I want to help

elachys · May 13th, 2003

i have some free time and want to learn how to make plugins for ps2 emulators.
I know you need to learn how to programme and thats not a problem because i want to learn (i have pretty much no knowledge).
i was woundering what language would be best for a beginner and what compilers to turn the code into .dlls
i am a windows xp user and money is not a problem
please help!!
i hope to speed up PS2 emulator developement 'cause even though i own a PS2 i like emulators more

**Razor Blade** · May 13th, 2003

Um you might want to edit that Kazza remark you made. Hmmm But I think you would have to take a while to learn about the PS2 and programming and stuff. If you can contact the guys who make the emu im sure they might be able to tell ya what to do or talk to other emu plugin developers.

**Shiori** · May 13th, 2003

Well, your desire to help is admirable, but unfortunately programming, and plugin development in particular cannot be learned in such a short time. You must have YEARS of programming experience to even begin to consider tackling emulation. Heck, even if I think I can learn that fast I won't even begin touching it until I read up on a LOT of PS2 datasheets.

You could probably help by volunteering your PS2 for some dev work though... not sure if they still need such a guy, but hey, money's not a problem, right?

elachys · May 13th, 2003

yer but i don't want to make my PS2 screem (the plastic knife method).
i want to either make a demo or design a plugin

i think a demo would also be cool.

**Shiori** · May 13th, 2003

Like I said, if you don't know squat about programming/coding right now, not even VB or HTML, then forget it and just wait for the next release like everyone else.

It WILL eventually play commercial games, just not now. So just be content with your console in the meantime. I know I am.

elachys · May 13th, 2003

oh i know enough HTML and PHP to design my own (and modify) sites. (click my sig) I also did do YABASIC for a week or 2 and almost got a game of pong to work except the ball went through the bat and the launch vector on the ball was a bit weird
and i don't care if a PS2 emu never plays commercial games i always wanted to learn how to programme properly (not just working it out from other peoples source code)

Phoenix Flame · May 13th, 2003

Like everyone has said so far, emulation isn't the right place to start. Have you downloaded the PCSX2 source code? Get it and have a look it and see if you can make any sense of it. Then go study programming for a year and see if still makes any sense - it won't. You'll need not only years and years of programming experience but a genuine INTEREST in programming to get anywhere. That's what sets the best programmers apart from the people who study it because they want a high paying job - these are the people who write AI routines in their spare time or recompile the linux kernal for a laugh.

elachys · May 14th, 2003

ok. but does anyone know a decent compiler 'cause source means nothing unless you can do something with it?

Phoenix Flame · May 14th, 2003

Incorrect. Source means everything. What's the point in downloading the source if you're only going to compile it? You have to read the code, work out how the program works with the plugins and how you will have to write your plugins so that they will work correctly with the emu. Before you even think about compiling anything you'll have to know exactly what it is you're going to change and how you're going to do it.

Listen to us when we say that this is probably way over your head. Like I said, download the source and read it.

elachys · May 14th, 2003

ok. so say i change the source without a compiler thats still all it is.
So to see if i'm doing it right i would love to actually "run" the code

roxor · May 15th, 2003

I don't know of any free Windows compilers, but I do know of a good DOS one (which I use for all my C++ programming), called DJGPP. You can find it at http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/

night_sky · May 16th, 2003

Does anyone here know where to get the internal specifications or datasheet or anything useful for the emulating the ps2 hardware? Can someone kindly link them...

Thanks!

**ector** · May 20th, 2003

night_sky, how about the PCSX2 source code

also you can google, and you will find several PS2 homebrew development sites, they have quite some info

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elachys Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England, drinking tea. Posts: 547	I want to help i have some free time and want to learn how to make plugins for ps2 emulators. I know you need to learn how to programme and thats not a problem because i want to learn (i have pretty much no knowledge). i was woundering what language would be best for a beginner and what compilers to turn the code into .dlls i am a windows xp user and money is not a problem please help!! i hope to speed up PS2 emulator developement 'cause even though i own a PS2 i like emulators more Last edited by elachys; May 13th, 2003 at 17:26.

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Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,025	Um you might want to edit that Kazza remark you made. Hmmm But I think you would have to take a while to learn about the PS2 and programming and stuff. If you can contact the guys who make the emu im sure they might be able to tell ya what to do or talk to other emu plugin developers. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	Well, your desire to help is admirable, but unfortunately programming, and plugin development in particular cannot be learned in such a short time. You must have YEARS of programming experience to even begin to consider tackling emulation. Heck, even if I think I can learn that fast I won't even begin touching it until I read up on a LOT of PS2 datasheets. You could probably help by volunteering your PS2 for some dev work though... not sure if they still need such a guy, but hey, money's not a problem, right? __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

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Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	Like I said, if you don't know squat about programming/coding right now, not even VB or HTML, then forget it and just wait for the next release like everyone else. It WILL eventually play commercial games, just not now. So just be content with your console in the meantime. I know I am. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

May 15th, 2003	#11 (permalink)
roxor Nutcase Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Great Southern Land Posts: 703	I don't know of any free Windows compilers, but I do know of a good DOS one (which I use for all my C++ programming), called DJGPP. You can find it at http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/ __________________ "I feel that if a person can't communicate, the very least he can do is to shut up!" - Tom Lehrer

May 13th, 2003	#4 (permalink)
elachys Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England, drinking tea. Posts: 547	yer but i don't want to make my PS2 screem (the plastic knife method). i want to either make a demo or design a plugin i think a demo would also be cool.

May 13th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
elachys Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England, drinking tea. Posts: 547	oh i know enough HTML and PHP to design my own (and modify) sites. (click my sig) I also did do YABASIC for a week or 2 and almost got a game of pong to work except the ball went through the bat and the launch vector on the ball was a bit weird and i don't care if a PS2 emu never plays commercial games i always wanted to learn how to programme properly (not just working it out from other peoples source code)

May 13th, 2003	#7 (permalink)
Phoenix Flame Flood Yourself Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 1,338	Like everyone has said so far, emulation isn't the right place to start. Have you downloaded the PCSX2 source code? Get it and have a look it and see if you can make any sense of it. Then go study programming for a year and see if still makes any sense - it won't. You'll need not only years and years of programming experience but a genuine INTEREST in programming to get anywhere. That's what sets the best programmers apart from the people who study it because they want a high paying job - these are the people who write AI routines in their spare time or recompile the linux kernal for a laugh.

May 14th, 2003	#8 (permalink)
elachys Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England, drinking tea. Posts: 547	ok. but does anyone know a decent compiler 'cause source means nothing unless you can do something with it?

May 14th, 2003	#9 (permalink)
Phoenix Flame Flood Yourself Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 1,338	Incorrect. Source means everything. What's the point in downloading the source if you're only going to compile it? You have to read the code, work out how the program works with the plugins and how you will have to write your plugins so that they will work correctly with the emu. Before you even think about compiling anything you'll have to know exactly what it is you're going to change and how you're going to do it. Listen to us when we say that this is probably way over your head. Like I said, download the source and read it.

May 14th, 2003	#10 (permalink)
elachys Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: England, drinking tea. Posts: 547	ok. so say i change the source without a compiler thats still all it is. So to see if i'm doing it right i would love to actually "run" the code

May 16th, 2003	#12 (permalink)
night_sky Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 7	Help! Does anyone here know where to get the internal specifications or datasheet or anything useful for the emulating the ps2 hardware? Can someone kindly link them... Thanks!

May 20th, 2003	#13 (permalink)
ector Emu author Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 193	night_sky, how about the PCSX2 source code also you can google, and you will find several PS2 homebrew development sites, they have quite some info

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