GLide Video Cards - Page 2

**Kane** · April 28th, 2003

A Voodoo 5 is considerably more powerful than a Voodoo 1 or 2
A Voodoo 3 or below also doesn't have FSAA, one of the main reasons fow owning such a card

I have a Voodoo 1, but I wanted a Voodoo 5.

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acepower · April 28th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord Kane
>O.K. I have only one moiter, can I still *switch* between the two cards without changing phsical cables?

Not unless you have a monitor switch box I'm afraid.

>Also, is the V5 worth the cost for it's emulation 'power'?

IMO yes.... if you get a good price for it. For emulation it's fast, and it has the best FSAA around.

You have all my respects Lord Kane but here is the man's question...

felinusz · April 28th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by acepower
What are you talking about switchboxes and other useless things? You can purchase a voodoo 1 or voodoo 2 PCI which includes in the box ( no extra hardware ) a pass through cable. You only have to connect this cable with your GF2 MX (or whatever) AGP and connect your voodoo with the monitor. This way you have the AGP working all the time and the voodoo card takes priority only when Glide comes in scene. No boxes, no extra hardware, no nothing! You can also connect two voodoo2 cards (2 free PCI) and still keep your AGP and you 'll have that way a powerfull glide machine, still no extra hardware (switchboxes etc.)
Gosh...!

Thanks for the additional information

does this cord function with a Voodoo 5 also?

I am not interested in a voodoo 1 or 2 (or a double set of them, does that actually work?) but the idea of a glide-only card that automatically sets itself up is quite inticing... However, if the V5 does not have 'support' for this cable you speak of (or if it is hideously hard to find) A inexpensive moniter switchbox is probably where I will go (It will definetely work)...

Thanks to both of you (again

) for the great advice and information :thumbup:

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**Kane** · April 28th, 2003

The Voodoo 1 and 2's were 3d accelerator boards rather than full 2d/3d cards. They had 2 ports on the back: VGA in and Monitor out. When 3d wasn't active, it was a simple pass-tru, but when you went into a 3d mode, it'd automaticaly switch.
This does not happen with the Voodoo 3 and above as they are complete graphics cards rather than simply accellerators.

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felinusz · April 28th, 2003

O.K. Moniter Switchbox it is.

BTW, I have secured a V 5500, it will ship sometime soon

Thanks for the lightning fast reply also

**Demigod** · April 28th, 2003

A Voodoo 2 is a more elegant solution than a Voodoo 3 or Voodoo 5 for Glide apps but doesn't have FSAA that 3Dfx fanatics seem to love so much. I have a Voodoo 2 and used to use it to run old Glide apps. I thought about getting a Voodoo 3 before but when I thought about it a Voodoo 2 made much more sense (plus 2 Voodoo 2s in SLI will match the performance of a Voodoo 3). There is really no substitution for the Voodoo 5 though, although I don't know if it's really that worth it (depends on how much you love Glide). IMO Direct3D and OpenGL do emulation just fine and doesn't require such an extravagant setup as having two videocards.

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felinusz · April 28th, 2003

Well, the card is purchased now

I'm sure I will get $50 worth of enjoyment just plugging it in and getting it to work

OpenGL and D3D DO do emulation just fine, but some games really do require a Native-Glide card to play with full speed/enjoyment.

Also, this came up in another thread somewhere around here....:disgust:....... AH, here it is:
http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthre...397#post484074
someone was asking why glide is so fast emulation-wise. I am curious about this, anyone know the answer?

ZappaZ · April 29th, 2003

Now your hurting my feelings... someone?

Anyway, im curious too about this cuz if i remember correctly
i played Zelda OOT like 5 years ago on a comp with a voodoo
card (in ultrahle) and it ran really nice both speedwise and gfxwise.

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**Demigod** · April 29th, 2003

UltraHLE isn't a very demanding program though. I ran it on my old Celeron 366 with a Voodoo 2 at full speed.

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felinusz · April 29th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by ZappaZ
Now your hurting my feelings... someone?

Soooooory!!!

(I only read my post when I searched...)

**Kane** · April 30th, 2003

>someone was asking why glide is so fast emulation-wise. I am curious about this, anyone know the answer?

Simple answer is because Glide is so simple.

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April 28th, 2003	#21 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	A Voodoo 5 is considerably more powerful than a Voodoo 1 or 2 A Voodoo 3 or below also doesn't have FSAA, one of the main reasons fow owning such a card I have a Voodoo 1, but I wanted a Voodoo 5. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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April 28th, 2003	#24 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	The Voodoo 1 and 2's were 3d accelerator boards rather than full 2d/3d cards. They had 2 ports on the back: VGA in and Monitor out. When 3d wasn't active, it was a simple pass-tru, but when you went into a 3d mode, it'd automaticaly switch. This does not happen with the Voodoo 3 and above as they are complete graphics cards rather than simply accellerators. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

April 28th, 2003	#25 (permalink)
felinusz overclocking magus Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,372	O.K. Moniter Switchbox it is. BTW, I have secured a V 5500, it will ship sometime soon Thanks for the lightning fast reply also

April 28th, 2003	#26 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,927	A Voodoo 2 is a more elegant solution than a Voodoo 3 or Voodoo 5 for Glide apps but doesn't have FSAA that 3Dfx fanatics seem to love so much. I have a Voodoo 2 and used to use it to run old Glide apps. I thought about getting a Voodoo 3 before but when I thought about it a Voodoo 2 made much more sense (plus 2 Voodoo 2s in SLI will match the performance of a Voodoo 3). There is really no substitution for the Voodoo 5 though, although I don't know if it's really that worth it (depends on how much you love Glide). IMO Direct3D and OpenGL do emulation just fine and doesn't require such an extravagant setup as having two videocards. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 8192 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 1 TB Seagate & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) PSU: Nexus 1000 Watt OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit) Proud millionaire folder of the NGEmu folding team

April 28th, 2003	#27 (permalink)
felinusz overclocking magus Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,372	Well, the card is purchased now I'm sure I will get $50 worth of enjoyment just plugging it in and getting it to work OpenGL and D3D DO do emulation just fine, but some games really do require a Native-Glide card to play with full speed/enjoyment. Also, this came up in another thread somewhere around here....:disgust:....... AH, here it is: http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthre...397#post484074 someone was asking why glide is so fast emulation-wise. I am curious about this, anyone know the answer?

April 29th, 2003	#28 (permalink)
ZappaZ Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 67	Now your hurting my feelings... someone? Anyway, im curious too about this cuz if i remember correctly i played Zelda OOT like 5 years ago on a comp with a voodoo card (in ultrahle) and it ran really nice both speedwise and gfxwise. __________________ ---------------------------------- {Insert cool quote here} ----------------------------------

April 29th, 2003	#29 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,927	UltraHLE isn't a very demanding program though. I ran it on my old Celeron 366 with a Voodoo 2 at full speed. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 8192 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 1 TB Seagate & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) PSU: Nexus 1000 Watt OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit) Proud millionaire folder of the NGEmu folding team

April 30th, 2003	#31 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	>someone was asking why glide is so fast emulation-wise. I am curious about this, anyone know the answer? Simple answer is because Glide is so simple. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb