.img size difference

Pralys · July 30th, 2003

Probably not the greatest way to start my first post, but I'm not entirely sure if this violates the first rule. But here's hoping.

I decided I wanted to make ISOs of some of the games I own, so I wouldn't have to lug any CDs around with me, or constantly exchange for others if I'm in that mood. Wild Arms being one of my favorites, I did that first.

The file size was over 600 megabytes.

So I did some investigating. It lead me here, plus a few other sites. I downloaded a file of Tactics Ogres (for the sole purpose of comparison) and found the .img file to be 300x (22 megabytes) less than my Wild Arms .img file. I ran the game and didn't notice a drop in quality either.

So I'll finally get to my question. How do I go about doing the same? I noticed in earlier threads stating zipping the files is pretty much useless, and didn't see anything regarding file size except for back-up discs.

For legal reference, I own both Tactics Ogres and Wild Arms. I'd prefer making my own file though; something about it just feels better.

Thanks in advance. Or apologies for wasting your time, if this happens to be deleted.

Badaro · July 30th, 2003

It's simple, some games are smaller then others. Since you own Tactics Ogre, try making an image of it and compare to the one you downloaded, should be the same size.

[]s Badaro

GSDragoon · July 30th, 2003

I don't know why, but the .img file is suppost to be bigger.

scottlc · July 30th, 2003

It's still illegal to download an ISO regardless of whether you own the game. Plus it wastes time.

GSDragoon · July 30th, 2003

If you own the game and make the backup yourself, you know for sure it will work right.

**Kane** · July 30th, 2003

Well compressing images with RAR (2.x) is worthwhile as you can shave of quite a bit with it, and Mooby's plugin can read RARed bins IIRC.

GSDragoon · July 30th, 2003

Does that decrease performance since it's compressed?

Galway no Sora · July 30th, 2003

the ISO would be more likely bigger than the files in CD, because it contain the protection and also burning program control files [like CloneCD]. But, if you burnt it into CD-R, it's size would be the same as your original CD.

What I can say, thats normal !

Pralys · July 31st, 2003

Illegal? Well, I suppose that makes me a criminal. :/

I did try the original game this time, and yes, it was stupidly simple. My error. But the image file was still 78.7 megabytes. Not nearly Wild Arms size, but still rather large.

That still leaves me wondering how the file I downloaded was 23 megabytes. It wasn't zipped, or compressed. I just wonder about the technology behind.

But thank you, I'll try compressing and using that plug-in.

Badaro · July 31st, 2003

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pralys

Illegal? Well, I suppose that makes me a criminal. :/

I did try the original game this time, and yes, it was stupidly simple. My error. But the image file was still 78.7 megabytes. Not nearly Wild Arms size, but still rather large.

That still leaves me wondering how the file I downloaded was 23 megabytes. It wasn't zipped, or compressed. I just wonder about the technology behind.

But thank you, I'll try compressing and using that plug-in.

If the downloaded image was smaller by that much, it probably had something stripped from the game. Maybe videos or dialogue.

[]s Badaro

July 30th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
Pralys Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4	.img size difference Probably not the greatest way to start my first post, but I'm not entirely sure if this violates the first rule. But here's hoping. I decided I wanted to make ISOs of some of the games I own, so I wouldn't have to lug any CDs around with me, or constantly exchange for others if I'm in that mood. Wild Arms being one of my favorites, I did that first. The file size was over 600 megabytes. So I did some investigating. It lead me here, plus a few other sites. I downloaded a file of Tactics Ogres (for the sole purpose of comparison) and found the .img file to be 300x (22 megabytes) less than my Wild Arms .img file. I ran the game and didn't notice a drop in quality either. So I'll finally get to my question. How do I go about doing the same? I noticed in earlier threads stating zipping the files is pretty much useless, and didn't see anything regarding file size except for back-up discs. For legal reference, I own both Tactics Ogres and Wild Arms. I'd prefer making my own file though; something about it just feels better. Thanks in advance. Or apologies for wasting your time, if this happens to be deleted.

July 30th, 2003	#2 (permalink)
Badaro Rosen Ritter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,394	Re: .img size difference It's simple, some games are smaller then others. Since you own Tactics Ogre, try making an image of it and compare to the one you downloaded, should be the same size. []s Badaro __________________ My old signature became obsolete and I lack imagination to make a new one.

July 30th, 2003	#3 (permalink)
GSDragoon Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,969	Re: .img size difference I don't know why, but the .img file is suppost to be bigger. __________________ Athlon64 3400+ @10.5x250MHz, 2.625GHz \| DFI NF3 250GB 2x512 Corsair pc3200 \| BFG FX6800 OC 128MB \| X-Fi XtremeGamer

July 30th, 2003	#4 (permalink)
scottlc Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: St Andrews, Scotland Posts: 1,575	Re: .img size difference It's still illegal to download an ISO regardless of whether you own the game. Plus it wastes time. __________________ OS: Arch Linux w/ Kernel 2.6.23.8 + GNOME 2.20.1 - CPU: Intel Pentium M 1.5GHz - Memory: 1280MB DDR PC2700 - Browser: Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.10

July 30th, 2003	#5 (permalink)
GSDragoon Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,969	Re: .img size difference If you own the game and make the backup yourself, you know for sure it will work right. __________________ Athlon64 3400+ @10.5x250MHz, 2.625GHz \| DFI NF3 250GB 2x512 Corsair pc3200 \| BFG FX6800 OC 128MB \| X-Fi XtremeGamer

July 30th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Re: .img size difference Well compressing images with RAR (2.x) is worthwhile as you can shave of quite a bit with it, and Mooby's plugin can read RARed bins IIRC. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

July 30th, 2003	#7 (permalink)
GSDragoon Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,969	Re: .img size difference Does that decrease performance since it's compressed? __________________ Athlon64 3400+ @10.5x250MHz, 2.625GHz \| DFI NF3 250GB 2x512 Corsair pc3200 \| BFG FX6800 OC 128MB \| X-Fi XtremeGamer

July 30th, 2003	#8 (permalink)
Galway no Sora ~¤ PanZeR ¤~ idRO Thor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Valhalla, in Odin's throne Posts: 3,145	Re: .img size difference the ISO would be more likely bigger than the files in CD, because it contain the protection and also burning program control files [like CloneCD]. But, if you burnt it into CD-R, it's size would be the same as your original CD. What I can say, thats normal ! __________________ Core 2 Duo 1.6 GHz «» 2048MB DDR2 RAM «» 256MB onboard Graphic Onboard Realtek High Definition Soundcard «» 160 + 40 GB SATA HDD Pioneer DVD±RW «» 15.4" Widescreen LCD «» Windows Vista Ultimate Sucks ha? Yeah, that's a laptop for sure.

July 31st, 2003	#9 (permalink)
Pralys Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4	Illegal? Well, I suppose that makes me a criminal. :/ I did try the original game this time, and yes, it was stupidly simple. My error. But the image file was still 78.7 megabytes. Not nearly Wild Arms size, but still rather large. That still leaves me wondering how the file I downloaded was 23 megabytes. It wasn't zipped, or compressed. I just wonder about the technology behind. But thank you, I'll try compressing and using that plug-in.

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