Novice here!

evangelion2074 · March 12th, 2004

Hello I'm a newcomer.Well I'm a novice programmer in C++ an i want to develop a gamecube emulator.The problem is I don't know where to begin(I'm a bit lost).What should I do first?What sites should i visit?Thank you for your replies.

WindHydra · March 12th, 2004

I think emulators need advanced/expert programmers...

**FLaRe85** · March 12th, 2004

Start learning more C++ until you're much better than a novice.

MaZa · March 12th, 2004

If it would be that easy there would be kazillion emulators already available.Hmmm... Is there any documents about NES emulation that he could look at first? Might be bit easier than starting making Gamecube emulator with only novice skills. I dunno for sure since im not programmer...

evangelion2074 · March 12th, 2004

you didn't have really reply to my question.I want to learn.I am motivate.Don't mind the time it will take.Don't need modesty lessons.Already know my level.So now I must begin by?

Vanit · March 14th, 2004

I think you're missing the point... writing a Gamecube emulator is far beyond you're 'level'. Try getting some experience first (heh I make puns

). You can't ride a motorbike if you can't ride a bicycle!

MaZa · March 15th, 2004

Exactly what Vanit said. And also Gamecube is new technology so i believe no good docs are available yet. Hey, just look at what those hardcore emulator author guru's, who had a name emulator written in their butt since the day of birth and taught C++ as second language, have done. They barely are showing screens with bad FPS. And also almost everyone of them have started from writing something "simple" emulators first. Otherwise it would be like you just had a bicycle and then already trying to ride Kawasaki Ninja.

Vanit · March 16th, 2004

And don't think any emulator authors would allow you on their team either. You would merely be a 'newb' holding them back. They would sooner ask for an expert's help than from someone who is just starting.

RF · March 17th, 2004

You guys are so negative. Why are you putting him down, everyone has to start somewhere. My advice is that you do your reading, as anyone should. Then try a simple project on the edge of emulation.

Vanit · March 17th, 2004

I am in no way doubting his potential. I am, however, doubting he can write a Gamecube emulator. And evangelion2074 needed to hear a few things since he was under the illusion that a modest person can program a high-tech emulator. If he was a serious programmer he wouldn't have asked how to begin, which I might add is the same as for programming anything else; its a solution (the problem is finding the question in which you're answering... the meaning of life is 42... heh I had to say it

). Don't get me wrong though. I'm supporting this guy all the way. Just try not to get ahead of yourself and even though you claim to be modest you aren't if you consider yourself qualified to program a Gamecube emulator at your current stage.

Good luck, though!

MaZa · March 17th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reichfuher

You guys are so negative. Why are you putting him down, everyone has to start somewhere. My advice is that you do your reading, as anyone should. Then try a simple project on the edge of emulation.

Im also not being negative, but we are talking about GAMECUBE emulator here. I already suggested starting from NES emulator or similar which is FAR more simple than gamecube emulator. If succesfully makes one and it feels easy-pie, he might have hidden talents or something.

Vanit · March 17th, 2004

And then I can enchant a ring and wear it in hope of dissappearing before a group of young hobbits

. Anyways I don't think emulator programming can be a 'talent', so to speak. It doesn't come naturally. I think all the authors would agree with me when I say it takes a lot of work to reach their level.

MaZa · March 18th, 2004

Im not saying that there are people who can be emu programmers and people who cant be. Im just saying there are people who might understand how it basically works better that others, and that applies to everything what human can do.

Vanit · March 19th, 2004

Apart from hat wearing... everyone can wear a hat

.

SnakeBite · March 25th, 2004

if you want to code an emu, start here: http://www.goldroad.co.uk/chip8.html

[edit] comment: it's written for C/C++, but it was easy doing the same in Delphi

chillypacman · March 26th, 2004

you people some of you torture the others are optimistic. My advice learn to program till you are atleast an intermediate proggramer, these are some websties I'v been collecting recently (most are VB related though there are tons of C++ tutorials and the like:
http://www.onrpg.com/contentid-5.html
www.vbexplorer.com
www.voodoovb.com
http://www.vbgamersring.com/
www.tutorgig.com/showurls.jsp?group=1656&index=0
http://www.tutorials.de/tutorials135629.html
www.vbtutor.net/vbtutor.html
www.vbgamer.com/newtutorial.asp
http://dmoz.org/Computers/Programmin...l_Basic/Games/
http://www.rookscape.com/vbgaming/tutG.php
www.developerfusion.com/c/304/
www.codeproject.com/directx/
www.programming-x.com/programming/ game-programming.html
www.vb-links.com/game1.htm
http://www.freesitetemplates.com/app...egory::Frames/
Webhomez.net

Vanit · March 26th, 2004

I think I might tuck that a way for future preferrence too

dummy · March 26th, 2004

I don't agree that writing an emu is only for gurus and I say go for it. Check the official site of Dolwin:
http://dolwin.emulation64.com/
You will find there links to other pages with documentation. You can also download the source of their emu. It will give You a visual of how emus are written.
Maybe You won't write a full working emu but I'm sure You'll learn a lot about emus and have fun with it.

evangelion2074 · March 26th, 2004

Serious programmer?Well.I recognize that i am not so "serious",Vanit.Programmation and emulation is a passion for me.Not my future job.I already say i want to learn and I don't mind the time it will take.I needeed help to start and thanks to all who give me a hand.

O[x]YGEN · March 26th, 2004

hey, look for this textfile on www.blackroses.textfiles.com or www.textfiles.com, its called C++ in 28 days, http://blackroses.textfiles.com/programming/ is the direct link, it really helped me out, also remember google is your friend just search for tuts or text files. you can find alot of programming stuff on hacking sites like astalavista.com and stuff. i have had 1 year of experience in VB and like 7 years of java and html ( i have my own web design buisiness) and beleive me if your motivated you can learn this, and can go from a beginner to a novice in a little over a month.

March 12th, 2004	#1 (permalink)
evangelion2074 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3	Novice here! Hello I'm a newcomer.Well I'm a novice programmer in C++ an i want to develop a gamecube emulator.The problem is I don't know where to begin(I'm a bit lost).What should I do first?What sites should i visit?Thank you for your replies.

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March 12th, 2004	#4 (permalink)
MaZa !!!METAL UNCLE!!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 1,949	If it would be that easy there would be kazillion emulators already available.Hmmm... Is there any documents about NES emulation that he could look at first? Might be bit easier than starting making Gamecube emulator with only novice skills. I dunno for sure since im not programmer... __________________ Athlon XP 2600+ Barton, 1GB 333mhz DDR RAM, NVidia 6800GT, 2x160GB HD + gainward 3d glasses :fart:

March 15th, 2004	#7 (permalink)
MaZa !!!METAL UNCLE!!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 1,949	Exactly what Vanit said. And also Gamecube is new technology so i believe no good docs are available yet. Hey, just look at what those hardcore emulator author guru's, who had a name emulator written in their butt since the day of birth and taught C++ as second language, have done. They barely are showing screens with bad FPS. And also almost everyone of them have started from writing something "simple" emulators first. Otherwise it would be like you just had a bicycle and then already trying to ride Kawasaki Ninja. __________________ Athlon XP 2600+ Barton, 1GB 333mhz DDR RAM, NVidia 6800GT, 2x160GB HD + gainward 3d glasses :fart:

March 12th, 2004	#5 (permalink)
evangelion2074 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3	you didn't have really reply to my question.I want to learn.I am motivate.Don't mind the time it will take.Don't need modesty lessons.Already know my level.So now I must begin by?

March 14th, 2004	#6 (permalink)
Vanit Heretic Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia! Posts: 2,699	I think you're missing the point... writing a Gamecube emulator is far beyond you're 'level'. Try getting some experience first (heh I make puns ). You can't ride a motorbike if you can't ride a bicycle!

March 16th, 2004	#8 (permalink)
Vanit Heretic Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia! Posts: 2,699	And don't think any emulator authors would allow you on their team either. You would merely be a 'newb' holding them back. They would sooner ask for an expert's help than from someone who is just starting.

March 17th, 2004	#9 (permalink)
RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,560	You guys are so negative. Why are you putting him down, everyone has to start somewhere. My advice is that you do your reading, as anyone should. Then try a simple project on the edge of emulation. __________________

March 17th, 2004	#10 (permalink)
Vanit Heretic Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia! Posts: 2,699	I am in no way doubting his potential. I am, however, doubting he can write a Gamecube emulator. And evangelion2074 needed to hear a few things since he was under the illusion that a modest person can program a high-tech emulator. If he was a serious programmer he wouldn't have asked how to begin, which I might add is the same as for programming anything else; its a solution (the problem is finding the question in which you're answering... the meaning of life is 42... heh I had to say it ). Don't get me wrong though. I'm supporting this guy all the way. Just try not to get ahead of yourself and even though you claim to be modest you aren't if you consider yourself qualified to program a Gamecube emulator at your current stage. Good luck, though!

March 17th, 2004	#12 (permalink)
Vanit Heretic Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia! Posts: 2,699	And then I can enchant a ring and wear it in hope of dissappearing before a group of young hobbits . Anyways I don't think emulator programming can be a 'talent', so to speak. It doesn't come naturally. I think all the authors would agree with me when I say it takes a lot of work to reach their level.

March 18th, 2004	#13 (permalink)
MaZa !!!METAL UNCLE!!! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 1,949	Im not saying that there are people who can be emu programmers and people who cant be. Im just saying there are people who might understand how it basically works better that others, and that applies to everything what human can do. __________________ Athlon XP 2600+ Barton, 1GB 333mhz DDR RAM, NVidia 6800GT, 2x160GB HD + gainward 3d glasses :fart:

March 19th, 2004	#14 (permalink)
Vanit Heretic Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia! Posts: 2,699	Apart from hat wearing... everyone can wear a hat . Last edited by Vanit; March 21st, 2004 at 06:10.

March 25th, 2004	#15 (permalink)
SnakeBite Single Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 667	if you want to code an emu, start here: http://www.goldroad.co.uk/chip8.html [edit] comment: it's written for C/C++, but it was easy doing the same in Delphi __________________ This is my new improved sig. Last edited by SnakeBite; March 25th, 2004 at 11:06.

March 26th, 2004	#16 (permalink)
chillypacman Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Australia - Perth Posts: 1,057	you people some of you torture the others are optimistic. My advice learn to program till you are atleast an intermediate proggramer, these are some websties I'v been collecting recently (most are VB related though there are tons of C++ tutorials and the like: http://www.onrpg.com/contentid-5.html www.vbexplorer.com www.voodoovb.com http://www.vbgamersring.com/ www.tutorgig.com/showurls.jsp?group=1656&index=0 http://www.tutorials.de/tutorials135629.html www.vbtutor.net/vbtutor.html www.vbgamer.com/newtutorial.asp http://dmoz.org/Computers/Programmin...l_Basic/Games/ http://www.rookscape.com/vbgaming/tutG.php www.developerfusion.com/c/304/ www.codeproject.com/directx/ www.programming-x.com/programming/ game-programming.html www.vb-links.com/game1.htm http://www.freesitetemplates.com/app...egory::Frames/ Webhomez.net

March 26th, 2004	#17 (permalink)
Vanit Heretic Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia! Posts: 2,699	I think I might tuck that a way for future preferrence too __________________ Click here to download my Sin and Punishment English translation.

March 26th, 2004	#18 (permalink)
dummy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4	I don't agree that writing an emu is only for gurus and I say go for it. Check the official site of Dolwin: http://dolwin.emulation64.com/ You will find there links to other pages with documentation. You can also download the source of their emu. It will give You a visual of how emus are written. Maybe You won't write a full working emu but I'm sure You'll learn a lot about emus and have fun with it.

March 26th, 2004	#19 (permalink)
evangelion2074 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3	Serious programmer?Well.I recognize that i am not so "serious",Vanit.Programmation and emulation is a passion for me.Not my future job.I already say i want to learn and I don't mind the time it will take.I needeed help to start and thanks to all who give me a hand.

March 26th, 2004	#20 (permalink)
O[x]YGEN Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9	hey, look for this textfile on www.blackroses.textfiles.com or www.textfiles.com, its called C++ in 28 days, http://blackroses.textfiles.com/programming/ is the direct link, it really helped me out, also remember google is your friend just search for tuts or text files. you can find alot of programming stuff on hacking sites like astalavista.com and stuff. i have had 1 year of experience in VB and like 7 years of java and html ( i have my own web design buisiness) and beleive me if your motivated you can learn this, and can go from a beginner to a novice in a little over a month.

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