Are we allowed to be excited about NullDC?

S.SubZero · August 25th, 2006

I was just glancing over the article on the front page and the screenshots and I was very intrigued. Are we permitted to discuss this emulator at all or are we not allowed to do that?

**refraction** · August 25th, 2006

discussion is fine, as long as it doesnt involve release dates and requests for betas

Hard core Rikki · August 25th, 2006

NullDC wasnt that mediatized, that's why.

Discussion is fine, as long as it doesnt include worship of humans, and love declarations.

**refraction** · August 25th, 2006

well it has its own forum now, so enjoy it there :P

**hushypushy** · August 25th, 2006

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Originally Posted by Hard core Rikki

Discussion is fine, as long as it doesnt include worship of humans, and love declarations.

yeah like the freakin' PCSX2 forum, man that is so weird. oh yeah, i'll move this thread into the new forum

**Yeloazndevil** · August 26th, 2006

about time a forum was made for nulldc

**General Plot** · August 26th, 2006

Man, this one rocks. I got a chance to play around with an early beta a while back, and NullDC is running things that even Chankast could for me. I'm glad to see a forum for it.

Coolsvilleman · August 26th, 2006

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Originally Posted by General Plot

Man, this one rocks. I got a chance to play around with an early beta a while back, and NullDC is running things that even Chankast could for me. I'm glad to see a forum for it.

do you mean could or couldn't? Looks like a very promising emulator. Ready to bust out my ol' DC games and run them in high res glory. Skies of arcadia looked awesome on chankast, maybe even better on nullDc.

S.T.@.R.S · August 26th, 2006

what a pity Chankast is not coming back. who knows maybe some day he'll be back again to finish his project. his Emu was fantastic and kept us busy for a long time but...

**General Plot** · August 26th, 2006

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Originally Posted by Coolsvilleman

do you mean could or couldn't? Looks like a very promising emulator. Ready to bust out my ol' DC games and run them in high res glory. Skies of arcadia looked awesome on chankast, maybe even better on nullDc.

Sorry, I meant that Chankast couldn't run.

And a note: Skies of Arcadia absolutely ROCKS on NullDC.

chane2k1 · August 26th, 2006

I cant wait for this emu. has anyone mentioned if it would support dual core, certain processor extensions or 64bit systems and if it does support dual core are the graphics loaded on to one core and the cpu loaded onto another much like pcsx2?

S.SubZero · August 26th, 2006

I'll be happy with "it can run games."

Just happy to see new life being breathed into DC emulation. I shall keep my fingers crossed for this one.

flowrent · August 26th, 2006

Is it possible they will optimise speed after the compatibility is satisfactory ?
A 3 ghz and a 6600 seems kinda high .

**drkIIRaziel** · August 26th, 2006

Speed is around chankast levels atm , some games run faster , some games run slower . It realy depends on the game and plugins used

note : an amd 3200+ runs at 2 ghz , not 3

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PsyMan · August 26th, 2006

As Razi already said, speed depends on the game and the plugins used.

The type of the CPU is also very important. Older Pentium 4 CPUs tend to perform quite bad even if they have a high clock rate. Newer Pentium 4 CPUs, Athlon XP, Athlon 64 and Pentium M CPUs perform way better most of the time.

For example,
Soul Calibur normally runs at 60 FPS
On a dual core Athlon 64 3200 (at 2GHz) it runs at 70+ FPS.
On an Athlon XP 3200 (at 2.2GHz) it gets around 60 to 65 FPS.
On an Pentium M 740 (at 1.73GHz) it runs at about 45 to 55 FPS.
On an "old" Pentium 4 (at 2.53GHz) it hardly reaches 40 FPS.
On a "new" Pentium 4 (at 2.4GHz) it should reach about 50 FPS (since most games perform better than on "old" Pentium 4 CPUs)

As you can see the results vary. Note that NullDC does not take advantage of dual core CPUs (yet).

El_Diablos · August 26th, 2006

can't understand: nullDC is ready and i can download it or it's on the WIP stages? ^^

JKKDARK · August 26th, 2006

It is not ready for us..

**General Plot** · August 26th, 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsyMan

As Razi already said, speed depends on the game and the plugins used.

The type of the CPU is also very important. Older Pentium 4 CPUs tend to perform quite bad even if they have a high clock rate. Newer Pentium 4 CPUs, Athlon XP, Athlon 64 and Pentium M CPUs perform way better most of the time.

For example,
Soul Calibur normally runs at 60 FPS
On a dual core Athlon 64 3200 (at 2GHz) it runs at 70+ FPS.
On an Athlon XP 3200 (at 2.2GHz) it gets around 60 to 65 FPS.
On an Pentium M 740 (at 1.73GHz) it runs at about 45 to 55 FPS.
On an "old" Pentium 4 (at 2.53GHz) it hardly reaches 40 FPS.
On a "new" Pentium 4 (at 2.4GHz) it should reach about 50 FPS (since most games perform better than on "old" Pentium 4 CPUs)

As you can see the results vary. Note that NullDC does not take advantage of dual core CPUs (yet).

Just to clarify on what PsyMan has said, by older P4's, he is refferring to the A and B class (400 and 533 FSB versions, eg: Williamette), and by newer P4's, he's referring to any P4 C class or higher (Northwood and Prescott), with the newest among them (Prescott) obviously performing the best.

chris-007 · August 26th, 2006

Let's wait and see, if it supports the MMU for Windows CE.

**drkIIRaziel** · August 26th, 2006

mmu is emulated (when using interpreter) , but WinCE games dont work.
Linux/Netbsd boot , but crash before the command line.

I plan to emulate mmu , but its not realy a priority for now

August 25th, 2006	#1 (permalink)
S.SubZero Vista x64 User! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 1,014	Are we allowed to be excited about NullDC? I was just glancing over the article on the front page and the screenshots and I was very intrigued. Are we permitted to discuss this emulator at all or are we not allowed to do that? __________________ -SSZ

August 25th, 2006	#2 (permalink)
refraction PCSX2 Coder $refraction's Avatar$ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 9,819	discussion is fine, as long as it doesnt involve release dates and requests for betas __________________ http://www.generalemu.net/ Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.4Ghz (425x8), Leadtek GTX 280 1Gb, 1.8Tb HDs, 2Gb Corsair DDR2-800 @ DDR2-1020 5-5-5-18 Dual Channel Dont PM me for help, use the forums, thats what its for!
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August 25th, 2006	#4 (permalink)
refraction PCSX2 Coder $refraction's Avatar$ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 9,819	well it has its own forum now, so enjoy it there :P __________________ http://www.generalemu.net/ Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.4Ghz (425x8), Leadtek GTX 280 1Gb, 1.8Tb HDs, 2Gb Corsair DDR2-800 @ DDR2-1020 5-5-5-18 Dual Channel Dont PM me for help, use the forums, thats what its for!
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August 26th, 2006	#7 (permalink)
General Plot Britchie Crazy Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 4,800	Man, this one rocks. I got a chance to play around with an early beta a while back, and NullDC is running things that even Chankast could for me. I'm glad to see a forum for it. __________________ Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 \| 2 GB PC6400 DDR2 RAM \| GeForce 7900 GTX 2.5 TB Hard Drive Space \| Windows XP Pro SP2 Official betatester of PCSX2 and Co-owner of General Emulation

August 26th, 2006	#9 (permalink)
S.T.@.R.S Survivor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Raccoon City Posts: 271	what a pity Chankast is not coming back. who knows maybe some day he'll be back again to finish his project. his Emu was fantastic and kept us busy for a long time but... __________________ Northwood Intel P4 2.8 GHZ; 500MB RAM; MSI nVidia GeForce 5500FX

August 25th, 2006	#3 (permalink)
Hard core Rikki Let's go! Come on! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Perpetual Hawaii Posts: 5,215	NullDC wasnt that mediatized, that's why. Discussion is fine, as long as it doesnt include worship of humans, and love declarations.

August 26th, 2006	#6 (permalink)
Yeloazndevil :3 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 10,147	about time a forum was made for nulldc

August 26th, 2006	#11 (permalink)
chane2k1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 71	I cant wait for this emu. has anyone mentioned if it would support dual core, certain processor extensions or 64bit systems and if it does support dual core are the graphics loaded on to one core and the cpu loaded onto another much like pcsx2?

August 26th, 2006	#12 (permalink)
S.SubZero Vista x64 User! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 1,014	I'll be happy with "it can run games." Just happy to see new life being breathed into DC emulation. I shall keep my fingers crossed for this one. __________________ -SSZ

August 26th, 2006	#13 (permalink)
flowrent European Citizen xD Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bucharest ,RO Posts: 334	Is it possible they will optimise speed after the compatibility is satisfactory ? A 3 ghz and a 6600 seems kinda high .

August 26th, 2006	#14 (permalink)
drkIIRaziel Emu author Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Athens,Greece Posts: 535	Speed is around chankast levels atm , some games run faster , some games run slower . It realy depends on the game and plugins used note : an amd 3200+ runs at 2 ghz , not 3 .

August 26th, 2006	#15 (permalink)
PsyMan Just another wacko ;) Join Date: May 2004 Location: In a weird room :\ Posts: 483	As Razi already said, speed depends on the game and the plugins used. The type of the CPU is also very important. Older Pentium 4 CPUs tend to perform quite bad even if they have a high clock rate. Newer Pentium 4 CPUs, Athlon XP, Athlon 64 and Pentium M CPUs perform way better most of the time. For example, Soul Calibur normally runs at 60 FPS On a dual core Athlon 64 3200 (at 2GHz) it runs at 70+ FPS. On an Athlon XP 3200 (at 2.2GHz) it gets around 60 to 65 FPS. On an Pentium M 740 (at 1.73GHz) it runs at about 45 to 55 FPS. On an "old" Pentium 4 (at 2.53GHz) it hardly reaches 40 FPS. On a "new" Pentium 4 (at 2.4GHz) it should reach about 50 FPS (since most games perform better than on "old" Pentium 4 CPUs) As you can see the results vary. Note that NullDC does not take advantage of dual core CPUs (yet). __________________ I'm not insane. YOU are insane... You are all insane!

August 26th, 2006	#16 (permalink)
El_Diablos iLLiDaN sTormRaGe Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ukraine, Kharkiv Posts: 382	can't understand: nullDC is ready and i can download it or it's on the WIP stages? ^^

August 26th, 2006	#17 (permalink)
JKKDARK Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 6,349	It is not ready for us..

August 26th, 2006	#19 (permalink)
chris-007 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: alpha centauri Posts: 76	Let's wait and see, if it supports the MMU for Windows CE. __________________ AMD Athlon64 (Newcastle) 2,0GHz \| ASUS K8N \| 1GB Samsung DDR400-333 \| Leadtek WinFast A6600 GT TDH

August 26th, 2006	#20 (permalink)
drkIIRaziel Emu author Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Athens,Greece Posts: 535	mmu is emulated (when using interpreter) , but WinCE games dont work. Linux/Netbsd boot , but crash before the command line. I plan to emulate mmu , but its not realy a priority for now

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