[READ!] No$gba Frequently Asked Questions regarding DS emulation (No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0) - Page 5

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · April 4th, 2009

People really need to remember to look at paintings and TVs in Pokemon XD, if you look at the painting just before you leave your room then it would tell you to press 'X'.

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No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0

Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!!

!!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

MarkMarkMark · April 4th, 2009

Oh yea thats true wow i feel stupid...i even have the game on the ds....well thanks anyway

oh and i have a japanese version so i dont understand anything in the platinum version

gabbyrahwr · May 25th, 2009

okay - quick question .
i`m not sure if i missed this in the questions or not , i was just skipping around to find questions about saves .

but , how is it you save for DS games if you don`t snapshot them ? or can you ? o:

or would you just save ingame like normal , and when you load the cartridge , it shows your saved game like a normal ds ?

thanks . (;

Last edited by gabbyrahwr; May 25th, 2009 at 03:56..

Gamer3000 · May 25th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabbyrahwr

okay - quick question .
i`m not sure if i missed this in the questions or not , i was just skipping around to find questions about saves .

but , how is it you save for DS games if you don`t snapshot them ? or can you ? o:

or would you just save ingame like normal , and when you load the cartridge , it shows your saved game like a normal ds ?

thanks . (;

That's right, just like a normal DS. AFAIK, snapshots (or save states) don't work with No$GBA.

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imlost · May 25th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabbyrahwr

okay - quick question .
i`m not sure if i missed this in the questions or not , i was just skipping around to find questions about saves .

but , how is it you save for DS games if you don`t snapshot them ? or can you ? o:

or would you just save ingame like normal , and when you load the cartridge , it shows your saved game like a normal ds ?

thanks . (;

If you actually use the search function in this thread, or at least try using your internet browser on the first page, then you should know that snapshot only works for gba games currently. This means that you will have to use the in-game save function to save your game.

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Originally Posted by Gamer3000

That's right, just like a normal DS. AFAIK, snapshots (or save states) don't work with No$GBA.

You should read/skim this FAQ thread (again?). >_>

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · May 25th, 2009

Guys I really can't make this FAQ any more simple....just check the index and use your browser's search function (FFS I even explained that function)...

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No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0

Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!!

!!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

Smilley · May 25th, 2009

Asking in the FAQ thread about a question answered in the FAQ. A new low point of noobism. Sorry if this insults you, gabbyrahwr, but it's just true.

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No$GBA Quick FAQ:
Q1: Savegame doesn't load. A: Set correct save type. Look here, divide by 8!
Q2: "Cannot Read Data" error A: See above!
Q3: Snapshots? A: Only work for GBA games.
Q4: NDS linking, NDS with GBA slot, Picto-Chat, trading, ... A: Not yet available.
Q5: When do we get a new version? A: We don't know. Martin won't tell.
Q6: Donation down? A: Yes, and we can't do anything about it either.
Q7: Game stops without appearent cause. A: Turn the Sound option on.
Q8: No$Zoomer fixes don't work. A: They do only with 2.6a.

gabbyrahwr · May 25th, 2009

no , i completely understood you can`t use snapshots . .___. i just didn`t know saving in-game worked , because i haven`t used an emulator yet that had that function .

but okay i understand now ... thanks . -___-

(thanks gamer3000 8) you seemed to understand i was just double-checking .)

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · May 25th, 2009

Ingame saving is not an emulator function, it's the way the game actually saves regardless of what it's run on (or in simpler terms the way a DS game saves on a DS) and thus it's one of the first things that has to be emulated, long before save states are possible and thus every emulator that's any good has to support that "function".
People simply use and prefer save states because they are more convenient and some games are only saveable at specific save points...they are however an entirely non-natural thing and therefore quite hard to emulate

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No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0

Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!!

!!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

gabbyrahwr · May 25th, 2009

i understand now .
mkay thanks . (8

Amber Fox · June 5th, 2009

It's a similar question to the snapshot question, but...

Is it possible to have more than one SAV file per game? If so, how is that done? Is it possible to link between two SAV files (like multiplayer)?

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · June 5th, 2009

Well yes you could have more than one save per game, but it would be entirely up to you to manage them as the game itself only recognises one save. By that I mean you could play the game for an hour and save (make sure it wrote to the HDD by reloading (not resetting) the game, or use NO$Zoomer's command to commit the save file) then exit and go to the battery folder and copy the save to a different folder like perhaps called "Me". Then delete the save in the battery folder and your brother can have a go play for an hour a repeat the same procedure as before but this time copy it to a folder called "Brother". Then it would be up to you when you get back onto the system to copy your save located in the "Me" folder you made earlier back to battery directory and then when you are done playing save it propperly again and move it back to the "Me" folder. And so on and so forth, basically it's nothing that the emulator can do, only something you can do.

However some games do feature seperate save slots so theoretically you could play a game and Save in the game's first slot and and then someone else could start an entirely new game and save in the second slot. So you would both be playing the game on the same save file but just using different slots....however this is only a theory...and in practice it may end up different for instance when starting a new game the game may decide to wipe the data present in it's save slots...not to mention very few games actually use multiple save slots.

As for linking, no, a DS game can't be linked to ANYTHING on no$gba or iDeaS or NeonDS. DeSmuME is a little better in this regard, but the only additonal feature it has is that a GBA game can be inserted into a DS game for instance to receive a sepecial item...and I am not sure how well that feature actually works.

So the short answer for linking is no.

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No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0

Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!!

!!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

Last edited by SCHUMI_4EVER; June 5th, 2009 at 22:31..

WeAreAcidic · June 11th, 2009

No wifi yet, eh? Will be awesome when it's up 'n running..

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · June 11th, 2009

Perhaps, but nobody knowhere when and even if it's fully possible implement it.

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No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0

Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!!

!!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

nosound.97 · June 11th, 2009

Well, if someone will make an addon for no$gba that supports Wi-Fi, you'll be glad

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Dax · June 11th, 2009

The other emus are more likely to get wifi first than a hacky addon.

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lainz007 · June 18th, 2009

but no$gba is more advanced in wi-fi than the others emulators, see the no$gba changelog

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · June 18th, 2009

It's pointless to speculate...fact is none of the current emulators currently have working WiFi or any way to link a DS game to anything aside from DeSmuME which has implemented a feature to insert a GBA cartridge for special items, but I have no idea how well it work.

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No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0

Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!!

!!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

ilikesuushi · June 27th, 2009

Just asking since ive done everything that you said to make my thing run faster but it works at the start fine 100% around 30 fps then randomly i drops to like 30% and like 5 fps.
Is there any way to make it constant 100%? Without overclocking cause my laptop cant handle it.

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · June 27th, 2009

The reason why you are experiencing that slowdown is most likely because your laptop can't maintain 100% without overheating. So what's happening is that the processor is getting too hot and it's underclocking itself to cool down again. That's my guess anyways and pretty much the only thing you can try there is a cooling pad for your laptop.

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No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0

Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!!

!!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

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April 4th, 2009	#81 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,324	People really need to remember to look at paintings and TVs in Pokemon XD, if you look at the painting just before you leave your room then it would tell you to press 'X'. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

April 4th, 2009	#82 (permalink)
MarkMarkMark Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 16	Oh yea thats true wow i feel stupid...i even have the game on the ds....well thanks anyway oh and i have a japanese version so i dont understand anything in the platinum version

May 25th, 2009	#83 (permalink)
gabbyrahwr Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: france Posts: 3	okay - quick question . i`m not sure if i missed this in the questions or not , i was just skipping around to find questions about saves . but , how is it you save for DS games if you don`t snapshot them ? or can you ? o: or would you just save ingame like normal , and when you load the cartridge , it shows your saved game like a normal ds ? thanks . (; Last edited by gabbyrahwr; May 25th, 2009 at 03:56..

May 25th, 2009	#86 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,324	Guys I really can't make this FAQ any more simple....just check the index and use your browser's search function (FFS I even explained that function)... __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

May 25th, 2009	#87 (permalink)
Smilley Hopeless Optimist Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Austria Posts: 1,041	Asking in the FAQ thread about a question answered in the FAQ. A new low point of noobism. Sorry if this insults you, gabbyrahwr, but it's just true. __________________ No$GBA Quick FAQ: Q1: Savegame doesn't load. A: Set correct save type. Look here, divide by 8! Q2: "Cannot Read Data" error A: See above! Q3: Snapshots? A: Only work for GBA games. Q4: NDS linking, NDS with GBA slot, Picto-Chat, trading, ... A: Not yet available. Q5: When do we get a new version? A: We don't know. Martin won't tell. Q6: Donation down? A: Yes, and we can't do anything about it either. Q7: Game stops without appearent cause. A: Turn the Sound option on. Q8: No$Zoomer fixes don't work. A: They do only with 2.6a.

May 25th, 2009	#88 (permalink)
gabbyrahwr Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: france Posts: 3	no , i completely understood you can`t use snapshots . .___. i just didn`t know saving in-game worked , because i haven`t used an emulator yet that had that function . but okay i understand now ... thanks . -___- (thanks gamer3000 8) you seemed to understand i was just double-checking .)

May 25th, 2009	#89 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,324	Ingame saving is not an emulator function, it's the way the game actually saves regardless of what it's run on (or in simpler terms the way a DS game saves on a DS) and thus it's one of the first things that has to be emulated, long before save states are possible and thus every emulator that's any good has to support that "function". People simply use and prefer save states because they are more convenient and some games are only saveable at specific save points...they are however an entirely non-natural thing and therefore quite hard to emulate __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

May 25th, 2009	#90 (permalink)
gabbyrahwr Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: france Posts: 3	i understand now . mkay thanks . (8

June 5th, 2009	#91 (permalink)
Amber Fox Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Nowhere in Particular Posts: 4	It's a similar question to the snapshot question, but... Is it possible to have more than one SAV file per game? If so, how is that done? Is it possible to link between two SAV files (like multiplayer)?

June 5th, 2009	#92 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,324	Well yes you could have more than one save per game, but it would be entirely up to you to manage them as the game itself only recognises one save. By that I mean you could play the game for an hour and save (make sure it wrote to the HDD by reloading (not resetting) the game, or use NO$Zoomer's command to commit the save file) then exit and go to the battery folder and copy the save to a different folder like perhaps called "Me". Then delete the save in the battery folder and your brother can have a go play for an hour a repeat the same procedure as before but this time copy it to a folder called "Brother". Then it would be up to you when you get back onto the system to copy your save located in the "Me" folder you made earlier back to battery directory and then when you are done playing save it propperly again and move it back to the "Me" folder. And so on and so forth, basically it's nothing that the emulator can do, only something you can do. However some games do feature seperate save slots so theoretically you could play a game and Save in the game's first slot and and then someone else could start an entirely new game and save in the second slot. So you would both be playing the game on the same save file but just using different slots....however this is only a theory...and in practice it may end up different for instance when starting a new game the game may decide to wipe the data present in it's save slots...not to mention very few games actually use multiple save slots. As for linking, no, a DS game can't be linked to ANYTHING on no$gba or iDeaS or NeonDS. DeSmuME is a little better in this regard, but the only additonal feature it has is that a GBA game can be inserted into a DS game for instance to receive a sepecial item...and I am not sure how well that feature actually works. So the short answer for linking is no. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!! Last edited by SCHUMI_4EVER; June 5th, 2009 at 22:31..

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WeAreAcidic Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USA/OR Posts: 5	No wifi yet, eh? Will be awesome when it's up 'n running..

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SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,324	Perhaps, but nobody knowhere when and even if it's fully possible implement it. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

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Dax ライチュウ Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 3,289	The other emus are more likely to get wifi first than a hacky addon. __________________ My PC Specs\|My Consoles\|Emu SVNs\|Project OSX\|How to ask a Question

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lainz007 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 37	but no$gba is more advanced in wi-fi than the others emulators, see the no$gba changelog

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SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,324	It's pointless to speculate...fact is none of the current emulators currently have working WiFi or any way to link a DS game to anything aside from DeSmuME which has implemented a feature to insert a GBA cartridge for special items, but I have no idea how well it work. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

June 27th, 2009	#99 (permalink)
ilikesuushi Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 6	Just asking since ive done everything that you said to make my thing run faster but it works at the start fine 100% around 30 fps then randomly i drops to like 30% and like 5 fps. Is there any way to make it constant 100%? Without overclocking cause my laptop cant handle it.

June 27th, 2009	#100 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,324	The reason why you are experiencing that slowdown is most likely because your laptop can't maintain 100% without overheating. So what's happening is that the processor is getting too hot and it's underclocking itself to cool down again. That's my guess anyways and pretty much the only thing you can try there is a cooling pad for your laptop. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!