Good image, Bad burn...

RomanticDeath · February 14th, 2009

I got an image that i burnt of my copy of tomb raider and I can't figure this out for the life of me.

I got a perfectly good working iso because it plays, well perfect, on psx. The trouble is I used a handful of programs and different types of iso in order to make this work but so far im on 5 coasters.

I've tried Alcohol120%, CDRWin, CDClone, Nero, and Blindwrite using .mds/.mdf, .ccd/.img/.sub, .iso, and .bin/.cue so so far its a no good. I mounted the image to a virtual drive and it plays, just selected it from one of my folders and that plays as well just to confirm its not the image then I tried a copy of tomb raider that i burnt and it don't work on my ps2 (Breaker Pro, yes all my other burns work) and the same thing when i try using the burnt disc on psx.

Here is what happens (this is the burnt copy), the game boots and the logo plays, intro plays as well, but when it comes to the menu there is no music playing in the background. You can scroll around and mess with option but when you pick go to Laura's house or start a new game it starts to go but when the screen is getting ready to load the game, it just stays black for like EVER (failed burn). Now when i use the original cd and/or the image, the music plays in the background and also if you wait for a few second the demo plays but that's not important. The game starts when you select start a new game or go to Laura's house.

Now that you know the situation my question is is their some kind of copy protection that the image has that is not being burnt on the cd because i read that tomb raider has something in their extra that kinda prevents it from being a 1:1 copy or something that im forgetting to do when i try burning these types of psx games. Im not a noob at burning psx, i just hit a road block on my way and need a big tree or something to get through it.

A side note: I'm using Sony CDs and also I'm pretty sure its not the burner since i can burn every other game in my collection with out any problems.

Squall-Leonhart · February 14th, 2009

use a slower burning speed, and check that you are burning by selecting the mdf file, rather hten the mds file.

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RomanticDeath · February 14th, 2009

I burn at 2x with CloneCD and Alcohol only lets me go as low as 4x.

Does picking the.mdf file really matter if it burns correctly?

Shaun_of_Light · February 14th, 2009

The .mds file tells Alcohol the place of all the information on the image in order to more accurately burn it. Best bet is to use that file while you're burning.

RomanticDeath · February 14th, 2009

i do use that since alcohol can only pick.mds and unable to choose .mdf. Can you tell me why the subcode isn't being detected on the cd or being unable to burn the subcode?

Also when i play the burnt version on psx, i get setloc of out range, what does that mean?

Last edited by RomanticDeath; February 14th, 2009 at 19:15..

Shaun_of_Light · February 14th, 2009

They say alcohol will do that and also clone cd is the ultimate burn program out there. There is a possibility that it is your drive type. Others also are complaining about this on the web.

RomanticDeath · February 15th, 2009

Just tried CloneCD again with both .cdd format and mounting the image to a drive via Alcohol with zero success (again) what the hell is in that image file that the burner/program ain't doing right

Squall-Leonhart · February 15th, 2009

Subchannel data most likely, pick yourself up a cheap LG/Hitachi DVD-RW and they'll do it perfectly.

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RomanticDeath · February 15th, 2009

i do have a cheap LG DVD-RW, its not the drive

February 14th, 2009	#1 (permalink)
RomanticDeath Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: USA Posts: 6	Good image, Bad burn... I got an image that i burnt of my copy of tomb raider and I can't figure this out for the life of me. I got a perfectly good working iso because it plays, well perfect, on psx. The trouble is I used a handful of programs and different types of iso in order to make this work but so far im on 5 coasters. I've tried Alcohol120%, CDRWin, CDClone, Nero, and Blindwrite using .mds/.mdf, .ccd/.img/.sub, .iso, and .bin/.cue so so far its a no good. I mounted the image to a virtual drive and it plays, just selected it from one of my folders and that plays as well just to confirm its not the image then I tried a copy of tomb raider that i burnt and it don't work on my ps2 (Breaker Pro, yes all my other burns work) and the same thing when i try using the burnt disc on psx. Here is what happens (this is the burnt copy), the game boots and the logo plays, intro plays as well, but when it comes to the menu there is no music playing in the background. You can scroll around and mess with option but when you pick go to Laura's house or start a new game it starts to go but when the screen is getting ready to load the game, it just stays black for like EVER (failed burn). Now when i use the original cd and/or the image, the music plays in the background and also if you wait for a few second the demo plays but that's not important. The game starts when you select start a new game or go to Laura's house. Now that you know the situation my question is is their some kind of copy protection that the image has that is not being burnt on the cd because i read that tomb raider has something in their extra that kinda prevents it from being a 1:1 copy or something that im forgetting to do when i try burning these types of psx games. Im not a noob at burning psx, i just hit a road block on my way and need a big tree or something to get through it. A side note: I'm using Sony CDs and also I'm pretty sure its not the burner since i can burn every other game in my collection with out any problems.

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February 14th, 2009	#2 (permalink)
Squall-Leonhart Behind ur girlfriend :D Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 18,935	use a slower burning speed, and check that you are burning by selecting the mdf file, rather hten the mds file. __________________ VBA-M \| Xtemu \| NGOHQ \| Post Impact Productions \| TNHW \| XBCD 0.2.6 \| Satanic666's Emulator Compiles Don't be a NOOB, READ THE NGEmu/EmuForums Rules of Conduct Need Help with ePSXe? This is your first stop!. If you don't post all the required information, you don't get help. Everytime someone posts a romsite, God kills a beautiful woman.

February 14th, 2009	#3 (permalink)
RomanticDeath Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: USA Posts: 6	I burn at 2x with CloneCD and Alcohol only lets me go as low as 4x. Does picking the.mdf file really matter if it burns correctly?

February 14th, 2009	#4 (permalink)
Shaun_of_Light Defender of the Light Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The United States Posts: 22	The .mds file tells Alcohol the place of all the information on the image in order to more accurately burn it. Best bet is to use that file while you're burning.

February 14th, 2009	#5 (permalink)
RomanticDeath Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: USA Posts: 6	i do use that since alcohol can only pick.mds and unable to choose .mdf. Can you tell me why the subcode isn't being detected on the cd or being unable to burn the subcode? Also when i play the burnt version on psx, i get setloc of out range, what does that mean? Last edited by RomanticDeath; February 14th, 2009 at 19:15..

February 14th, 2009	#6 (permalink)
Shaun_of_Light Defender of the Light Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The United States Posts: 22	They say alcohol will do that and also clone cd is the ultimate burn program out there. There is a possibility that it is your drive type. Others also are complaining about this on the web.

February 15th, 2009	#7 (permalink)
RomanticDeath Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: USA Posts: 6	Just tried CloneCD again with both .cdd format and mounting the image to a drive via Alcohol with zero success (again) what the hell is in that image file that the burner/program ain't doing right

February 15th, 2009	#8 (permalink)
Squall-Leonhart Behind ur girlfriend :D Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 18,935	Subchannel data most likely, pick yourself up a cheap LG/Hitachi DVD-RW and they'll do it perfectly. __________________ VBA-M \| Xtemu \| NGOHQ \| Post Impact Productions \| TNHW \| XBCD 0.2.6 \| Satanic666's Emulator Compiles Don't be a NOOB, READ THE NGEmu/EmuForums Rules of Conduct Need Help with ePSXe? This is your first stop!. If you don't post all the required information, you don't get help. Everytime someone posts a romsite, God kills a beautiful woman.

February 15th, 2009	#9 (permalink)
RomanticDeath Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: USA Posts: 6	i do have a cheap LG DVD-RW, its not the drive