nullDC 1.0.3+Naomi input fix Released!

[Tree Dude]

Originally Posted by seam

yea i fully understand what your saying. i realize that as more things are implemented over time it will run slower. makes perfect sense. ive seen that happen in emulators ive used in the past, but the speed decrease for me with null is pretty drastic. 1.0 runs like 110fps+ i cant even play the games its so fast. yet with this version its way too slow. most other people seem to be having more success than me. just makes me think im doing something wrong, ha. anyway, maybe the future releases will work better for me like you said

If the game is too fast it is because you do not have sync audio turned on. There is a large performance hit with it (beyond that of the frame limiter), but it is the only way to keep things in sync.

Is the high FPS occurring with this on?

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[seam]

you know, im not sure. im at work right now so i cant look at it. ill check it out when i get home and get back to you.

[TheLostSkeleton]

Originally Posted by Tree Dude

Don't let the higher number fool you, a 6600GT beats a 7400 easy. Your CPU is definitely better though.

You must understand that as the an emu progresses it can become slower because more things are actually being emulated. A good example is Shenmue 2. It had many issue with objects and textures disappearing. So naturally it will run faster because those things are not being displayed. Now it is fixed, so it should be slower. It is just the nature of the beast.

Raz is working hard on putting optimizations in to get some of that speed back. I would imagine you will see an improvement in 1.0.4.

Well, actually, I get faster speeds in the newer nullDC and there's less graphical problems. But I can understand why that would be in future releases.

I remember being rather disappointed way back in the day when I could run Visual Boy Advance and get full-speed GBA emulation and then in the next release or two I started getting framerate problems.

[diablo2121]

Quality>Quantity

IMO, there's no use playing a graphical hodgepodge at fullspeed.

[seam]

Originally Posted by Tree Dude

If the game is too fast it is because you do not have sync audio turned on. There is a large performance hit with it (beyond that of the frame limiter), but it is the only way to keep things in sync.

Is the high FPS occurring with this on?

... well that fixed that problem, thanks for the help. at least i can play some games now on null 1.0. itll have to do for now.

[Zappatista]

Originally Posted by IronWolf

I've registered here to ask one question, how well is Shenmue 2 running on this?

Glitchy. Runs with a lot of graphical errors, at the moment. But it is playable.

[marcelo_20xx]

Yep, that P4's garbage. Slap in a Core 2 and watch nullDC fly

I had exactly the same specs right now, except my video is a 6600 LE (which is worse, I know). So I gathered a few bucks and I am planning an upgrade to my PC so what you recommend.

I was thinking in changing to the AMD's Phenom 9.6 Ghz Quadcore and a video of 600$us what you say? any suggestions? any feedback would be welcome.

[cooliscool]

Currently, Intel's Core architecture is superior, performance wise, than anything AMD's got to offer. My CPU is nicely faster than a Phenom at 3GHz (a clock speed which is much harder to reach on Phenom than Core), and it's the low end Allendale core, which only has 2MB L2, but high multiplier (9.0) due to the low 800MHz FSB.

If you aren't an avid overclocker, the C2D E8400 (3GHz Wolfdale, 6MB L2), costs ~$170 US right now. If you are, low end models E4600 (2.4GHz Allendale, 2MB L2) & E7200 (2.53GHz Wolfdale, 3MB L2), are $119 US and can both be very effortlessly pushed to 3+GHz with the right components and knowledge... I'm an overclocker, so I saved a LOT of money and got blazing performance when I built my computer to where it is now in early 07.

Aside from inherent multitasking improvements, more cores does not equal more performance. Applications have to intelligently split their workload into separate threads to take advantage of additional CPU cores. With that in mind, and you should know this, a dual core CPU at 3.0GHz does not equal one big CPU at 6.0GHz.

Either way, it's hard to recommend AMD right now.

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[marcelo_20xx]

Yeah I was reading some post and they agree that Core Duo are better in performance for games because currently not all games uses more than 2 cores right now.

Also I had a budget of 1500$ to spent in a Gamer PC so Do you have a good spec in mind for this price maybe thinking also in PSX2 emulation. I love overclocking too.

[y0ush4]

Strange none replied me :-( No one is facing a similar problem?

Btw i want to know if NullDc Naomi can work without any external Graphics card i mean i don`t have any external but its intel onboard one



please help me out buddies

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[IronWolf]

Thanks for the replies Gents

[Tree Dude]

Originally Posted by Zappatista

Glitchy. Runs with a lot of graphical errors, at the moment. But it is playable.

Your thinking of the beta 6. In 1.0.3 all those glitches are gone. I played through about 30min of Shenmue 2 with near perfect graphics.

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[Zappatista]

I played it in 1.0.3 too, and it was glitchy like beta 6. Strange...

[drkIIRaziel]

k, as the 1.0.4 version got delayed i decided to release the updated input plugin separately.
Naomi input update !(for vista/configurable input/games with non working input)

Just extract over the old one on the plugins directory ..

The first post of this thread is updated, as well as the thread topic were updated

[FoxSmash]

Originally Posted by drkIIRaziel

k, as the 1.0.4 version got delayed i decided to release the updated input plugin separately.
Naomi input update !(for vista/configurable input/games with non working input)

Just extract over the old one on the plugins directory ..

The first post of this thread is updated, as well as the thread topic were updated

I LOVE YOU RAZ!!!!,awesome emu.

[niuus]

Originally Posted by drkIIRaziel

k, as the 1.0.4 version got delayed i decided to release the updated input plugin separately.

Thx drkIIRaziel. Gives us something to use while we wait for 1.0.4 .

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[legend100]

Crap. I thought it was an input plugin for the "Dreamcast" version (so we can use gamepads). There's no way you can tell otherwise from the title. They really, really, really need different names - so we don't have to keep qualifying each thing by stating WHICH version of NullDC we're talking about. This confusion will only continue for the years these projects are active and probably beyond that. How about NullDC & NullNaomi?

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[Thaghost36]

Thanks RAZ!!!

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[Aquashark]

thanks a lot man! i hope everything went well with exams

the player 2 controls don't seem to work for me.. does it happen to anyone else?

[shogun_nihon]

The second player don´t work because the emu don´t handle it.

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