Can I download XXX game that is from a different region? - Page 3

**jonc2006** · October 24th, 2006

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Originally Posted by Hard core Rikki

If its is NOT LICENCED in your region, it is not legally enforcable to forbid its obtaining or use by default. But that's more of a legal loophole that has to do with region-specific laws.

As soon as it becomes LICENCED in your region, such "service" falls under your country's law, wich usually forbids non-licenced and non-authorized distribution specifically, as copyright breaches. One of the reason why games region-lockin' was enabled after the cartridge era, to prevent mass exploitation of such loopholes.

That's one of the reasons why fansubs are condoned, as the most recent are not licenced in the west YET !

like i said, i dunno

dynamicVoidMain · October 24th, 2006

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Originally Posted by Seta-San

isn't it legal to download a game/video/music if it hasn't been released in that region?

It isn't.

You can download any game you own though, it would be silly, but you can. You own a license to play it. Downloading the game isn't inherintly illegal, its what you do with it afterwards

Hard core Rikki · October 24th, 2006

You are entitled to make a backup of what you own, and use it too. Downloading from the net means you are acquiring someone's backup that was legally supposed to be for his private use only.

We have 2 schemes: illegitimate aquisition, and illegitimate uses.

- Downloading falls under the former.
- Ripping music, videos, 3d models and putting those on P2P networks falls under the latter, as it counts as unauthorized redistribution.
Public performance, and sometimes even renting counts as an illegitimate use as well.

When you buy a game, you own the right to use it for the INTENDED purpose, playing, not redistributing, as other rights are specifically reserved for the authors (most of the time).

The actual issue is with copyright laws around the world, as most are way behind the US laws. Wich is actually a good thing as DMCA and the likes are putting the Internet genie back into the bottle. A redistributor is bound by HIS country's laws, so even handling foreign content (like with Taiwan) altough morally wrong, is definitely NOT forbidden in such a situation. Unless the WTO pushes all legislations to uniformize on this (also China, Taiwan and Russia), this situation is likely to last for at least 20 years.

BTW, we dont use software anymore, that's uncool, they call it "handcuffware" now...

dynamicVoidMain · November 4th, 2006

well so long as we have a right to backup what is ours.

Maybe if publishers would package two copies of the same game, would kind of help as you'd have a backup out of the box. Might increase piracy though (curses to them pirates! arrr!)...

white ganster33 · January 12th, 2007

Shut your only saying that cause you cant get some!

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October 24th, 2006	#43 (permalink)
Hard core Rikki Let's go! Come on! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Perpetual Hawaii Posts: 5,215	You are entitled to make a backup of what you own, and use it too. Downloading from the net means you are acquiring someone's backup that was legally supposed to be for his private use only. We have 2 schemes: illegitimate aquisition, and illegitimate uses. - Downloading falls under the former. - Ripping music, videos, 3d models and putting those on P2P networks falls under the latter, as it counts as unauthorized redistribution. Public performance, and sometimes even renting counts as an illegitimate use as well. When you buy a game, you own the right to use it for the INTENDED purpose, playing, not redistributing, as other rights are specifically reserved for the authors (most of the time). The actual issue is with copyright laws around the world, as most are way behind the US laws. Wich is actually a good thing as DMCA and the likes are putting the Internet genie back into the bottle. A redistributor is bound by HIS country's laws, so even handling foreign content (like with Taiwan) altough morally wrong, is definitely NOT forbidden in such a situation. Unless the WTO pushes all legislations to uniformize on this (also China, Taiwan and Russia), this situation is likely to last for at least 20 years. BTW, we dont use software anymore, that's uncool, they call it "handcuffware" now...

November 4th, 2006	#44 (permalink)
dynamicVoidMain dVM for short Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 848	well so long as we have a right to backup what is ours. Maybe if publishers would package two copies of the same game, would kind of help as you'd have a backup out of the box. Might increase piracy though (curses to them pirates! arrr!)...

January 12th, 2007	#45 (permalink)
white ganster33 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 9	Shut your only saying that cause you cant get some!