NGZoom - Download and Discussion

Crystalis · March 13th, 2009

Took me awhile to find but after registering to a chinese site I got it, I think this might be the newest version to. As far as I know this is the first link for this from a allowed site.

*snip*
*snip*

Enjoy, do not ask me how to make it work, I am not sure how I did it for myself. Also from what I have read, and personal experience, if you do get it running it will instantly close itself when run a game if you have Vista 64.

GL&HF and if you find solutions to its Vista issues and instalation errors please post here. Finally does anyone know what this program does different that let's it fix some games that do not work otherwise like TWEWY? Someone please rehost somewhere that follows this forums rules, these are done with free accounts so they will not last long.

To the Mods: If this .rar is unacceptable please tell me what I can do to fix it, it sounds like this program can fix some of the good but nonfunctional games and I have not seen another functioning download link to it here

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Last edited by SCHUMI_4EVER; March 13th, 2009 at 12:42..

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · March 13th, 2009

Remove no$gba 2.6a. Provide only NGZoom.

I will remove your links for now until you reupload without the current donate-to-get-it-early no$gba version in the archive.

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Ignis · March 13th, 2009

I'm going to assume from schumi's post that this thing (alone) is legal. If it's not, snip it, all I did was google it.

NGZoom.rar

I don't care much for it so far.

Edit:
Ahem, I also checked it to make sure it was only ngzoom.

tom_mai78101 · March 13th, 2009

I went to check it out and realised that there are two new "surprises", those nuff said. I hope it's going to be added to the "External prgrams of No$gba" stickied thread soon.

Here they are, attached below.

NO$Zoomer version 2.2.0.0 (Zip file)
NGZoom 1.0.0.1 (7z file)

Already checked both of them, and both don't have the latest No$gba.

Attached Files

	NO$Zoomer2.2.0.0.zip (138.6 KB, 849 views)
	NGZoom.rar (1.03 MB, 1214 views)

Last edited by tom_mai78101; March 13th, 2009 at 16:46..

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · March 13th, 2009

Yes, alone it's fine.
Obviously a source would preferable to just a random upload (so that the author gets the credit he deserves), but I too have googled NGZoom and have not found a single link anywhere which was not either hosted on an illegal site, distrbuted with illegal material, or simply on a site going against the forum's rules so I understand and accept that that's not possible.

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tom_mai78101 · March 13th, 2009

Source:
<snip>
True source of No$Zoomer 2.2.0.0 Only contains email address links.

<snip>

I'm quite good with Chinese, but not good with Japanese, in case you don't know. NGZoom.rar contains two files, "NGZoom.dll" and "NGZoom.dll-old". The former is version 1.0.0.1, but the latter is version 1.0.0.0. So, I assumed the file I attached is the latest version of NGZoom so far.

Last edited by tom_mai78101; March 13th, 2009 at 17:03.. Reason: What am I doing...? For the sake of mankind?

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · March 13th, 2009

I just said that in this case a source can't be provided because they all either exist on a site which has links to roms or come with the current-to-get-it-early no$gba version 2.6a thus I have removed your links as they are no different.

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No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0

Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!!

!!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

tom_mai78101 · March 13th, 2009

Oh, I forgot about that. Going to edit it, since all sites have the latest No$gba. In that case, should we not care about the sources?

Crystalis · March 13th, 2009

Well with tom's links I will not repost unless needed, I am just glad that people can dl it without using translator sites to stumble around chinese sites.

Still wonder why this program makes some otherwise nonfunctional games work and why other similiar programs do not do the same. Would be great if myzoom or nds2x incorporated those differences.

Has anyone found a workaround yet to make NGZoom work on Vista 64?

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · March 13th, 2009

Nothing I know of, I myself can't get it to work either.

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No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0

Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!!

!!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

grfla2 · March 14th, 2009

Woah! This may as well be considered a spiritual continuation of No$gba.
It seems to fix quite a few emulation issues:
lost magic runs.
Luminous Arc doesn't have the enemy stacking problem.
Very nice.

Last edited by grfla2; March 14th, 2009 at 16:35..

imlost · March 14th, 2009

There is no NGZoom 1.0.0.1, at least none that I can find. There is one version of the program that I found yesterday which seems to be more updated than the one posted here. I included a readme file in the compressed file. Anyone who wants to use this program should look at the readme as well as NGZoom.ini file.

Edit: look at my other post here for a bit updated version.

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Last edited by imlost; March 21st, 2009 at 04:16..

Crystalis · March 16th, 2009

I feel stupid, turns out TWEWY works without NGZoom. The button that starts the game is in the top left corner, round, and completely blacked out to the point you cannot see it. All chat bubbles, people, and half of the cinamatics have the same issue. Sorry if this is what people meant by it not working, til now I could not find the button.

NGzoom is still completely nonfunctional though even after I made a batch file that runs it around 20 times during the game's loading with delays of various length.

__________________
The knowledge...it fills me...it is neat...
-Gir (Invader Zim)

Magic is the science of what is not yet discovered, understood, and/or accepted.
-Crystalis (Myself)

Smilley · March 16th, 2009

That was exactly the problem. You can't enjoyably play a game when you can't read the dialogues, navigate the menues or basically see where you're going.
On the matter of running NGZoom, you might be already aware that for unknown reasons it is unusable under Win XP 64bit and Vista 64.

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No$GBA Quick FAQ:
Q1: Savegame doesn't load. A: Set correct save type. Look here, divide by 8!
Q2: "Cannot Read Data" error A: See above!
Q3: Snapshots? A: Only work for GBA games.
Q4: NDS linking, NDS with GBA slot, Picto-Chat, trading, ... A: Not yet available.
Q5: When do we get a new version? A: We don't know. Martin won't tell.
Q6: Donation down? A: Yes, and we can't do anything about it either.
Q7: Game stops without appearent cause. A: Turn the Sound option on.
Q8: No$Zoomer fixes don't work. A: They do only with 2.6a.

Crystalis · March 16th, 2009

Yep I know and have informed others of it many times, but that does not stop me from trying everything I hear to try and fix it. The batch was just hoping to get lucky and have it run at the right moment

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The knowledge...it fills me...it is neat...
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Magic is the science of what is not yet discovered, understood, and/or accepted.
-Crystalis (Myself)

Ignis · March 17th, 2009

I didn't notice until last night, but its great that ngzoom fixes the FF4 text issues completely. Too bad it blows everything up so large that the game looks horrid.

imlost · March 17th, 2009

^Have you tried the one that I posted?

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Crystalis · March 17th, 2009

Yes I have tried every single one shown, every solution mentioned, and personal trial and error. NGZoom just simply does not work on 64 operating systems yet...chances are it never will. That is the only thing I hate about vista the compatability issues.

__________________
The knowledge...it fills me...it is neat...
-Gir (Invader Zim)

Magic is the science of what is not yet discovered, understood, and/or accepted.
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Ignis · March 17th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by imlost

^Have you tried the one that I posted?

I didn't until now actually, thanks for pointing that out to me.

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · March 17th, 2009

Thing is it's actually running...just it does not appear...or accept input...

How do I know this? I disabled desktop composition on NGZoom which disables Aero temporarily whilst the app is in use and it remained disabled all the while no$gba was in use after being launched with NGZoom (and it itself does not have desktop composition disabled on it) and Aero promptly was enabled again as I closed no$gba.

Vista compatibility is great in most cases...better than XP...and XP64 suffers from the same issues in this case.

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The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!!

No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0

Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!!

!!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

March 13th, 2009	#1 (permalink)
Crystalis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: USA Posts: 23	NGZoom - Download and Discussion Took me awhile to find but after registering to a chinese site I got it, I think this might be the newest version to. As far as I know this is the first link for this from a allowed site. snip snip Enjoy, do not ask me how to make it work, I am not sure how I did it for myself. Also from what I have read, and personal experience, if you do get it running it will instantly close itself when run a game if you have Vista 64. GL&HF and if you find solutions to its Vista issues and instalation errors please post here. Finally does anyone know what this program does different that let's it fix some games that do not work otherwise like TWEWY? Someone please rehost somewhere that follows this forums rules, these are done with free accounts so they will not last long. To the Mods: If this .rar is unacceptable please tell me what I can do to fix it, it sounds like this program can fix some of the good but nonfunctional games and I have not seen another functioning download link to it here __________________ The knowledge...it fills me...it is neat... -Gir (Invader Zim) Magic is the science of what is not yet discovered, understood, and/or accepted. -Crystalis (Myself) Last edited by SCHUMI_4EVER; March 13th, 2009 at 12:42..

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March 13th, 2009	#2 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,333	Remove no$gba 2.6a. Provide only NGZoom. I will remove your links for now until you reupload without the current donate-to-get-it-early no$gba version in the archive. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

March 13th, 2009	#3 (permalink)
Ignis Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 242	I'm going to assume from schumi's post that this thing (alone) is legal. If it's not, snip it, all I did was google it. NGZoom.rar I don't care much for it so far. Edit: Ahem, I also checked it to make sure it was only ngzoom.

March 13th, 2009	#5 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,333	Yes, alone it's fine. Obviously a source would preferable to just a random upload (so that the author gets the credit he deserves), but I too have googled NGZoom and have not found a single link anywhere which was not either hosted on an illegal site, distrbuted with illegal material, or simply on a site going against the forum's rules so I understand and accept that that's not possible. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

March 13th, 2009	#6 (permalink)
tom_mai78101 No$gba Philospher Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 373	Source: <snip> True source of No$Zoomer 2.2.0.0 Only contains email address links. <snip> I'm quite good with Chinese, but not good with Japanese, in case you don't know. NGZoom.rar contains two files, "NGZoom.dll" and "NGZoom.dll-old". The former is version 1.0.0.1, but the latter is version 1.0.0.0. So, I assumed the file I attached is the latest version of NGZoom so far. Last edited by tom_mai78101; March 13th, 2009 at 17:03.. Reason: What am I doing...? For the sake of mankind?

March 13th, 2009	#7 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,333	I just said that in this case a source can't be provided because they all either exist on a site which has links to roms or come with the current-to-get-it-early no$gba version 2.6a thus I have removed your links as they are no different. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

March 13th, 2009	#8 (permalink)
tom_mai78101 No$gba Philospher Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 373	Oh, I forgot about that. Going to edit it, since all sites have the latest No$gba. In that case, should we not care about the sources?

March 13th, 2009	#9 (permalink)
Crystalis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: USA Posts: 23	Well with tom's links I will not repost unless needed, I am just glad that people can dl it without using translator sites to stumble around chinese sites. Still wonder why this program makes some otherwise nonfunctional games work and why other similiar programs do not do the same. Would be great if myzoom or nds2x incorporated those differences. Has anyone found a workaround yet to make NGZoom work on Vista 64? __________________ The knowledge...it fills me...it is neat... -Gir (Invader Zim) Magic is the science of what is not yet discovered, understood, and/or accepted. -Crystalis (Myself)

March 13th, 2009	#10 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,333	Nothing I know of, I myself can't get it to work either. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

March 14th, 2009	#11 (permalink)
grfla2 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: That place in that somewhere. Posts: 260	Woah! This may as well be considered a spiritual continuation of No$gba. It seems to fix quite a few emulation issues: lost magic runs. Luminous Arc doesn't have the enemy stacking problem. Very nice. Last edited by grfla2; March 14th, 2009 at 16:35..

March 14th, 2009	#12 (permalink)
imlost 囧rz Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ??? Posts: 1,619	There is no NGZoom 1.0.0.1, at least none that I can find. There is one version of the program that I found yesterday which seems to be more updated than the one posted here. I included a readme file in the compressed file. Anyone who wants to use this program should look at the readme as well as NGZoom.ini file. Edit: look at my other post here for a bit updated version. __________________ How do I use an emulator? Last edited by imlost; March 21st, 2009 at 04:16..

March 16th, 2009	#13 (permalink)
Crystalis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: USA Posts: 23	I feel stupid, turns out TWEWY works without NGZoom. The button that starts the game is in the top left corner, round, and completely blacked out to the point you cannot see it. All chat bubbles, people, and half of the cinamatics have the same issue. Sorry if this is what people meant by it not working, til now I could not find the button. NGzoom is still completely nonfunctional though even after I made a batch file that runs it around 20 times during the game's loading with delays of various length. __________________ The knowledge...it fills me...it is neat... -Gir (Invader Zim) Magic is the science of what is not yet discovered, understood, and/or accepted. -Crystalis (Myself)

March 16th, 2009	#14 (permalink)
Smilley Hopeless Optimist Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Austria Posts: 1,045	That was exactly the problem. You can't enjoyably play a game when you can't read the dialogues, navigate the menues or basically see where you're going. On the matter of running NGZoom, you might be already aware that for unknown reasons it is unusable under Win XP 64bit and Vista 64. __________________ No$GBA Quick FAQ: Q1: Savegame doesn't load. A: Set correct save type. Look here, divide by 8! Q2: "Cannot Read Data" error A: See above! Q3: Snapshots? A: Only work for GBA games. Q4: NDS linking, NDS with GBA slot, Picto-Chat, trading, ... A: Not yet available. Q5: When do we get a new version? A: We don't know. Martin won't tell. Q6: Donation down? A: Yes, and we can't do anything about it either. Q7: Game stops without appearent cause. A: Turn the Sound option on. Q8: No$Zoomer fixes don't work. A: They do only with 2.6a.

March 16th, 2009	#15 (permalink)
Crystalis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: USA Posts: 23	Yep I know and have informed others of it many times, but that does not stop me from trying everything I hear to try and fix it. The batch was just hoping to get lucky and have it run at the right moment __________________ The knowledge...it fills me...it is neat... -Gir (Invader Zim) Magic is the science of what is not yet discovered, understood, and/or accepted. -Crystalis (Myself)

March 17th, 2009	#16 (permalink)
Ignis Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 242	I didn't notice until last night, but its great that ngzoom fixes the FF4 text issues completely. Too bad it blows everything up so large that the game looks horrid.

March 17th, 2009	#17 (permalink)
imlost 囧rz Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ??? Posts: 1,619	^Have you tried the one that I posted? __________________ How do I use an emulator?

March 17th, 2009	#18 (permalink)
Crystalis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: USA Posts: 23	Yes I have tried every single one shown, every solution mentioned, and personal trial and error. NGZoom just simply does not work on 64 operating systems yet...chances are it never will. That is the only thing I hate about vista the compatability issues. __________________ The knowledge...it fills me...it is neat... -Gir (Invader Zim) Magic is the science of what is not yet discovered, understood, and/or accepted. -Crystalis (Myself)

March 17th, 2009	#20 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,333	Thing is it's actually running...just it does not appear...or accept input... How do I know this? I disabled desktop composition on NGZoom which disables Aero temporarily whilst the app is in use and it remained disabled all the while no$gba was in use after being launched with NGZoom (and it itself does not have desktop composition disabled on it) and Aero promptly was enabled again as I closed no$gba. Vista compatibility is great in most cases...better than XP...and XP64 suffers from the same issues in this case. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!