for all the people who want to upload their save states on this forums

ice2hot · May 9th, 2001

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i just tried compressing one of the save states and guess what it gave me a 99% compression ratio .. i mean a 1.67 mb file converted to 31 bytes ....now you must be thinking that hey i tried using winzip but it was of no help .... but i used another zipping utility by the name of winace . so all you need to do is zip it up and the convert it into and exe file so anyone who does not have this zip utiity can unzip it and then enjoy the save state...

sorry guys i just rechecked on the compressed file and there was this slight process which i happened to overlook .. i forgot to refresh the page and so it was showing me 31 bytes ..after refreshing the page it was showing me the correct size of the zipped file which was 1.5 mb ....sorry for all the excitement i guess i just got excited myself and thought i should let you people know about it ..sorry once again everyone

**Ryos** · May 9th, 2001

31 *bytes*? Are you sure the zip file is actually correct (as in not incomplete zip file, etc.)? That seems like an awful lot of compression, particularly since the savestates are already compressed somewhat to begin with...

May 9th, 2001

That's impossible.

**LanGaidin** · May 9th, 2001

Okay, I'd just like to say that WinAce does not ZIP files, and it does not create ZIPs. It compresses them and creates ACE files (I guess you could say it Aces them, but that sounds stupid). Hence the name WinAce as opposed to WinZip. And while Ace files do seem to usually get slightly better compression than Zip files, I have to agree that if it compressed it that much, it's highly likely that the Ace file is fux0red, or the original save state was actually just a text file...

**Ryos** · May 10th, 2001

Pshaw, zips and aces. They're all zipped files. It's just one kind of compression can be more efficient than others. Categorization is a good thing.

**LanGaidin** · May 10th, 2001

Actually, saying they're all zipped doesn't bug me.. However, calling them all Zip files is annoying as hell. That's not categorizing, that's calling it something it's not. The world would be pretty confusing if every item in an office was called a "chair". There's a reason different things have different names.

Rargh · May 10th, 2001

Don t torturate ur mind
U ll have a headache

!!

**Betamax** · May 11th, 2001

This is like that old Hovering argument. Most people say that they are hoovering the carpet not vaccuum cleaning the carpet. In the same way zipping a file has become part of the language, as an alternative way of saying compressing a file.

Rargh · May 11th, 2001

Not all the people tough....
When I use Winrar© I say "rar it!"
when I use Winzip© I say "zip it."

takwu · May 12th, 2001

I have never heard someone said they were "hoovering the carpet". Or maybe I heard it and thought it was dumb so forgot it.

Let's hope people come to their senses and stop saying they zipped something into a RAR or ACE or what-have-you file.

Sandie · May 12th, 2001

I have vacuumed a lot of carpets in my time, I even sold vacuums at one point. NEVER ahve i heard anyone say the were going to hoover their carpet. Usually they say they are going to vacuum it! Imagine that

Umm I think I'll go Eureka my carpet now, or maybe I'll just Dirt Devil it.

May 12th, 2001

Yea, and I'm going to make insert a vacuum into an old movie and make it dance with an old actor, and call it good.

w00t.

Sandie · May 12th, 2001

/me wonders if that actually got people to buy it? OOO look that old dead actor, what's his name?, he's danceing with this vacuum. Let's go get one

**Betamax** · May 12th, 2001

I though that one was international. Must be just us Irish who say that then.

"so what the feck is the craic then?"
Translation: "How's things"

**Ryos** · May 16th, 2001

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Originally posted by Sandie
/me wonders if that actually got people to buy it? OOO look that old dead actor, what's his name?, he's danceing with this vacuum. Let's go get one

Seems to work with any advertisements. "Who cares if it sucks. If Jim Carrie (etc.) likes it, I have to get it!" Then again, I'm one of those guys who only watches commercials to see some of the creativity in them.

radiohead2 · May 19th, 2001

you can make rar, ace, zip, and other files with winace, not only ace files, your fool, first rty it and then talk

May 19th, 2001

WinACE sucks for the simple fact that they change their compression algorithm too much, so backwards compatibility is almost non-existant.

May 21st, 2001

I use powerarchiver.....works with everything except for the new ACE format (for the reason CD mentioned) ..and it's free

Adair · May 25th, 2001

Any body ever use a Kleenex? You're actually using a tissue, but the Kleenex brand became such a popular brand that everytime I want a tissue I ask for a kleenex. Umm...yeah, I just thought I'd share that. You know...get it out into the open.

May 25th, 2001

uh...right.
anyways, I'm still having problems uploading to this forum....

May 9th, 2001	#4 (permalink)
LanGaidin Emulation Freak Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Indiana (US) Posts: 198	Okay, I'd just like to say that WinAce does not ZIP files, and it does not create ZIPs. It compresses them and creates ACE files (I guess you could say it Aces them, but that sounds stupid). Hence the name WinAce as opposed to WinZip. And while Ace files do seem to usually get slightly better compression than Zip files, I have to agree that if it compressed it that much, it's highly likely that the Ace file is fux0red, or the original save state was actually just a text file... __________________ al'Lan Mandragoran

May 10th, 2001	#6 (permalink)
LanGaidin Emulation Freak Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Indiana (US) Posts: 198	Actually, saying they're all zipped doesn't bug me.. However, calling them all Zip files is annoying as hell. That's not categorizing, that's calling it something it's not. The world would be pretty confusing if every item in an office was called a "chair". There's a reason different things have different names. __________________ al'Lan Mandragoran

May 11th, 2001	#8 (permalink)
Betamax Resident Movie Critic Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 9,480	This is like that old Hovering argument. Most people say that they are hoovering the carpet not vaccuum cleaning the carpet. In the same way zipping a file has become part of the language, as an alternative way of saying compressing a file. __________________ Superior marketing of an inferior product will always win over inferior marketing of a superior product. Last edited by Betamax; May 11th, 2001 at 01:28.

May 12th, 2001	#11 (permalink)
Sandie Emu Chick Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 230	I have vacuumed a lot of carpets in my time, I even sold vacuums at one point. NEVER ahve i heard anyone say the were going to hoover their carpet. Usually they say they are going to vacuum it! Imagine that Umm I think I'll go Eureka my carpet now, or maybe I'll just Dirt Devil it. Last edited by Sandie; May 12th, 2001 at 01:45.

May 12th, 2001	#14 (permalink)
Betamax Resident Movie Critic Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 9,480	I though that one was international. Must be just us Irish who say that then. "so what the feck is the craic then?" Translation: "How's things" __________________ Superior marketing of an inferior product will always win over inferior marketing of a superior product. Last edited by Betamax; May 12th, 2001 at 21:30.

May 9th, 2001	#2 (permalink)
Ryos Revenger of Vengeance Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,250	31 bytes? Are you sure the zip file is actually correct (as in not incomplete zip file, etc.)? That seems like an awful lot of compression, particularly since the savestates are already compressed somewhat to begin with...

May 9th, 2001	#3 (permalink)
CDBuRnOuT Guest Posts: n/a	That's impossible.

May 10th, 2001	#5 (permalink)
Ryos Revenger of Vengeance Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,250	Pshaw, zips and aces. They're all zipped files. It's just one kind of compression can be more efficient than others. Categorization is a good thing.

May 10th, 2001	#7 (permalink)
Rargh Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,238	Don t torturate ur mind U ll have a headache !!

May 11th, 2001	#9 (permalink)
Rargh Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,238	Not all the people tough.... When I use Winrar© I say "rar it!" when I use Winzip© I say "zip it."

May 12th, 2001	#10 (permalink)
takwu previous extinction Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 1,855	I have never heard someone said they were "hoovering the carpet". Or maybe I heard it and thought it was dumb so forgot it. Let's hope people come to their senses and stop saying they zipped something into a RAR or ACE or what-have-you file.

May 12th, 2001	#12 (permalink)
CDBuRnOuT Guest Posts: n/a	Yea, and I'm going to make insert a vacuum into an old movie and make it dance with an old actor, and call it good. w00t.

May 12th, 2001	#13 (permalink)
Sandie Emu Chick Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 230	/me wonders if that actually got people to buy it? OOO look that old dead actor, what's his name?, he's danceing with this vacuum. Let's go get one

May 19th, 2001	#16 (permalink)
radiohead2 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: MX Posts: 125	winace also zip files, you can make rar, ace, zip, and other files with winace, not only ace files, your fool, first rty it and then talk __________________ Dell Inspiron 8000: 1Ghz P!!!, 512 MB SDRAM, GeForce4 Go w/64Mb DDR, UXGA 15" screen 1600x1200, ESS Maestro sound, 40GB HD, DVD-ROM 8x Pete's Plugins. WinXP Pro

May 19th, 2001	#17 (permalink)
CDBuRnOuT Guest Posts: n/a	WinACE sucks for the simple fact that they change their compression algorithm too much, so backwards compatibility is almost non-existant.

May 21st, 2001	#18 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	I use powerarchiver.....works with everything except for the new ACE format (for the reason CD mentioned) ..and it's free

May 25th, 2001	#19 (permalink)
Adair Ghost Hacker Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,830	Any body ever use a Kleenex? You're actually using a tissue, but the Kleenex brand became such a popular brand that everytime I want a tissue I ask for a kleenex. Umm...yeah, I just thought I'd share that. You know...get it out into the open.

May 25th, 2001	#20 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	uh...right. anyways, I'm still having problems uploading to this forum....

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