Most difficult bosses you've faced...

fujita · January 10th, 2002

Hello everyone.
I've been thinking for myself lately, about the bosses in all the RPGs I have finished. It seems that some people have difficulties when facing certain bosses in certain RPGs. So, I would like to ask anybody's opinion about this. In any RPGs you've played, who is the most difficult boss to be defeated?
For myself, I'd like to say Indalecio in Star Ocean the Second Story. That man is one hell of an opponent.

Arpanet · January 10th, 2002

I haven't played that many RPG's, but that book thingy in FF9 gave me a bit of trouble. Tantarian, I think it was called.

EfrainMan · January 10th, 2002

FF9. Ozma. 'nuff said.

**Ryos** · January 10th, 2002

fujita: Do you mean most difficult bosses you HAVE to face, or most difficult bosses you CAN face?

fujita · January 10th, 2002

Hello everyone.
I mean, HAVE faced. It shows that the boss mentioned is very super difficult to fight.

EfrainMan · January 10th, 2002

Not RPG but worth mentioning: Carnage from "Maximum Carnage" Harderst BATARD I've ever fought.

**Shiori** · January 10th, 2002

I guess in Tokimeki Memorial you "play the role" of a high school guy..... so if that's the case, then Shiori Fujisaki is the hardest "boss" i've ever faced. Final Fantasy Weapons and Ozma couldn't hold a candle to this girl. Really. Once the translation comes out, I dare you to finish the game with her in less than 10 reloading of savestates/save games.

**Ryos** · January 10th, 2002

The samurai who you sort of have to beat to get the Murasame (there's actually a way around it, but I didn't know until after I'd taken the effort to kill him) in Live-a-Live was incredibly annoying. If you don't run around like mad, he can easily kill you in one or two hits. Esturk from DQ 5 also gets a nod for sheer amounts of pain (why couldn't he do that in DQ 4?).

Tony · January 10th, 2002

FF8: Omega Weapon. Spent an hour fighting him... literally...
haven't played FF9 yet...

fujita · January 10th, 2002

Hello everyone.
Well, I've heard lots of people talk Tokimeki Memorial. I'm getting interested, is that a game for PSX? Has it has an English version?
Back to the topic, I think Ozma FF9 is quite difficult too. But you still can beat him with certain tactics. Honestly, I have never beaten Indalecio SO2. Not the normal Indalecio, but the limiter removed Indalecio. I fought him with all my characters at Level 255, and he still finished my party in less than a minute.

**Shiori** · January 10th, 2002

Yeah, it's a PSX game (at least for 1 and 2, Tokimemo 3 is a PS2 game), but Konami has no intentions to port it to english. :sad: so the next best thing is a snes translation patch, which is currently at about 50% completion. Interested parties can follow its progress at the link provided in my sig.

of course, this entails the acquisition of a Tokimeki Memorial super famicom rom, which is still pretty easy to find.

**Shadow Lady** · January 10th, 2002

for the original question,
I think the most dificult in a rpg, is omega weapon, only one from 34 times I can beat it ^^

mmm...
for fighting games that akuma from Street Fighter Ex + alpha

**Shiori** · January 10th, 2002

pfft....just by modding the Bahamut card i can beat the crap outta Omega. Junctioning the right kind of magic also helps.

Nash · January 10th, 2002

It was Ruby weapon in FF7 I suppose...

**Demigod** · January 10th, 2002

Personally I had a very hard time with Emerald Weapon in FF7. I lost to him about 10 times straight before I finally beat him. The thing is, I had lost to him so many times that when I finally did beat him I wasn't playing seriously or anything. I was just attacking and casting various spells and he died. The second hardest was Ruby I guess, but he was more tricky than difficult.

I haven't played against Ozma in FF9 yet. Still, Hades (I think he's called) was a pretty easy optional boss.

Omega Weapon in FF8 could have been hard, except for Holy Wars. I just used it on myself and repeatedly used Renzokuken + Lionheart on him. That limit break is so outrageously powerful.

Hey, what about the earlier FF games? I heard the boss of FF1 is pretty hard (never finished the game myself), and the boss of FF3 was quite challenging. FF4 (Japanese/difficult version) also had a powerful end boss.

fujita · January 10th, 2002

Hello everyone.
When I was still playing FF7 several years ago, I really got troubles trying to beat Emerald and Ruby. I became very mad, and I trained my best characters (Cloud, Barret and Yuffie, of course) to max level. And trained my summoning materia to become master materia, so that I can do Knight of the Round without limit. After all that hardwork, I finally got to beat those two after several tries. So, I sit back and wipe all my sweat, satisfied.
But, I think Omega Weapon is a little easier to beat than Emmy and Ruby. Maybe it's because of those Holy Wars and Hero Drinks.

**Ryos** · January 10th, 2002

The final boss of FF1 was ridiculously easy, especially if you used Ryos' secret party of mass destruction (a fighter, two black belts, and a red mage). The final boss of FF3, on the other hand, was fairly difficult, even with the best classes available.

**liquid** · January 10th, 2002

hardest boss I've ever played against is probably one I haven't beat yet...that would be Ruby & Emerald weapons in ff7.

as for just a plain hardass game I would say the arcade shooter xexex (in MAME)

armedar · January 10th, 2002

Ruby Weapon in FF7, and the end boss for chrono trigger... I hated both very much so lol. I think the end boss for Grandia 2 on dreamcast was very very dissapointing... very easy to kill.

**Dark Watcher** · January 10th, 2002

Emerald / Ruby were simple once a pattern was established...just beat FF5.....as far as RPG's ..this guy (Neo XDeath)was one cheating bastard.....9 different target areas on his body...each throwing various magical attacks...and each one you kill makes the others attack more...once the last target is left he automaticlly casts Meteo and Comet back to back.... (That extra boss Cyberbot? was no slouch either)

January 10th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
fujita Tiger of Jiang Dong Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inter Galactic & Dimensional Center Posts: 964	Most difficult bosses you've faced... Hello everyone. I've been thinking for myself lately, about the bosses in all the RPGs I have finished. It seems that some people have difficulties when facing certain bosses in certain RPGs. So, I would like to ask anybody's opinion about this. In any RPGs you've played, who is the most difficult boss to be defeated? For myself, I'd like to say Indalecio in Star Ocean the Second Story. That man is one hell of an opponent.

January 10th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
Arpanet Powerslave Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The eyes of the night Posts: 1,812	I haven't played that many RPG's, but that book thingy in FF9 gave me a bit of trouble. Tantarian, I think it was called. __________________ -----------------------------------THE\|ALCHEMIST----------------------------------- P4 2.4C @ 3 GHz \| 512 MB Corsair XMS PC3200 DDR400 Dual Channel 2-2-4-5 Asus P4P800 BIOS 1010 \| WD800JB SE Caviar \| RADEON 9700 Pro 128 MB DDR a.k.a. Asfaloth. Batards unite!

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EfrainMan Scourge of the Seven Seas Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,339	FF9. Ozma. 'nuff said. __________________ Intel Core 2 Duo E6850, 4GB DDR2, ATi Radeon HD 4870 X2, Asus Xonar D2X, MSI P35-Neo2, Vista HP x64. Just an ol' Batard.

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Ryos Revenger of Vengeance Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,250	fujita: Do you mean most difficult bosses you HAVE to face, or most difficult bosses you CAN face? __________________ Sanity is overrated.

January 10th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
EfrainMan Scourge of the Seven Seas Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,339	Not RPG but worth mentioning: Carnage from "Maximum Carnage" Harderst BATARD I've ever fought. __________________ Intel Core 2 Duo E6850, 4GB DDR2, ATi Radeon HD 4870 X2, Asus Xonar D2X, MSI P35-Neo2, Vista HP x64. Just an ol' Batard.

January 10th, 2002	#5 (permalink)
fujita Tiger of Jiang Dong Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inter Galactic & Dimensional Center Posts: 964	Hello everyone. I mean, HAVE faced. It shows that the boss mentioned is very super difficult to fight.

January 10th, 2002	#7 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	I guess in Tokimeki Memorial you "play the role" of a high school guy..... so if that's the case, then Shiori Fujisaki is the hardest "boss" i've ever faced. Final Fantasy Weapons and Ozma couldn't hold a candle to this girl. Really. Once the translation comes out, I dare you to finish the game with her in less than 10 reloading of savestates/save games. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

January 10th, 2002	#8 (permalink)
Ryos Revenger of Vengeance Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,250	The samurai who you sort of have to beat to get the Murasame (there's actually a way around it, but I didn't know until after I'd taken the effort to kill him) in Live-a-Live was incredibly annoying. If you don't run around like mad, he can easily kill you in one or two hits. Esturk from DQ 5 also gets a nod for sheer amounts of pain (why couldn't he do that in DQ 4?). __________________ Sanity is overrated.

January 10th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
Tony The Whole F'n Show Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Between Misato's Melons...............Or Watering My Own............. Posts: 53	FF8: Omega Weapon. Spent an hour fighting him... literally... haven't played FF9 yet... __________________ Tony's Box AMD AthlonXP 3000+ 1GB PC2700 DDR RAM ASUS A7V8X-X Motherboard XFX nVidia GeForce 6600GT Sound Blaster Live! 5.1+ Windows XP SP2 IBM Deskstar 60GB Hitachi Deskstar 60GB

January 10th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
fujita Tiger of Jiang Dong Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inter Galactic & Dimensional Center Posts: 964	Hello everyone. Well, I've heard lots of people talk Tokimeki Memorial. I'm getting interested, is that a game for PSX? Has it has an English version? Back to the topic, I think Ozma FF9 is quite difficult too. But you still can beat him with certain tactics. Honestly, I have never beaten Indalecio SO2. Not the normal Indalecio, but the limiter removed Indalecio. I fought him with all my characters at Level 255, and he still finished my party in less than a minute.

January 10th, 2002	#11 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	Yeah, it's a PSX game (at least for 1 and 2, Tokimemo 3 is a PS2 game), but Konami has no intentions to port it to english. :sad: so the next best thing is a snes translation patch, which is currently at about 50% completion. Interested parties can follow its progress at the link provided in my sig. of course, this entails the acquisition of a Tokimeki Memorial super famicom rom, which is still pretty easy to find. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

January 10th, 2002	#12 (permalink)
Shadow Lady Advanced Newbie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Bogotá... not that it matters... Posts: 4,728	for the original question, I think the most dificult in a rpg, is omega weapon, only one from 34 times I can beat it ^^ mmm... for fighting games that akuma from Street Fighter Ex + alpha __________________ Main Rig: Pentium Dual-Core E2160 @ 2.3GHz -- 7600GT @ 650/800MHz -- 1GB DDR2-667 4-4-4-12 -- Windows XP Pro SP2 Collecting dust: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ -- ATI Radeon 9500 Pro -- SB Live 5.1 Digital -- 2.5GB DDR 2-2-2-5 Ram -- Windows 2003 server r2 SP1

January 10th, 2002	#13 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	pfft....just by modding the Bahamut card i can beat the crap outta Omega. Junctioning the right kind of magic also helps. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

January 10th, 2002	#14 (permalink)
Nash Lord of the Surgeons Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: North of the Russia Posts: 440	It was Ruby weapon in FF7 I suppose... __________________ Crash'n'Override!!!! occupation: LV2 scientist current status: still working on JENOVA-2 project.

January 10th, 2002	#15 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	Personally I had a very hard time with Emerald Weapon in FF7. I lost to him about 10 times straight before I finally beat him. The thing is, I had lost to him so many times that when I finally did beat him I wasn't playing seriously or anything. I was just attacking and casting various spells and he died. The second hardest was Ruby I guess, but he was more tricky than difficult. I haven't played against Ozma in FF9 yet. Still, Hades (I think he's called) was a pretty easy optional boss. Omega Weapon in FF8 could have been hard, except for Holy Wars. I just used it on myself and repeatedly used Renzokuken + Lionheart on him. That limit break is so outrageously powerful. Hey, what about the earlier FF games? I heard the boss of FF1 is pretty hard (never finished the game myself), and the boss of FF3 was quite challenging. FF4 (Japanese/difficult version) also had a powerful end boss. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

January 10th, 2002	#16 (permalink)
fujita Tiger of Jiang Dong Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inter Galactic & Dimensional Center Posts: 964	Hello everyone. When I was still playing FF7 several years ago, I really got troubles trying to beat Emerald and Ruby. I became very mad, and I trained my best characters (Cloud, Barret and Yuffie, of course) to max level. And trained my summoning materia to become master materia, so that I can do Knight of the Round without limit. After all that hardwork, I finally got to beat those two after several tries. So, I sit back and wipe all my sweat, satisfied. But, I think Omega Weapon is a little easier to beat than Emmy and Ruby. Maybe it's because of those Holy Wars and Hero Drinks.

January 10th, 2002	#17 (permalink)
Ryos Revenger of Vengeance Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,250	The final boss of FF1 was ridiculously easy, especially if you used Ryos' secret party of mass destruction (a fighter, two black belts, and a red mage). The final boss of FF3, on the other hand, was fairly difficult, even with the best classes available. __________________ Sanity is overrated.

January 10th, 2002	#18 (permalink)
liquid Ebichu! Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tampa Bay, Florida Posts: 2,089	hardest boss I've ever played against is probably one I haven't beat yet...that would be Ruby & Emerald weapons in ff7. as for just a plain hardass game I would say the arcade shooter xexex (in MAME)

January 10th, 2002	#19 (permalink)
armedar Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In my mind I live at the bottom of the sea. Posts: 267	I would have to say.. Ruby Weapon in FF7, and the end boss for chrono trigger... I hated both very much so lol. I think the end boss for Grandia 2 on dreamcast was very very dissapointing... very easy to kill.

January 10th, 2002	#20 (permalink)
Dark Watcher Coffee Demon Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Darkness, Unknown Posts: 2,896	hmm Emerald / Ruby were simple once a pattern was established...just beat FF5.....as far as RPG's ..this guy (Neo XDeath)was one cheating bastard.....9 different target areas on his body...each throwing various magical attacks...and each one you kill makes the others attack more...once the last target is left he automaticlly casts Meteo and Comet back to back.... (That extra boss Cyberbot? was no slouch either) __________________

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