vgs performance w/ vpc

blueIS · April 4th, 2002

i have winxp installed... yes i cant play vgs...
epsxe is plain annoying and crashes...
i tried using virtual pc, and i only get around 10~20fps (i have descent computer sys.)

how do u all use vgs w/ winxp? (im not talking about mult-boot)
i need some input... tia~

DB7 · April 4th, 2002

Unfortunately with the sale of the VGS program to Sony you will never see an update that will allow the program to work with the NT kernal (NT, 2000 and XP). The only way is a duel boot or as you've found a virtual PC program (Virtual PC or VMware).
Personally I still use Windows ME but have installed duel boots for friends. dig out an old copy of Windows 95 or 98, these old operating systems take up very little hard drive space and can sit very comfortably on a hard disk with XP. If you need instructions on how to duel boot reply and I will help.
Sorry if this is not what you wanted to hear but you can blame Sony for that.

**Kane** · April 4th, 2002

The reason is taht VGS try to make either direct hardware calls, which Windows NT/2K/XP doesn't support for stability/security reasons, or it is trying to use bugs in the 9x kernel for speed ups.
Like DB7 said, it's simpy not going to work. I suggest you try having a look through some of the ePSXe faqs and so on. ePSXe has no problems on my system.

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DB7 · April 4th, 2002

ePSXe is a great emulator. However you should be prepared for many an hour configuring the plugins. If like me you have no patience for configuring try out the latest version of Adripsx, it has a new GUI that makes configuration a breeze. However it isn't perfect so you will have to get in there and config eventually.

Kentaro · April 5th, 2002

I'd likewise suggest going back to Win9x, preferably Win98SE. I got it working on a late 1998 (

) Pentium II 450 Mhz box with a 16MB nVidia TNT1. VGS doesn't require the BIOS ROM, or anything else, so if you don't have it or a PSX, I'd stick with it. It also requires very little/no configuration.

FYI, it was VGS 1.4 on my old box.

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Last edited by Kentaro; April 5th, 2002 at 08:46..

**Shiori** · April 5th, 2002

Hehe... I didn't know there were Pentium IIs in 1997.

Also, the "BIOS" in VGS is, shall we say, "built-in". That's why they were sued.

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Kentaro · April 5th, 2002

Meh, I meant 1998, my bad.

Sued yes, but it's still smooth as heck, you've got to give it that.

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**Kane** · April 5th, 2002

So is ePSXe if you spend 5 minutes setting it up

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**Snake785** · April 5th, 2002

...then you have to spend about an extra 15 minutes trying to get the best config on your system.

But when you get that config, it's worth it.

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**Kane** · April 5th, 2002

Once you get taht config, you only have to change one or two options at most for certain games. Which is why I use ePSXecutor.

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Syed Fawad · April 6th, 2002

If you are using winxp, and wanna play PS1 games without installing 98 or dual boot. you can do that.

You can guees very well what I am gonna say, epsxe.Take your time to configure it. I even enjoyed configuring it, its fun, it makes you feel more like some kinda programmar

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April 4th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
blueIS Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5	vgs performance w/ vpc i have winxp installed... yes i cant play vgs... epsxe is plain annoying and crashes... i tried using virtual pc, and i only get around 10~20fps (i have descent computer sys.) how do u all use vgs w/ winxp? (im not talking about mult-boot) i need some input... tia~

April 4th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
DB7 Miserable Bugger Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,061	You Don't Unfortunately with the sale of the VGS program to Sony you will never see an update that will allow the program to work with the NT kernal (NT, 2000 and XP). The only way is a duel boot or as you've found a virtual PC program (Virtual PC or VMware). Personally I still use Windows ME but have installed duel boots for friends. dig out an old copy of Windows 95 or 98, these old operating systems take up very little hard drive space and can sit very comfortably on a hard disk with XP. If you need instructions on how to duel boot reply and I will help. Sorry if this is not what you wanted to hear but you can blame Sony for that.

April 4th, 2002	#4 (permalink)
DB7 Miserable Bugger Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,061	ePSXe ePSXe is a great emulator. However you should be prepared for many an hour configuring the plugins. If like me you have no patience for configuring try out the latest version of Adripsx, it has a new GUI that makes configuration a breeze. However it isn't perfect so you will have to get in there and config eventually.

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Kentaro Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 16	Or if you're willing... I'd likewise suggest going back to Win9x, preferably Win98SE. I got it working on a late 1998 () Pentium II 450 Mhz box with a 16MB nVidia TNT1. VGS doesn't require the BIOS ROM, or anything else, so if you don't have it or a PSX, I'd stick with it. It also requires very little/no configuration. FYI, it was VGS 1.4 on my old box. __________________ main box [Dell Dimension 4300]: Intel P4 1.60 Ghz; 130,064 KB physical SDRAM; 3688 MB virtual paged RAM; 32 MB nVidia GeForce2 GTS; Maxtor 40 GB HD 7200 RPM [partitioned of course]; Win2k Professional 5.00.2195 + SP2; Crappy Lite-on 48x max CD-ROM Last edited by Kentaro; April 5th, 2002 at 08:46..

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April 4th, 2002	#3 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	The reason is taht VGS try to make either direct hardware calls, which Windows NT/2K/XP doesn't support for stability/security reasons, or it is trying to use bugs in the 9x kernel for speed ups. Like DB7 said, it's simpy not going to work. I suggest you try having a look through some of the ePSXe faqs and so on. ePSXe has no problems on my system. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

April 5th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,126	Hehe... I didn't know there were Pentium IIs in 1997. Also, the "BIOS" in VGS is, shall we say, "built-in". That's why they were sued. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

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Kentaro Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 16	Meh, I meant 1998, my bad. Sued yes, but it's still smooth as heck, you've got to give it that. __________________ main box [Dell Dimension 4300]: Intel P4 1.60 Ghz; 130,064 KB physical SDRAM; 3688 MB virtual paged RAM; 32 MB nVidia GeForce2 GTS; Maxtor 40 GB HD 7200 RPM [partitioned of course]; Win2k Professional 5.00.2195 + SP2; Crappy Lite-on 48x max CD-ROM

April 5th, 2002	#8 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	So is ePSXe if you spend 5 minutes setting it up __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

April 5th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
Snake785 Prepare for Descent... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 2,619	...then you have to spend about an extra 15 minutes trying to get the best config on your system. But when you get that config, it's worth it. __________________ My Computer specs: Pentium 4 2.6Ghz 512 MB of RAM Geforce FX 5700 128 MB Windows XP SP1 Click here for Flaretech.Biz Web Hosting

April 5th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	Once you get taht config, you only have to change one or two options at most for certain games. Which is why I use ePSXecutor. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,260	If you are using winxp, and wanna play PS1 games without installing 98 or dual boot. you can do that. You can guees very well what I am gonna say, epsxe.Take your time to configure it. I even enjoyed configuring it, its fun, it makes you feel more like some kinda programmar __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"