Bugs, glitches and problems reports (no$gba v2.4d)

Grzeslav · August 24th, 2007

I believe that no$gba Author will take a look at this thread...
I think it is a good idea to show a problem not only write about it, that's why I've recorded short videos. Let's make this topic helpful for Mr. Korth

Let me start with Lunar Genesis game. It has buggy sound and displaying problems in battles. See below:

more to come...

=]Empi3[= · August 24th, 2007

uuu. nice game. i'll BUY it soon xD. Anyway. that buggy sound is in most games i played.. here winamp comes into play =]

sigmax · August 24th, 2007

=]Empi3[= READ THE RULES

The concept sound interesting but i'm lazy those days

ShakirMole · August 24th, 2007

lol pirater hehe. Don't say so but give a ambiguous opinion like me in my location

Dualscreenman · August 24th, 2007

The sound issues are being caused by the fact that the game isn't running at full speed. It's impossible for the emulator to sync sound if it isn't running full speed, and as a result you get crackles.

In short, don't expect good sound for the games that don't run at full speed.

=]Empi3[= · August 24th, 2007

i found only 1 game where the sound was perfect. Pokemon Diamond =P I hate midi anyway... a volume control would be useful.. so i can put No$gba to minimum volume and open winamp hehe XD

Dualscreenman · August 24th, 2007

You can turn sound emulation off in the options menu.
Oh, and sound is pretty much perfect in Sonic Rush, Yoshi's Island, and some others that I can't remember right now. Possibly NSMB on faster computers.

=]Empi3[= · August 24th, 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dualscreenman

You can turn sound emulation off in the options menu.

not in pokemon diamond. if you turn off the sound the game will crash during battle.

iurkin · August 24th, 2007

Or you can just mute the speakers.

Grzeslav · August 24th, 2007

To the posters above: You are not helping me... this thread has different purpose. Stop this OFFTOP please. Thanks

Spyro- Shadow Legacy has got some serious strange gfx bugs...

Next is very common transparency bug. (Mario & Luigi Partners in Time here)

SCHUMI-4-EVA · August 24th, 2007

Well I aint posting any videos (don't have the bandwidth to upload them)....but I have listed major bugs quite a few times before on other threads, so Martin Korth can fine them if he needs to.

There are only a few actual bugs. The strange stretched 3D objects which some games have, the flickering which can be seen in Sprung and Clubhouse Games, the ghosting from Spyro and Xaolin Showdown, the super slow loading from Wario and the few crashes and unsupported games.

Almost everything else is related to missing 3D (which is obviously because the emulator is still under eraly development), the transparency issue (which I think also cause major slow downs), or your hardware just not being strong enough to run the emu fast enough (every sound issue, even the strange sound duplication which some games have).

Well I suppose the transparency thing is also a bug...but it's present in lot's of games, which indicates more to me that it's something that's just not complete yet.

maximumrisk2004 · August 24th, 2007

Sorry to disapoint you, but this thread will not help Martin at all. He doesnt have the bandwith to load this videos and as he said, it doesnt help him when you say how the bug is. He needs the Info from the Debugger version of the Emulator which almost nobody of us has.

Grzeslav · August 24th, 2007

I see...
Well that's okay. At least I've learned how to record videos(or rather capture screen). Oh and imo small bandwidth is not that big problem... My connection is really slow(160kbps) and I have only 7kbps of uploading speed yet I live somehow

Peace

Dualscreenman · August 24th, 2007

Dial Up has 3 kb/s down and 1 kb/s up, which is what Martin has.

What video capture software was that?

Grzeslav · August 24th, 2007

Camtasia Studio 4 Like it

SCHUMI-4-EVA · August 24th, 2007

I have 30 upload speed and 50 download speed....but my connection is capped every month at 3GB, and for some strange reason if I watch flash videos (even small ones) it takes a huge chunk of that, same goes for uploading.

=]Empi3[= · August 25th, 2007

nice offtop =P
anyway... lets make a list of games that aint working well for some reason. that would be fun =]

SCHUMI-4-EVA · August 25th, 2007

That would be completely pointless....

It would make more sense to just list all the games that work perfectly....but this too is dependant on your PC...so it's actually pointless aswell.

Seriously we have done all we can until there are some more graphical improvements.

maximumrisk2004 · August 26th, 2007

Your right Schumi.
If somebody cares to help, donate for the No$GBA project and get the Debugversion with what you could give valuable informations. Is here somebody who has it?

RockmanForte · August 26th, 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximumrisk2004

Your right Schumi.
If somebody cares to help, donate for the No$GBA project and get the Debugversion with what you could give valuable informations. Is here somebody who has it?

Yeah, there are. Didn't you read the changelog ?

Quote:

- debug/vramviewer: oam viewer supports extended obj palettes (thanks pierre)

Obvious, pierre has a debug version. I have no idea where to find him.

August 24th, 2007	#1 (permalink)
Grzeslav Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 106	Bugs, glitches and problems reports (no$gba v2.4d) I believe that no$gba Author will take a look at this thread... I think it is a good idea to show a problem not only write about it, that's why I've recorded short videos. Let's make this topic helpful for Mr. Korth Let me start with Lunar Genesis game. It has buggy sound and displaying problems in battles. See below: more to come... __________________ Intel Core2Duo e8200@2,66 Galaxy 8800GT 512 2x250Gb Seagate Raid0 Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R rev.2.1 2x1Gb Geil PC800 Ultra Windows Vista 32bit 3dMark06 score: 10806

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=]Empi3[= CTC - Anti-Toy Movement! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 50	uuu. nice game. i'll BUY it soon xD. Anyway. that buggy sound is in most games i played.. here winamp comes into play =] __________________ My PC Specs ^Here^ [on XFire =] Last edited by =]Empi3[=; August 24th, 2007 at 12:44.

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sigmax ビターバージン Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dominican Republic(ドミニカ共和国) Posts: 1,240	=]Empi3[= READ THE RULES The concept sound interesting but i'm lazy those days __________________ "La vida es bella no la desperdicies" シグマクス

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August 24th, 2007	#6 (permalink)
=]Empi3[= CTC - Anti-Toy Movement! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 50	i found only 1 game where the sound was perfect. Pokemon Diamond =P I hate midi anyway... a volume control would be useful.. so i can put No$gba to minimum volume and open winamp hehe XD __________________ My PC Specs ^Here^ [on XFire =]

August 24th, 2007	#5 (permalink)
Dualscreenman DS Cheat Code Hacker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Hampshire, USA Posts: 677	The sound issues are being caused by the fact that the game isn't running at full speed. It's impossible for the emulator to sync sound if it isn't running full speed, and as a result you get crackles. In short, don't expect good sound for the games that don't run at full speed.

August 24th, 2007	#7 (permalink)
Dualscreenman DS Cheat Code Hacker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Hampshire, USA Posts: 677	You can turn sound emulation off in the options menu. Oh, and sound is pretty much perfect in Sonic Rush, Yoshi's Island, and some others that I can't remember right now. Possibly NSMB on faster computers.

August 24th, 2007	#9 (permalink)
iurkin Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Israel Posts: 15	Or you can just mute the speakers.

August 24th, 2007	#10 (permalink)
Grzeslav Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 106	To the posters above: You are not helping me... this thread has different purpose. Stop this OFFTOP please. Thanks Spyro- Shadow Legacy has got some serious strange gfx bugs... Next is very common transparency bug. (Mario & Luigi Partners in Time here) __________________ Intel Core2Duo e8200@2,66 Galaxy 8800GT 512 2x250Gb Seagate Raid0 Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R rev.2.1 2x1Gb Geil PC800 Ultra Windows Vista 32bit 3dMark06 score: 10806

August 24th, 2007	#11 (permalink)
SCHUMI-4-EVA Devastating Force Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Xenophobia FTL Posts: 5,054	Well I aint posting any videos (don't have the bandwidth to upload them)....but I have listed major bugs quite a few times before on other threads, so Martin Korth can fine them if he needs to. There are only a few actual bugs. The strange stretched 3D objects which some games have, the flickering which can be seen in Sprung and Clubhouse Games, the ghosting from Spyro and Xaolin Showdown, the super slow loading from Wario and the few crashes and unsupported games. Almost everything else is related to missing 3D (which is obviously because the emulator is still under eraly development), the transparency issue (which I think also cause major slow downs), or your hardware just not being strong enough to run the emu fast enough (every sound issue, even the strange sound duplication which some games have). Well I suppose the transparency thing is also a bug...but it's present in lot's of games, which indicates more to me that it's something that's just not complete yet. __________________ AMD Athlon64 3700+ (2.2Ghz rated as 3.7Ghz Pentium), ASUS A8NE-FM (OEM), 4x512MB DDR400 RAM, ATI Radeon X850XT (256MB GDDR3 PCIe), Seagate Barracuda 320GB SATA2 HDD, Windows XP SP2 Home, Leadtek Winfast TV2000 XP Expert, Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Value Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!! The Champ has retired, but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0

August 24th, 2007	#12 (permalink)
maximumrisk2004 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Guatemala Posts: 226	Sorry to disapoint you, but this thread will not help Martin at all. He doesnt have the bandwith to load this videos and as he said, it doesnt help him when you say how the bug is. He needs the Info from the Debugger version of the Emulator which almost nobody of us has.

August 24th, 2007	#13 (permalink)
Grzeslav Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 106	I see... Well that's okay. At least I've learned how to record videos(or rather capture screen). Oh and imo small bandwidth is not that big problem... My connection is really slow(160kbps) and I have only 7kbps of uploading speed yet I live somehow Peace __________________ Intel Core2Duo e8200@2,66 Galaxy 8800GT 512 2x250Gb Seagate Raid0 Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R rev.2.1 2x1Gb Geil PC800 Ultra Windows Vista 32bit 3dMark06 score: 10806

August 24th, 2007	#14 (permalink)
Dualscreenman DS Cheat Code Hacker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Hampshire, USA Posts: 677	Dial Up has 3 kb/s down and 1 kb/s up, which is what Martin has. What video capture software was that?

August 24th, 2007	#15 (permalink)
Grzeslav Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 106	Camtasia Studio 4 Like it __________________ Intel Core2Duo e8200@2,66 Galaxy 8800GT 512 2x250Gb Seagate Raid0 Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R rev.2.1 2x1Gb Geil PC800 Ultra Windows Vista 32bit 3dMark06 score: 10806 Last edited by Grzeslav; August 24th, 2007 at 20:17.

August 24th, 2007	#16 (permalink)
SCHUMI-4-EVA Devastating Force Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Xenophobia FTL Posts: 5,054	I have 30 upload speed and 50 download speed....but my connection is capped every month at 3GB, and for some strange reason if I watch flash videos (even small ones) it takes a huge chunk of that, same goes for uploading. __________________ AMD Athlon64 3700+ (2.2Ghz rated as 3.7Ghz Pentium), ASUS A8NE-FM (OEM), 4x512MB DDR400 RAM, ATI Radeon X850XT (256MB GDDR3 PCIe), Seagate Barracuda 320GB SATA2 HDD, Windows XP SP2 Home, Leadtek Winfast TV2000 XP Expert, Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Value Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!! The Champ has retired, but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0

August 25th, 2007	#17 (permalink)
=]Empi3[= CTC - Anti-Toy Movement! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 50	nice offtop =P anyway... lets make a list of games that aint working well for some reason. that would be fun =] __________________ My PC Specs ^Here^ [on XFire =]

August 25th, 2007	#18 (permalink)
SCHUMI-4-EVA Devastating Force Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Xenophobia FTL Posts: 5,054	That would be completely pointless.... It would make more sense to just list all the games that work perfectly....but this too is dependant on your PC...so it's actually pointless aswell. Seriously we have done all we can until there are some more graphical improvements. __________________ AMD Athlon64 3700+ (2.2Ghz rated as 3.7Ghz Pentium), ASUS A8NE-FM (OEM), 4x512MB DDR400 RAM, ATI Radeon X850XT (256MB GDDR3 PCIe), Seagate Barracuda 320GB SATA2 HDD, Windows XP SP2 Home, Leadtek Winfast TV2000 XP Expert, Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Value Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!! The Champ has retired, but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0

August 26th, 2007	#19 (permalink)
maximumrisk2004 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Guatemala Posts: 226	Your right Schumi. If somebody cares to help, donate for the No$GBA project and get the Debugversion with what you could give valuable informations. Is here somebody who has it?

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