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Old December 5th, 2007   #1 (permalink)
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Compatability List for low-end pcs

This is my low-end pc compatability list. Of course this information may not be the same as yours. Some games support multiple save types. My pc is Intel Celeron M 1.30 GHz Windows XP with 256 MB of RAM. Please post additional information, but make sure the games where tested on low-end pcs. Also, please tell me if there is something I added incorrectly. Sorry if the list is not exactly alligned, but the window is too limited in space. Thank You.


GAME SAVE TYPE SPEED NOTES

Advanced Wars Dual Strike ? 100% Crashes at unknown point.

Bomberman EEPROM 64KBytes 100% Says it saved though didn't.


Bomberman Story DS EEPROM 64KBytes 100% Shadows Flicker

Bubble Bobble Revolution EEPROM 0.5KBytes 100%

Children of Mana EEPROM 64KBytes 90-100%

Digimon World DS EEPROM 64KBytes 100%

Dragon Quest Monsters - Joker FLASH 256KBytes 100%

Final Fantasy 3 EEPROM 64KBytes 100%

Flash Focus - Vision Training in Minutes a Day FLASH 512KByte 90-100%

Kirby Squeak Squad EEPROM 64KByte 100%

Mario and Luigi Partners in Time FLASH 256Kbytes 100% Crash at suitcase/save. In the beggining, the top is slightly cut off.

Mario Hoops 3 on 3 EEPROM 256KBytes 85-95%

Mario Kart DS FLASH 256KBytes 80-85% Static in sound.

Mario Party DS EEPROM 64KBytes 70-80% on Map, 100% in minigames.

Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2 - March of the Minis FLASH 256KBytes 100% Static in sound.

New Super Mario Bros. EEPROM 64KBytes 100% Static in sound.

Pokemon Diamond FLASH 512KBytes 95-100%

Pokemon Ranger FLASH 256KBytes 100%

The Legend of Zelda - Phantom Hourglass FLASH 256KBytes 80-90%

Wario - Master of Disguise EEPROM 64KBytes 100%
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How u can play ff3 with 100% speed. My speed when on the world map is juz 30-50%. In-battle it's full speed but in the world map and towns it only reaches at max is 60%
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Much of this speed is because of noticable frameskipping. I can play many games like castlevania DoS at 100% but so many frames get skipped, it's really not playable (I have a rather weak PC - Pentium4 3ghz, as well)...
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The only thing that will be different for low-end PCs is speed. But even then, you don't gain too much extra speed with a high end pc, gotta admire that No$gba works well on all types of computers...
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The only thing that will be different for low-end PCs is speed. But even then, you don't gain too much extra speed with a high end pc, gotta admire that No$gba works well on all types of computers...
yup youre right the speed is really not noticeable even in high end because the emulator is still in development so speed problem is not at all related to cpu but the emulation of the emulator.
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I got a amd Athlon tm processor 1.33GHZ and you play all those games a lot faster. I thought mine was a bit better than your's CMIIMW
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my pc is better than your and ff3, pokemon and castlevania are really more slow.....
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I've not tried a lot of games yet (mainly because I don't have time, or I don't like a lot of DS games). Anyway true 2D games generally run very well on my Athlon XP 2200+ (the bastard is just cheating, as you may know the real clock speed is 1800 mhz).
Super Robot W, SD Gundam G Generation DS, SNK Vs Capcom Card Fighter DS for example run at 100% with audio setted to 44100 hz (just SD Gundam suffers of slight slowdown during menu loading, with my settings, but I don't care).
I've tried the last Zelda (don't remember the full title, damned japanese, I bet that they are making a contest for the longest title), but I've heard that that game doesn't run at a constant frame rate even on fast PC (except for some point). It runs quite well, but the audio isn't good and in some point there is heavy frameskipping.
Anyway this is really an excellent emulator, also for its high performance with older PC, It really impressed me (I was thinking that DS emulation was something just for the fastest and newest PC until I've found this amazing program XD).
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I've not tried a lot of games yet (mainly because I don't have time, or I don't like a lot of DS games). Anyway true 2D games generally run very well on my Athlon XP 2200+ (the bastard is just cheating, as you may know the real clock speed is 1800 mhz).
Super Robot W, SD Gundam G Generation DS, SNK Vs Capcom Card Fighter DS for example run at 100% with audio setted to 44100 hz (just SD Gundam suffers of slight slowdown during menu loading, with my settings, but I don't care).
I've tried the last Zelda (don't remember the full title, damned japanese, I bet that they are making a contest for the longest title), but I've heard that that game doesn't run at a constant frame rate even on fast PC (except for some point). It runs quite well, but the audio isn't good and in some point there is heavy frameskipping.
Anyway this is really an excellent emulator, also for its high performance with older PC, It really impressed me (I was thinking that DS emulation was something just for the fastest and newest PC until I've found this amazing program XD).
really is not cheating is the amd clock rating system because in modern cpu the architecture has substantially improved so GHZ does mean nothing if you have benchmarked the cpu you would know that a 2200+ has almost the same performance as a pentium 2,2ghz. Like my mobile semprom 3500+ is even faster than a pentium 4 3,6 Ghz and only has 1,8 Ghz real clock. The 2D emulation can even runs smooth in a pentium 3 with 500 Mhz.
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Much of this speed is because of noticable frameskipping. I can play many games like castlevania DoS at 100% but so many frames get skipped, it's really not playable (I have a rather weak PC - Pentium4 3ghz, as well)...
Well actually, I have all my settings set on the best and I still rarly notice any frameskipping on any of the games that run at 100%.

Also, my graphic card is highly outdated. It doesn't even support most of the games that are released after about 2005. This may affect what my games show.
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i've tested diamond on my old computer 382mb ram and 800mhz (i said old)

i get 45% outside and 70% inside
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Celeron 32 bit 2.53 Ghz, 256 MB RAM, 64 MB Integrated Intel Extreme 1 Graphics

no chance getting ff3 to 100% even with lotsa lag

lets see...

Phoenix Wright 1, 2, 3: 90-100% (100% with some noticeable frameskip, all with sound)

SD Gundam G Generation DS: 90 - 100% (with sound, didn't get too far since i cant save oh well)

Megaman ZX: 100% (occasional noticeable frameskip, but overall ran quite well)

Jump Ultimate Stars: 80-100% (3d intro movie was 80, ranking results was 85-ish, overall was 95-100, frameskipping? definitely tho when its 1 v 1 usually ran pretty smoothly)

Super Robot Wars W: 90-100% (definite frameskip in battles, some on map o.O)

Digimon World Dawn/Dusk: 100% (some frameskipping in battle animations but thats about it)

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Yes, CPU speed affects the speed you will be getting on No$gba because I've tested on two pc's with different specs.
1st PC:-
Amd Athlon XP 1800+
1GB DDR333
Asus Nvidia N7600GS AGP

2nd PC:-
Intel Pentium 4 3.0Ghz with HT
1.256 GB DDR2
MSI Nvidia 7600GS PCI Express

I've tested them with three games, Pokemon Diamond, Final Fantasy III and New Super Mario Bros and the results as follows

Pokemon Diamond
1st PC:-
Outside: 50-60%
Inside: 80-100%
2nd PC:-
Outside: 80-100%(WOW)
Inside:100%

Final Fantasy III
1st PC:-
World Map:30-60%
Battle:80-100%
2nd PC:-
World Map:70-80%
Battle:100%

New Super Mario Bros
1st PC:-
World Map:30-50%
In-game: 90-100% with noticeable frameskip ocassionally
2nd PC:-
World Map: 60-80%
In-game: 100% as smooth as it can be

From this test we can conclude that ds emulation at this time does require a mid-class processor to work in full speed and I hope that in the near future, the developers of ds emulators can modify the emulators to work full speed even on old pc's like the amd Athlon XP or even Celeron processors
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I got about 30-50% in FFIII
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I have a P4 1.7ghz Intel Pentium 4 processor and 1gb ram but it aint genuine and get speeds like Pi-one with NO sound but on my bro's laptop which is 1.7ghz dual core genuine intel and 2 gb ram i get full speed with sound... clear cut proof that u need a good PC and even better that it should be genuine and not celeron or others...
It's weird still that even with such changes there can be variations... something is a miss
Can overclocking effect performance much?
Lol this is why this unreliable circumstance encouraged me to buy a DS (oh yes I did have one before)
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Bomberman DS savetype isn't EEPROM 64k it is EEPROM 0.5K, that's the reason why it doesn't saves if you have it in 64k ^^

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Ups, my mistake! I used the old version of No$GBA. For the new one, I got about 75-80 % in game, and 60-75 % in battle.
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then i am getting much worse than u are... in the new version
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Xenosaga 1&2 (J) EEPROM 64KBytes 100%
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