Removing the movie from the psx game tactics ogre

truepurple · July 9th, 2003

Im told that with the psx version of tactics ogre that the begining sequence that shows a short 3d movie of atlus as opening credits accounts for approximately 90% of the .bin's size.

How might I cut out this worthless space hog from the game?

**Kane** · July 9th, 2003

My guess is taht the padding in the BIN is empty data. If you want to shrink the image, try compressing it using Mooby's plugin or PSXeven.

truepurple · July 9th, 2003

Won't a compressed file be slower? Either way how might I remove that beginning movie sequence? That way I can save space and load time.

**Kane** · July 9th, 2003

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Originally Posted by truepurple

Won't a compressed file be slower? Either way how might I remove that beginning movie sequence? That way I can save space and load time.

Yes and no. Tactics Ogre doesn't do much reading from the CD anyway. Removing the movie would be a real pain, requiring you to edit the game 'executable' IIRC.

truepurple · July 9th, 2003

Well I think I could save alot of space if I did remove it. So how would might I go about doing as you mentioned? I wouldnt think it would be too hard to remove since its right at the beginning and not somewhere tangled in the middle of other code.

Mad · July 9th, 2003

IIRC, i once borrowed this game from a friend, and made the ISO to play it, using cdrwin.
The game had 2 tracks, the first DATA, and the 2 AUDIO.
I was impressed the game was only something like 20 or 30 Mb.
So i think its AUDIO files that are 90% of it, not the FMV.

truepurple · July 9th, 2003

well theres no voice overs and only so many music scores. No more then the normal snes version. Can't imagine its all audio. But for sure its bigger then it needs to be since its not much different then the snes version except its english and ~90mb instead of ~9mb (or some numbers like that)

Anyways theres only one way to be sure. And that is to take out that beginning FVM bit. Does anyone know how to do that? Would you please tell me?

**Kane** · July 9th, 2003

Look, AFAIK it's not a simple task to remove stuff like that. Yuo can try just editing the ISO and removing the file, but in all likelyhood you'll right royaly **** up hte game.
It should be irrelevant anyway, as you can just play it from the original game cd....

**I-Chan** · July 9th, 2003

Maybe, if you create an empty-but-correct video file, and substitute the one in the ISO with the one you created, it might work... You'll need somethin like premiere to create the video, and some tool to convert it to PSX format (mdec).

kickinit · July 20th, 2003

the atlus movie file is 4mb in size. it's true that it can be replaced by a dummy file if you wanted.

However most of the space is taken up by two audio files. (Also there is the gamedata file UBF.BIN.) See here:

The only possible thing you could do is compress or resample them, followed by hacking executable to compensate for your changes.

Mad · July 21st, 2003

Well, here i used cdrwin to make the ISO.
It presented me with 2 or 3 tracks, cant remeber correctly.
I made the ISO using only the DATA track, and the game ran perfectly....
U can try too, since the shareeware version of cdrwin aloow u to make ISO´s just fine....

July 9th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
truepurple Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 41	Removing the movie from the psx game tactics ogre Im told that with the psx version of tactics ogre that the begining sequence that shows a short 3d movie of atlus as opening credits accounts for approximately 90% of the .bin's size. How might I cut out this worthless space hog from the game?

July 9th, 2003	#2 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Re: Removing the movie from the psx game tactics ogre My guess is taht the padding in the BIN is empty data. If you want to shrink the image, try compressing it using Mooby's plugin or PSXeven. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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truepurple Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 41	Re: Removing the movie from the psx game tactics ogre Well I think I could save alot of space if I did remove it. So how would might I go about doing as you mentioned? I wouldnt think it would be too hard to remove since its right at the beginning and not somewhere tangled in the middle of other code.

July 9th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 2,903	Re: Removing the movie from the psx game tactics ogre IIRC, i once borrowed this game from a friend, and made the ISO to play it, using cdrwin. The game had 2 tracks, the first DATA, and the 2 AUDIO. I was impressed the game was only something like 20 or 30 Mb. So i think its AUDIO files that are 90% of it, not the FMV. __________________ [WinXP SP3] [Gigabyte GA-M61PM-S2] [Athlon64 X2 3800+ @2.00Ghz] [XFX Geforce 8600GT XxX 256MB DDR3] [17" SyncMaster 753v] [Samsung SATA II HD080HJ 80GB] [Samsung SATA II HD250HJ 250GB] [Kingston 2x1GB DDR2 6400@800MHz CL6] [Samsung CDDVDW SH-S203B] [NVIDIA nForce Networking] [Realtek ALC883 @ nVIDIA MCP61]

July 9th, 2003	#8 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Re: Removing the movie from the psx game tactics ogre Look, AFAIK it's not a simple task to remove stuff like that. Yuo can try just editing the ISO and removing the file, but in all likelyhood you'll right royaly **** up hte game. It should be irrelevant anyway, as you can just play it from the original game cd.... __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

July 9th, 2003	#3 (permalink)
truepurple Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 41	Won't a compressed file be slower? Either way how might I remove that beginning movie sequence? That way I can save space and load time.

July 9th, 2003	#7 (permalink)
truepurple Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 41	well theres no voice overs and only so many music scores. No more then the normal snes version. Can't imagine its all audio. But for sure its bigger then it needs to be since its not much different then the snes version except its english and ~90mb instead of ~9mb (or some numbers like that) Anyways theres only one way to be sure. And that is to take out that beginning FVM bit. Does anyone know how to do that? Would you please tell me?

July 9th, 2003	#9 (permalink)
I-Chan Ex Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 3,085	Re: Removing the movie from the psx game tactics ogre Maybe, if you create an empty-but-correct video file, and substitute the one in the ISO with the one you created, it might work... You'll need somethin like premiere to create the video, and some tool to convert it to PSX format (mdec). __________________ "I'm living in a dream I can't wake from" Core 2 Duo 6600 FSB 1066 \| 2048 MB DDR2 PC2 6400 800 MHZ \| NVIDIA 8800 GTS \| Sound Blaster Audigy 4 \| Seagate Barracuda 250GB SATAII+WD Caviar 250GB \| Dell 3007WFP-HC 30" Widescreen

July 20th, 2003	#10 (permalink)
kickinit Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1	the atlus movie file is 4mb in size. it's true that it can be replaced by a dummy file if you wanted. However most of the space is taken up by two audio files. (Also there is the gamedata file UBF.BIN.) See here: The only possible thing you could do is compress or resample them, followed by hacking executable to compensate for your changes.

July 21st, 2003	#11 (permalink)
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 2,903	Re: Removing the movie from the psx game tactics ogre Well, here i used cdrwin to make the ISO. It presented me with 2 or 3 tracks, cant remeber correctly. I made the ISO using only the DATA track, and the game ran perfectly.... U can try too, since the shareeware version of cdrwin aloow u to make ISO´s just fine.... __________________ [WinXP SP3] [Gigabyte GA-M61PM-S2] [Athlon64 X2 3800+ @2.00Ghz] [XFX Geforce 8600GT XxX 256MB DDR3] [17" SyncMaster 753v] [Samsung SATA II HD080HJ 80GB] [Samsung SATA II HD250HJ 250GB] [Kingston 2x1GB DDR2 6400@800MHz CL6] [Samsung CDDVDW SH-S203B] [NVIDIA nForce Networking] [Realtek ALC883 @ nVIDIA MCP61]

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