Do you think suicide is right?

[Naix]

Of course there should be a strong reason.Killing urself for lame reasons like "oh i lost my girlfriend" is stupidity and waste of life.

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Originally Posted by Vorfin

Naix he has a mac, do you really need to make his life worse?

[gamefreak94]

You were given life to live and you'll die when fate has it in store for you. Ending your life yourself would just be a waste.

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[Proto]

You were given life to live and you'll die when fate has it in store for you. Ending your life yourself would just be a waste.

For those who don't believe in fate or a superior being (including myself) the argument doesn't work.

Maybe because you always have the option when to die, but not when to live. You'll most likely think twice before you unexist yourself unless you have a very strong reason to do so.

Agreed. However, my point was not that suicide should be an option that should be as easily taken as what to eat for breakfast, just that it should be a freedom guaranteed to every human being, as important as the freedom to live with dignity.

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Originally Posted by gamefreak94

You were given life to live and you'll die when fate has it in store for you. Ending your life yourself would just be a waste.

Maybe suicide is a good way to cheat fate Wait.. Maybe those who commit suicide were fated to die that way... Oops... Now what ??

[jonc2006]

Originally Posted by Saddan Hussein

Wait.. Maybe those who commit suicide were fated to die that way... Oops... Now what ??

never heard it put that way before but ironically it is possible.

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[deamonhunter]

I believe that suicide should be a birth right just like freedom of speach
If you dont feel like living anymore then just dont
and about your loved ones they should come to learn to respect your choices no matter how wrong (from their POV it is )

as long as you dont take anyone with you in the process its fine by me

and regarding the whole cowardly bravery thing
actually it takes a real coward to commit suicide cuz its the easiest way out
why is bravery needed in such a decision ? if you know how u do it right this shouldn't take more than a second and...... bam..... its over
I'm afraid of needles ;but knowing it will only hurt for about a second or so makes the procedure way easier

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[Raefraction]

(I'm sorry if this is repeating what has already been said but I couldn't be bothered to read back through the whole 4 pages of comments!)

Suicide should be the right of every person but I personally think too many people turn to it too quickly as it is an easy choice. I also see it as a cowards choice. Only people too scared to face their problems make that choice. I've known people who have reached the bottom (lost everything that meant anything to them) but have had the strength to pick themselves up and make their lives better.

My other problem with suicide is the fact too many damn people use it as a threat to get attention. I've had too many friends call me and tell me they are going to kill themselves and when they feel they have had enough attention have gone to bed and apologised the next day. I've spent the night crying with worry and frantic that they will follow through gone round to see them. Why do such a thing to a friend?! Now that is selfish. I'm afraid these days I tend to ignore it and have grown a bit of a shell. If that is the only choice they see then let them take it. Wow... I sound really mean.

Of course, as others have mentioned I see Euthanasia as a totally different case. This often involves people who are not healthy, do not have any basic quality of life and are not likely to see a better future. This is not the same as some spotty 14 year old kid who thinks that they might have flunked their english exam.

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Originally Posted by Kazuya Mishima

But not all the ones who die from suicide are attention seekers

Thats what im saying, dying from suicide is proof that you meant it. Otherwise your just an attention seeker

[Kaizen]

Originally Posted by Raefraction

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My other problem with suicide is the fact too many damn people use it as a threat to get attention. I've had too many friends call me and tell me they are going to kill themselves and when they feel they have had enough attention have gone to bed and apologised the next day. I've spent the night crying with worry and frantic that they will follow through gone round to see them. Why do such a thing to a friend?! Now that is selfish. I'm afraid these days I tend to ignore it and have grown a bit of a shell. If that is the only choice they see then let them take it. Wow... I sound really mean.

I've never voiced such a thing to rl friends but in the rare cases I've talked to friends from the net about it I have always meant every word
(only 2 major times, both resulted in almost fatal hospital residency)

Even if it is a cry for attention, no well balanced individual would seek it so it's a valid action by the person to avoid major depression.

[Raefraction]

Originally Posted by John Aiton

Even if it is a cry for attention, no well balanced individual would seek it so it's a valid action by the person to avoid major depression.

I think, what I am trying to say is, if what you want is help rather than death then go get professional help and ask for help, rather than making your parents panic stricken that every time they leave you alone you may try to kill yourself. One day, you might be successful and there will be no-one there to save you.

Then again, if someone really really wants to die there are plenty of ways to die that you cannot be saved from so you can always tell if it is a serious attempt or not.

In essence I don't believe attempting suicide really helps avoid major depression it just gets you that extra help you should just have asked for in the first place...

This is not a personal attack against any one person here. I am sure there are plenty of people here that have thought about it once or even attempted it. I'd be lying if i didn't say I hadn't once thought about it as a teenager. Really it is a tool used by many introspective people that have an inability to really open up to those around them. If anyone thinks about such a way out think about the people who love you and go and ask for help first.

Alternatively, go out, enjoy life, and do something crazy, fun and out of character!!I find it much better medicine than a spell in hospital.

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[Emucase01]

suicide is everybody's right. it is not selfish.

it has to be our parasitic like primal quantum instinct.
even if in the circle of loved ones were meant sorrow in the end, in the grand scheme of humanity, suicide gives light to the idea that something is wrong in the environment, and on goes the trials and errors through human progression. suicide becomes a way to equalize and regulate the society through awareness in whats wrong. suicide levels on the rise, especially in military/vet positions. clealry there is something wrong. clearly people need to die. and if alot of people dont kill themselves alot of people are going to die for there planet anyways. for christ sakes theres too many people on Earth. you have republics like the U.S who will actually discuss limiting how many kids you have in this age.


i'll tell you im not saying that i wouldnt be hurt if anyone really close to me committed suicide.

all im trying to say is the RIGHT way doesn't exist. but the truth does exist, and our society, our religions, our agendas, our ego and entertainment breed suicide.

[Xblade]

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[chu tuoc]

To any of you say that suicide is coward that kind of think is full of prejudice and ignorance.Most of the case it is but not all of it.There are some circumstance that suicide is the best option for someone.The grandfather of my friend is a high rank officer of the old regimen.When they were overthrown he had to take his own life so that his property won't be confiscated so that his children (8 of them)can have a house and money to live.Yeah I now some of you may say that this is not a very desperate situation thing will eventually work out but none of you actually in that condition (me either it has happen very long ago before I were born ,I only hear about it) so that easy for you to say.There are also various example in history that someone had to suicide to show his responsibility for his action and I don't think that they are coward (base on their achievement I think they are much brave than any of you here)

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[Fadingz]

No, for most cases, suicide is not the right choice.
There are always some better choice then death.
If you make a choice other than death, the choice will lead you to a new path.
On this new path, there is always a chance that one may encounter a life changing moment if one looks around carefully.
The end of all the path is death, so let death try to get you! Why finish the path on your own?
Whenever there is shadow, just look around; there is always a light source, shining.

In cases that suicide might be 'right' morally, in my opinion, is in the events in which the physical body can no longer survive.
In other words, when one needs to kill oneself as nothing else but death is waiting for one...

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[TheCloudOfSmoke]

You have to understand the circumstances of what's going on in peoples' lives as to why they would want to commit suicide. Just like abortion. It's no ones business other than their own. Some people are forced to be here without choice and life for them may not be for them as they have hoped. People are not going to jump up and commit suicide for no reason. If they plan to do it, I'm sure that they have contemplated it long enough and thoroughly thought about it to make that difficult decision. Not everything can be fixed in life by emotional support or medical help to try to alleviate the problems that a person is going through. Punching in the time card is the only solution for some people.

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If I support the game company, then I won't won't be supporting the blank DVD business.

Decisions, decisions.

[Paratech]

I think a lot of you are forgetting that there are funeral expenses, others may incur your debt, people who depended on you are SOL, essentially you'll be dumping all your financial responsibilities on to a wife or other family member, leave friends and family feeling guilty they weren't able to save you, there may be spiritual consequences for the behavior, and no real problem is solved beyond dumping your own problems to your family and loved ones...

It sounds selfish to me. It's as if someone's saying they need to escape whatever they are dealing with and to Hell with the consequences or the effects it'll have on the people involved with my life.

It also sounds immature. Adults deal with what life throws at them, even some children battle death bravely, killing yourself because life is too harsh isn't a solution.

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[snickothemule]

In the end there are too many scenarios, too many factors and consequences to bundle our views of suicide into one particular instance. There are often situations where there is no hope, when all is lost. This scenario may not be common but it has and will exist to some degree. Then there are scenarios where the individual will take suicide as option to escape from pressures, depression or other detrimental factors to their mental, physical or spiritual health as a means for release. In some instances these people can be helped.

Of course these are two examples at different ends of the spectrum, however the case we cannot simplify our view on suicide and judge all those who have taken their own lifes in the same way. There are just too many factors.

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Originally Posted by Proto

Agreed. However, my point was not that suicide should be an option that should be as easily taken as what to eat for breakfast, just that it should be a freedom guaranteed to every human being, as important as the freedom to live with dignity.

You were forced to live your life to begin with, you have no absolute freedom on that. To exist is not a choice you made in your lifetime, so giving you the freedom to undo it all is a little bit unfair to whatever that is that created you.

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Originally Posted by Proto

For those who don't believe in fate or a superior being (including myself) the argument doesn't work.

I beg to differ, i believe in neither, and i still wouldn't kill myself because of this fact.

My mother gave me the life to live on this world, and be damned if im gunna betray her and take myself out of it.

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However, my point was not that suicide should be an option that should be as easily taken as what to eat for breakfast, just that it should be a freedom guaranteed to every human being, as important as the freedom to live with dignity.

I beg to differ.

I feel that the right to death, should be equal to the right to live. It is thier choice, is it not? In essence, if they want to die for whatever reason, no one should stop them, since its the person's choice. No one elses. Unfortunately, human attachment and emotion gets in the way of this, as feelings of guilt are forced upon others by culture, society, or simply the people who "care" about them. If they truly care, they will respect thier right to die. Its that simple.

Denying that right, is utter stupidity. If we are in a truly "free" world, should we be given the right to control how we live or when do we decide our life is complete? If someone only thinks in absolutes, is that a issue too?