NeonDS - New DS emulator - Page 3

Mad · May 23rd, 2007

Great emu indeed, with nice debugger also.

Cypherswipe · May 23rd, 2007

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Send joysticks to the emu authors, and they'll code support. I don't have a joystick, so I'm interested on adding support for it on desmume.

They're well worth it. Trying to play an emu with a keyboard sucks beyond description, playing with a joystick (or more accurately, a gamepad) is almost like playing it on a real system. Gravis gamepad pro is a good choice, cheap yet extremely good. It's layout is similar to a PS controller (which also means it works great for SNES games). Propad6 is pretty good, cheaper, but fewer buttons and a kind of weird layout. It's essentially like a 6-button genesis/megadrive controller + shoulder buttons (but no start or mode buttons), but the shoulder buttons are actually duplicates of 2 of the six top buttons. The gamepad pro was $15 and the propad6 was $10 when I got them years ago, they should be even cheaper by now.

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You're free to submit a patch adding support, if you will :P

Believe me, I wish I could program.

RockmanForte · May 23rd, 2007

I am confused. Isn't this thread about NeonDS ?

Cobalt · May 23rd, 2007

Nice. Gj dude.

**shashClp** · May 23rd, 2007

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Originally Posted by Cypherswipe

They're well worth it. Trying to play an emu with a keyboard sucks beyond description, playing with a joystick (or more accurately, a gamepad) is almost like playing it on a real system. Gravis gamepad pro is a good choice, cheap yet extremely good. It's layout is similar to a PS controller (which also means it works great for SNES games). Propad6 is pretty good, cheaper, but fewer buttons and a kind of weird layout. It's essentially like a 6-button genesis/megadrive controller + shoulder buttons (but no start or mode buttons), but the shoulder buttons are actually duplicates of 2 of the six top buttons. The gamepad pro was $15 and the propad6 was $10 when I got them years ago, they should be even cheaper by now.

I personally have been playing emus with keyboard, and finished quite a lot of games like that, so it's quite of a personal choice. As I use the keyboard, and don't have a joystick, I won't add support for that, neither I'll spend a single pound on that, as cheap as they might be: I'm not going to use them, so I'm not going to spend my well earned money on that :P

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Originally Posted by RockmanForte

I am confused. Isn't this thread about NeonDS ?

We are talking about general joystick support, so that applies too to NeonDS :P

Cypherswipe · May 23rd, 2007

I know virtually nothing about programming, let alone controls (keyboard or joystick) for emulators, so bear with me here...
Isn't the code for joystick controls pretty much standard? Couldn't you take the joystick code from some other open source emu, make some minor adjustments, then drop it into yours?

**shashClp** · May 24th, 2007

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Originally Posted by Cypherswipe

I know virtually nothing about programming, let alone controls (keyboard or joystick) for emulators, so bear with me here...
Isn't the code for joystick controls pretty much standard? Couldn't you take the joystick code from some other open source emu, make some minor adjustments, then drop it into yours?

Nope. And we should discuss it elsewhere, as this it getting a bit too focused on desmume now.

Cooguy1212 · May 24th, 2007

Alright! from now on, no off topic discussion. Stick to NeonDS please.

Cypherswipe · May 24th, 2007

I wasn't focusing on desmume, I was focusing on joystick support, which applies to all emulators that don't yet have it (presumably including noends. No one has said for certain yet whether or not it has joystick support, but that seems to be one of the last things people add to an emulator, long after they get a majority of games emulated. No$gba only has it already because of the fact that they merely added DS emulation to an existing emu instead of starting from scratch).

SCHUMI-4-EVA · May 24th, 2007

Do you see a joystick on a DS somewhere? No? Well then it's fine to play DS games with a keyboard and only silly console gamers find it stupid/hard.

Cypherswipe · May 24th, 2007

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Do you see a joystick on a DS somewhere? No? Well then it's fine to play DS games with a keyboard

Bull. DS doesn't have a "joystick", but then neither has anything since atari 2600. DS does however have a built in gamepad, just like everything from NES on up (including all handhelds). I have used the word "joystick" in this thread simply because that's what every emulator refers to it as, regardless whether you actually use a joystick or a gamepad or any other controller.
Keyboards have the directional keys on the wrong side, plus the fact that you have to move your finger to a different key to go a different direction, which is distinctly more awkward to do than to simply roll your thumb on a control pad. It's difficult to keep track of which keys are button A, B, etc. Not to mention how often keyboard users whine about not being able to press more than 1 key at a time (you can press as many buttons at a time on a gamepad as you can physically reach).

JKKDARK · May 24th, 2007

glad to know there's a new ds emulator

sigmax · May 24th, 2007

This is the NeonDS thread please stop talking about "joystick" support for Desmume.

Cooguy1212 · May 25th, 2007

Yes please or else locked.

Hiei-YYH · May 25th, 2007

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Originally Posted by sigmax

This is the NeonDS thread please stop talking about "joystick" support for Desmume.

i think he's talking about joystick support in geral, not only for desmume.

**Chrono Archangel** · May 26th, 2007

Gave orz the flashy red emu author stars

Welcome to the forums and we hope to hear more from you.

**orz** · May 27th, 2007

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Originally Posted by Chrono Archangel

Gave orz the flashy red emu author stars

Welcome to the forums and we hope to hear more from you.

woo, it looks so cool. Thanks!

RockmanForte · May 31st, 2007

Fully support Rockman ZX/Megaman ZX

NEONDS 0.0.4 released!

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Changelog：
Implemented background alpha blending
Improved game compatibility
Support DirectInput joystick input
Support customize keyboard and joystick input map

I did and it works great! Joystick works too!

NeonDS | NDS (Nintendo DS) emulator

sigmax · May 31st, 2007

I will test some games and make a little Compatible list (wait for the screenshots at night)

**refraction** · May 31st, 2007

Welcome aboard Orz, good luck with the emu, looks very promising in such an early stage

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May 23rd, 2007	#46 (permalink)
Cypherswipe Extra Large Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 934	I know virtually nothing about programming, let alone controls (keyboard or joystick) for emulators, so bear with me here... Isn't the code for joystick controls pretty much standard? Couldn't you take the joystick code from some other open source emu, make some minor adjustments, then drop it into yours? __________________

May 24th, 2007	#49 (permalink)
Cypherswipe Extra Large Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 934	I wasn't focusing on desmume, I was focusing on joystick support, which applies to all emulators that don't yet have it (presumably including noends. No one has said for certain yet whether or not it has joystick support, but that seems to be one of the last things people add to an emulator, long after they get a majority of games emulated. No$gba only has it already because of the fact that they merely added DS emulation to an existing emu instead of starting from scratch). __________________

May 24th, 2007	#48 (permalink)
Cooguy1212 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California Posts: 77	Alright! from now on, no off topic discussion. Stick to NeonDS please.

May 24th, 2007	#50 (permalink)
SCHUMI-4-EVA Devastating Force Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Xenophobia FTL Posts: 4,511	Do you see a joystick on a DS somewhere? No? Well then it's fine to play DS games with a keyboard and only silly console gamers find it stupid/hard.

May 24th, 2007	#52 (permalink)
JKKDARK Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 6,349	glad to know there's a new ds emulator

May 24th, 2007	#53 (permalink)
sigmax ビターバージン Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dominican Republic(ドミニカ共和国) Posts: 1,256	This is the NeonDS thread please stop talking about "joystick" support for Desmume. __________________ シグマクス

May 25th, 2007	#54 (permalink)
Cooguy1212 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California Posts: 77	Yes please or else locked.

May 26th, 2007	#56 (permalink)
Chrono Archangel Administrator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 7,048	Gave orz the flashy red emu author stars Welcome to the forums and we hope to hear more from you. __________________ When Pigs Fly: The Death of Oink, the Birth of Dissent, and a Brief History of Record Industry Suicide.

May 31st, 2007	#59 (permalink)
sigmax ビターバージン Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dominican Republic(ドミニカ共和国) Posts: 1,256	I will test some games and make a little Compatible list (wait for the screenshots at night) __________________ シグマクス

May 31st, 2007	#60 (permalink)
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