PSOne question

Mr. Killjoy · September 22nd, 2003

Well, saturday, something funny happened, the new-ex-BF (let's call him Joe) of my ex-sister-in-law (call her C) left her PSone (the real PSone, small, EU version) here at my home... she told me that it wasn't chipped, but it wasn't proved (at least she doesn't know)

then Joe played FF9 PAL (Original CD)... but an FMV crashed near the end of CD4 so he said "aaaaaaargh!"
/me: said Huh? what happened?
Joe: it crashed

/me: ok let's try something */me took my patched copy of FF9 PAL, opened the
console (not switched of), removed his CD, put mine in and closed*

The game un-crashed, the FMV continued and after a while, he finally saw the end, then he switched off the console, then On
I wondered what he was doing, so he tod me "just curious"...

Miracle, the copy booted and worked fine, so we tried with many games and only PAL ones boot (that's why he is playing with my copy off FF7 right now)

So here is my question:
How comes the PSOne reads and copy with the Eur country code? (even my Xenogears copy, since I changed the country code)
Is it a normal behavior for the PSone? or the console was chipped and C didn't know it?

PS: I know the rule, but I don't know if my post is in the "illegal discussion" category

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**Razor Blade** · September 22nd, 2003

Heh. Well I would say its chipped. I mean its pretty much impossible for a psone to run a backup game without one. And it only does PAL games because its a PAL PSOne. So thats my theory.

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Mr. Killjoy · September 22nd, 2003

>> And it only does PAL games because its a PAL PSOne.

AFAIK, and by experience -since I've played on more than 1 chipped PSX-, modchips overruns the Bios country code...
my neighbor has many Jap/US games on his PAL chipped PSX

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**Razor Blade** · September 22nd, 2003

Okasy so does your friends PSOne run US games? Or just PAL?

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Mr. Killjoy · September 22nd, 2003

It runs PAL only (and NTSC games on which I changed the country code -eg. Xenogears)

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**ammoQ** · September 23rd, 2003

Since the PSOne is sold in Europe, and PAL is the TV standard in Europe, it seems no miracle to me that it plays European PAL games.

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Mr. Killjoy · September 23rd, 2003

LOL, what I'm trying to say is that it reads BURNED copies of PAL games (and NTSC ones with altered country code)

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**Razor Blade** · September 24th, 2003

Well my guess is either Sony made a HUGE mistake.

Or he actually has a modchip in there. Sounds like he has a modchip. Maybe one of his friends or siblings got it in there and forgot to tell him.

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Mr. Killjoy · September 24th, 2003

>> Maybe one of his friends or siblings got it in there and forgot to tell him.

"She", it's his ex-gf PSone

She bought it in a shop, it was a used console...
but still, if it's a modchip, why does it only run PAL games? others modchips runs foreign games too

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**Razor Blade** · September 25th, 2003

Not all modchips are the same. Although I would think most of them have that option since alot of people like to do that.

But you never know. And SHE (sorry) bought a console with a modchip in it. Its odviouse. I guess either the modchip was tinkered with or its a different kind. Maybe it was cheaper so the previous owner cheaped out.

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Mr. Killjoy · September 25th, 2003

Well, ok, thanks

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**Razor Blade** · September 25th, 2003

The only way to truly find out is to crack it open.

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Mr. Killjoy · September 25th, 2003

Nah, it doesn't matter, I was just wondering...
but you must be right, it can be a cheap chip (hehe)
the good thing is that Joe can play my modified Xenogears on it

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**Razor Blade** · September 25th, 2003

Hey you should try some other games.

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Mr. Killjoy · September 25th, 2003

All PAL games work on her PSX, but NTSC won't work if I don't modify the country code

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September 22nd, 2003	#1 (permalink)
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,802	PSOne question Well, saturday, something funny happened, the new-ex-BF (let's call him Joe) of my ex-sister-in-law (call her C) left her PSone (the real PSone, small, EU version) here at my home... she told me that it wasn't chipped, but it wasn't proved (at least she doesn't know) then Joe played FF9 PAL (Original CD)... but an FMV crashed near the end of CD4 so he said "aaaaaaargh!" /me: said Huh? what happened? Joe: it crashed /me: ok let's try something /me took my patched copy of FF9 PAL, opened the console (not switched of), removed his CD, put mine in and closed The game un-crashed, the FMV continued and after a while, he finally saw the end, then he switched off the console, then On I wondered what he was doing, so he tod me "just curious"... Miracle, the copy booted and worked fine, so we tried with many games and only PAL ones boot (that's why he is playing with my copy off FF7 right now) So here is my question: How comes the PSOne reads and copy with the Eur country code? (even my Xenogears copy, since I changed the country code) Is it a normal behavior for the PSone? or the console was chipped and C didn't know it? PS: I know the rule, but I don't know if my post is in the "illegal discussion" category __________________ Leader of "The Pessimists' Club" CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: (Frying) GF8800GTS 512MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

September 22nd, 2003	#2 (permalink)
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,032	Re: PSOne question Heh. Well I would say its chipped. I mean its pretty much impossible for a psone to run a backup game without one. And it only does PAL games because its a PAL PSOne. So thats my theory. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

September 22nd, 2003	#3 (permalink)
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,802	Re: PSOne question >> And it only does PAL games because its a PAL PSOne. AFAIK, and by experience -since I've played on more than 1 chipped PSX-, modchips overruns the Bios country code... my neighbor has many Jap/US games on his PAL chipped PSX __________________ Leader of "The Pessimists' Club" CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: (Frying) GF8800GTS 512MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

September 22nd, 2003	#4 (permalink)
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,032	Re: PSOne question Okasy so does your friends PSOne run US games? Or just PAL? __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

September 22nd, 2003	#5 (permalink)
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,802	Re: PSOne question It runs PAL only (and NTSC games on which I changed the country code -eg. Xenogears) __________________ Leader of "The Pessimists' Club" CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: (Frying) GF8800GTS 512MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

September 23rd, 2003	#6 (permalink)
ammoQ Emu author Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vienna/Austria/Europe Posts: 1,168	Re: PSOne question Since the PSOne is sold in Europe, and PAL is the TV standard in Europe, it seems no miracle to me that it plays European PAL games. __________________ If you think my English is bad, wait till you read my Polish.

September 23rd, 2003	#7 (permalink)
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,802	Re: PSOne question LOL, what I'm trying to say is that it reads BURNED copies of PAL games (and NTSC ones with altered country code) __________________ Leader of "The Pessimists' Club" CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: (Frying) GF8800GTS 512MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

September 24th, 2003	#8 (permalink)
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,032	Re: PSOne question Well my guess is either Sony made a HUGE mistake. Or he actually has a modchip in there. Sounds like he has a modchip. Maybe one of his friends or siblings got it in there and forgot to tell him. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

September 24th, 2003	#9 (permalink)
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,802	Re: PSOne question >> Maybe one of his friends or siblings got it in there and forgot to tell him. "She", it's his ex-gf PSone She bought it in a shop, it was a used console... but still, if it's a modchip, why does it only run PAL games? others modchips runs foreign games too __________________ Leader of "The Pessimists' Club" CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: (Frying) GF8800GTS 512MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

September 25th, 2003	#10 (permalink)
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,032	Re: PSOne question Not all modchips are the same. Although I would think most of them have that option since alot of people like to do that. But you never know. And SHE (sorry) bought a console with a modchip in it. Its odviouse. I guess either the modchip was tinkered with or its a different kind. Maybe it was cheaper so the previous owner cheaped out. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

September 25th, 2003	#11 (permalink)
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,802	Re: PSOne question Well, ok, thanks __________________ Leader of "The Pessimists' Club" CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: (Frying) GF8800GTS 512MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

September 25th, 2003	#12 (permalink)
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,032	Re: PSOne question The only way to truly find out is to crack it open. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

September 25th, 2003	#13 (permalink)
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,802	Re: PSOne question Nah, it doesn't matter, I was just wondering... but you must be right, it can be a cheap chip (hehe) the good thing is that Joe can play my modified Xenogears on it __________________ Leader of "The Pessimists' Club" CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: (Frying) GF8800GTS 512MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

September 25th, 2003	#14 (permalink)
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,032	Re: PSOne question Hey you should try some other games. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

September 25th, 2003	#15 (permalink)
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,802	Re: PSOne question All PAL games work on her PSX, but NTSC won't work if I don't modify the country code __________________ Leader of "The Pessimists' Club" CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: (Frying) GF8800GTS 512MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

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