PS1 backups with my CD burner

[ploder]

It's been a long time since I've made backups of my PS1 games for use on my modded console and I'm pretty sure I used my CD burner to backup Suikoden II in the past. However, I can't remember which software I was using or which write method.

My CD burner supports burning at x1-x4 but can't burn with RAW DAO (only DAO, RAW SAO, RAW SAO+SUB and TAO) According to my research I shouldn't have been able to make successful backups without RAW DAO, but I am not convinced of this.

My questions are therefore:

1. Would it be technically possible to burn a backup PS1 game using my CD burner?
2. If so which write method should I be using?
3. Which software should I be using?
4. Will any of the above change if I am burning protected PS1 games?
5. Is there anything else I should watch out for burning my PS1 games with this burner?

Here is a system info report from Alcohol 120% on my CD burner:

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   (F) YAMAHA CRW4416S(2:4) detail information.
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    Vendor Identification: YAMAHA
    Product Identification: CRW4416S
    Production Revision Level: 1.0j
    Location: Port 2, Bus 0, Target 4, Lun 0
    Support recording method: DAO, RAW SAO, RAW SAO+SUB, TAO
    BURN-Free Technology: Not Supported
    Auto-Select best write speed: Not Supported
  -* Note: This information below is provided by the unit, it might be inaccurate. *-
  -* This software does not use this information!                                  *-
      Removable media: Yes
      Version: ANSI X3.131:1994 (SCSI-2)
      Response Data Format: 02h
      CD-R Read/Write: Yes/Yes
      CD-RW Read/Write: Yes/Yes
      Read CD-R Fixed Packet: Yes
      Test Write: Yes
      DVD-ROM Read: No
      DVD-R Read/Write: No/No
      DVD-RAM Read/Write: No/No
      Audio Play: Yes
      Composite Audio and Video Data Stream: No
      Digital output (IEC958) on port 1 Supported: No
      Digital output (IEC958) on port 2 Supported: No
      Mode 1 Form 2: Yes
      Mode 2 Form 2: Yes
      Multi-Session: Yes
      BUF: No
      CD-DA Commands supported: Yes
      CD-DA Stream is Accurate: Yes
      R-W Supported: Yes
      R-W De-interleaved and Corrected: Yes
      C2 Pointers Support: No
      ISRC Supported: Yes
      UPC Supported: Yes
      Read Bar Code: No
      Lock media into the drive: Yes
      Currently drive Lock state: Unlocked
      Prevent Jumper: No
      Eject Command: Yes
      Separate volume levels: Yes
      Separate channel mute: Yes
      Changer Supports Disc Present: No
      Software slot selection: No
      Side change capable: No
      P through W in Lead-In: No

A screen cap of the image burning wizard options in Alcohol


In addition these are the burning options that CloneCD provides for my drive:

[Bubbafat]

This is a little grey area, but i will answer i guess. too the best of my knowledge anyway.

1. Would it be technically possible to burn a backup PS1 game using my CD burner? I think so. I usually use a new DVD burner though, as It can burn just about anything.
2. If so which write method should I be using?Try out the different ones, i mean whats the cost of a few cd's now?
3. Which software should I be using?I use alcohol for my ps2 games most of the time. Either that or nero.
4. Will any of the above change if I am burning protected PS1 games?It may, i didnt know there were protected games. But if you make an iso then burn it, it should be fine i think
5. Is there anything else I should watch out for burning my PS1 games with this burner?use slow burn speed. Certain brand cd's can work better than others. Im poor so i use standard 700mb cd's

Or another method i use is if it dosnt work burning directly from an iso, make a virtual drive and make a copy from that.

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[ploder]

Try out the different ones, i mean whats the cost of a few cd's now?

Even though CDRs are cheap I still don't want to be burning coasters. I was hoping for a technical explanation on whether RAW SAO / RAW SAO + SUB / DAO (without RAW) could successfully duplicate the image. From what I have read so far through google as long as the session is ended in RAW SAO their might not be any problems. But then again I always find it better in the long run to ask people more experienced than myself.

use slow burn speed.

That certainly won't be a problem for my CD burner

Certain brand cd's can work better than others. Im poor so i use standard 700mb cd's

I'm poor too. I only have Sony CDRs and Verbatim's. Just can't afford those Taiyo Yuden's!

[giga718]

You can use Alcohol to burn ps1 games, thats what i use
i just choose Playstation from the list and i use the lowest speed to burn

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Last edited by giga718; January 4th, 2009 at 05:26.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

[ploder]

You can use Alcohol to burn ps1 games, thats what i use
i just choose Playstation from the list and i use the lowest speed to burn

I tried that and got "focus servo error" and disc was coaster. Got the same hardware related error in CloneCD.

[Squall-Leonhart]

your drive sucks.

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[ploder]

That is my conclusion too

[Squall-Leonhart]

by yourself a nice new Hitachi/LG GSA H## model, they all support subchannel reads (lack faster error skipping though )

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Don't be a NOOB, READ THE NGEmu/EmuForums Rules of Conduct
Need Help with ePSXe? This is your first stop!.
If you don't post all the required information, you don't get help.
Everytime someone posts a romsite, God kills a beautiful woman.