Scratched Disk

dig314 · March 6th, 2007

My used PSX game from eBay arrived today.
The disk looks bad. When I try to make an image with Alcohol 52%, I get about 125 disk read errors / blocks out of 200,000 plus blocks. The auction stated it was "used, but in working condition." Using windows explorer, I can’t copy the contents of the disk without getting fatal read errors.

How much would/could that effect gameplay? The game does start without errors.

I have been in contact with the seller. The seller stated the scratches do not effect gameplay because he “played it recently and I had no problems.”

It gets worse.
The game is Final Fantasy Tactics. Even if the seller played it recently, that doesn’t mean there isn’t a show stopper waiting in a bad block that the seller didn’t encounter. As soon as the seller received payment, the seller emailed me stating the “disks definitely shows some wear and tear from playing” and “should you experience ANY problems with the disc, please contact me right away.” The “disks definitely shows some wear and tear from playing” was not stated in the auction itself.

Should I try to get a refund? The seller has 100% positive feedback. I doubt any reputable game store would allow a trade-in with the way the disk looks.

Thank you for your time.

Dig

**hushypushy** · March 6th, 2007

Yeah, well look at the "ANY" in all caps. You can't make an ISO of it because it's too scratched, I'd say that's a problem.

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Paratech · March 7th, 2007

Electronics Boutique has had some real "winners" e.g., some really messed up games, it happens. I'm not justifying selling a bad CD/DVD just explaining it happens.

Some video stores will resurface a CD/DVD for a few bucks, it's up to you as the CD/DVD may be too damaged to restore and you may just be spending more money and getting nothing in return.

I don't know about the auction, it depends on how it was worded, whether or not you can do much other than give negative feedback, and even that is limiting...Depending on how many transactions the seller has made, it may not accomplish squat.

I'd try to negotiate first then post negative feedback as a last resort.

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dig314 · March 15th, 2007

A friend had access to a machine that buffs CDs. The CD looks great - - except extremely up close. If you didn’t know what to look for, the CD appears to be in MINT condition. I can now make a complete image without any errors.

Dig

**hushypushy** · March 15th, 2007

Yeah those are cool...I used to recommend them but almost everyone either had no idea what I was talking about or they didn't want to do it. They can really fix a disc, but if you're not careful you can destroy it as well.

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March 6th, 2007	#1 (permalink)
dig314 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US Posts: 22	Scratched Disk My used PSX game from eBay arrived today. The disk looks bad. When I try to make an image with Alcohol 52%, I get about 125 disk read errors / blocks out of 200,000 plus blocks. The auction stated it was "used, but in working condition." Using windows explorer, I can’t copy the contents of the disk without getting fatal read errors. How much would/could that effect gameplay? The game does start without errors. I have been in contact with the seller. The seller stated the scratches do not effect gameplay because he “played it recently and I had no problems.” It gets worse. The game is Final Fantasy Tactics. Even if the seller played it recently, that doesn’t mean there isn’t a show stopper waiting in a bad block that the seller didn’t encounter. As soon as the seller received payment, the seller emailed me stating the “disks definitely shows some wear and tear from playing” and “should you experience ANY problems with the disc, please contact me right away.” The “disks definitely shows some wear and tear from playing” was not stated in the auction itself. Should I try to get a refund? The seller has 100% positive feedback. I doubt any reputable game store would allow a trade-in with the way the disk looks. Thank you for your time. Dig

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March 6th, 2007	#2 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,978	Yeah, well look at the "ANY" in all caps. You can't make an ISO of it because it's too scratched, I'd say that's a problem. __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994.

March 7th, 2007	#3 (permalink)
Paratech Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Franklin, Pa Posts: 4,127	Electronics Boutique has had some real "winners" e.g., some really messed up games, it happens. I'm not justifying selling a bad CD/DVD just explaining it happens. Some video stores will resurface a CD/DVD for a few bucks, it's up to you as the CD/DVD may be too damaged to restore and you may just be spending more money and getting nothing in return. I don't know about the auction, it depends on how it was worded, whether or not you can do much other than give negative feedback, and even that is limiting...Depending on how many transactions the seller has made, it may not accomplish squat. I'd try to negotiate first then post negative feedback as a last resort. __________________ -Dreams of getting a new 360 XBOX in 201x. -Current consoles: Playstation 2 and Wii, also has DS/GBA and a PSP 3000 -PC: AMD 5000 2.6 Dual Core, 2GB Ram, 8600 GeForce GT video card, SB Live!, Win XP SP3

March 15th, 2007	#4 (permalink)
dig314 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US Posts: 22	A friend had access to a machine that buffs CDs. The CD looks great - - except extremely up close. If you didn’t know what to look for, the CD appears to be in MINT condition. I can now make a complete image without any errors. Dig

March 15th, 2007	#5 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,978	Yeah those are cool...I used to recommend them but almost everyone either had no idea what I was talking about or they didn't want to do it. They can really fix a disc, but if you're not careful you can destroy it as well. __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994.