the country i am living if that is the case instead of killing myself . There, problem fixed .

It is easy to understand why the suicide rate is low in Jamaica! The Jamaicans are universally well known to be extra laid back about everything. If you don't get easily stressed and don't worry about life's problems so much you are less likely to be inclined to commit suicide.

Yep, and what a lesson that is .

or simply that nobody knows about the crazy african who offed himself in the middle of nowhere

Or that their governments hadn't kept any data. It is their governments that don't care, not the rest of the world. And don't tell me it is because they are poor, since many poor countries elsewhere also kept data.

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[Proto]

Yep, and what a lesson that is .

It is easy to say it like that, but it's extremely difficult to change your view of the world once you reach a certain age or point in your life. Rather than trying to view this at an individual level, it would be better to think on society level changes and improvements, otherwise you aren't attacking the real problem.

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[Dennemark]

suicide is stupid. why end your life while you can make it better by going to work, getting a haircut and getting a girl ?

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Originally Posted by Dennemark

suicide is stupid. why end your life while you can make it better by going to work, getting a haircut and getting a girl ?

The endless cycle is that if you are frequently depressed you will lack confidence, therefore girls find you unattractive and employers will find you less desirable. An idea that would work if this society wasn't based soley on competition.

The only thing that should be enough to keep you alive is suffering in order to keep the people who love you happy. If you give up and try to kill yourself, making your family unhappy, then you are selfish and deserved to die.

[Kazuya Mishima]

Originally Posted by eyt

What about a law against suicide? You get penalized for murder right? so why exempt those who kill themselves? Take away the right to proper burial or something that would discourage the already depressed suicidal person. Although, that may sound too harsh.

It wouldn't work. They don't care about the world anymore. I don't think they'd care about what happens AFTER their deaths. That's why they want to commit suicide in the first place. They are already giving up their life and whatever comes after their suicide point

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[mudlord]

Where's mudlord's red card for this insult? I've received one for less. Or does coding a plugin grant immunity on this forum to say whatever you want to people?

YES, I DEMAND JUSTICE!

So yes, the admins do have double standards. Permaban me already! Sheesh! We have to let Spyhop get his own way, for he is so ****ing l33t!!!!1! I guess I have to try super hard to piss off bositman so you get your own way.

And you're still not successful in linking white supremacists to this argument. You're saying people who are insensitive to mental conditions are racists. You're saying people ignorant to mental conditions are white supremacists but you still haven't explained how...then at the end of your argument you insult those who are asking for an explanation and then explain it should be clear when you really haven't explained a damn thing. We're talking about suicide and mental problems and you're going of on people for being KKK members.

Or maybe you are just stupid

Lets put it another way, people here discriminate. There's the ****ing link. Discrimination. I think however, if we look it up in the dictionary, we will see your face in it.

[blueshogun96]

Suicide is for pussies. It's a sign of weakness and [sometimes] immaturity. It's like saying, "Oh man, my life sucks and no one understands me... boo hooo hoooooo! I'm gonna kill myself and send my soul to hell early...."

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