encryption?

[l3illyl3ob]

what is the truth about this encryption? I've heard conflicting reports coming from every direction. So far everyone's told me even the images are encrypted since they're 1:1 copies, but DesktopMan says differently, and i'm inclined to believe him. Was the encryption defeated long ago or what? I'm just confused now.

[T.O.F.K.A.Z]

Trust Desktopman on this he is a very trusted and very well known person , and knows what he says. As for my stance there isn't an ecryption the discs arwe sorta protected , but not encrypted. Protected means unreadable in dvd-rom drives for instance.

[Kane]

IIRC the discs are encrypted in some form and decrypted on the ply in hardware by the GC. In ripping the image via the GC you'd remove the encryption....

[WinterHell]

How to rip games via my GameCube and is there way to make Copies(BackUp copies,of course )?

[Yeloazndevil]

Originally Posted by WinterHell

How to rip games via my GameCube and is there way to make Copies(BackUp copies,of course )?

u can do via the broadband adaptor, but then again u need some program to actually be able to do this

[T.O.F.K.A.Z]

We don't post full details on doing this here because some consider it illegal but I'll give you a hint : PSO glitch. Not that it's of any use yet seeing as there is no REAL gc emu released.

[l3illyl3ob]

heh, i'm sure nintendo is hating sega right about now... thanks for clearing that up

[Yeloazndevil]

Originally Posted by l3illyl3ob

heh, i'm sure nintendo is hating sega right about now... thanks for clearing that up

like Sega needs to support GC, Sega is better off not supporting the GC

[DC_daNMan]

what is this phantasy star online exploit? I've been hearing alot about it lately.

[T.O.F.K.A.Z]

Don't ask if you really want to know just search a little on google for instance.

Can't post it here because the rom dumping is considerd illegal aswell.

[Ichinisan]

Originally Posted by T.O.F.K.A.Z

Don't ask if you really want to know just search a little on google for instance.

Can't post it here because the rom dumping is considerd illegal aswell.

Game dumping is absolutely 100% legal. In fact, the only legal way to use any emulator is to create your own game images. Nintendo's claims inside their instruction booklets are absolutely false; but who is going to sue them? Because you did not sign a contract when you purchased the game, it becomes yours.You can use it as you please within the limitations of existing laws (no illegal duplication/distribution). No one hesitates to mention how XBOX images are made, so here is how the GCN disc images are made:

There is no PC link cable. A standard Category 5 Ethernet networking cable is used to transfer the game data to a PC. The Gamecube does not need to be modified, but must have the official Broadband Adapter installed.

The XBOX also uses a standard Cat5 E networking cable. If you use cable/DSL, your probably already have the cable and network adapter for your PC. Most newer PC motherboards have a built-in network connector.

Phantasy Star Uploader (PSUL) is a program which can be run on the PC to connect to the Gamecube and upload homebrew code. Elite GC homebrew coders have used PSUL to upload their own code to the Gamecube. The uploaded program allows the user to swap discs, and it then reads the entire disc while transmitting the data over the BBA to the PC. The creaters of the GC backup program have not released it to the public because they do not want to contribute to piracy. There is no reason to have it until a working emulator is released. According to homebrew programmers from the GCN scene, anyone who knows what they're doing can create the dumping code themselves.

[T.O.F.K.A.Z]

Originally Posted by Ichinisan

Game dumping is absolutely 100% legal. In fact, the only legal way to use any emulator is to create your own game images.

There are people smart enough to rent or borrow a game , so that they don't have to pay the actual amount for it or absolute nothing and then dump it , and that would be considered illegal because they wouldn't own the original game itselfs and that's why I said what I said.

[Ichinisan]

Originally Posted by T.O.F.K.A.Z

...rom dumping is considerd illegal aswell.

Originally Posted by Ichinisan

Game dumping is 100% legal.

Originally Posted by T.O.F.K.A.Z

There are people smart enough to rent or borrow a game , so that they don't have to pay the actual amount for it or absolute nothing and then dump it , and that would be considered illegal because they wouldn't own the original game itselfs and that's why I said what I said.

Yes. That would be stealing. Stealing is illegal.
Game dumping for personal use is not illegal.

[T.O.F.K.A.Z]

Originally Posted by Ichinisan

Yes. That would be stealing. Stealing is illegal.
Game dumping for personal use is not illegal.

Too bad game dumping is usually not done only for personal use.
But I think they could handle this better in making a system for it :
Each game you but has an unique code which can be used once to download the specific rom to your hdd from the developers site for instance. But they should make a specific protection which makes it soly playable on the system of the person who downloaded it from them. Might be hard to make that into a ROM but why not make a self running game throught the EXE format ? They can then make attach a program which on starting the EXE makes a special key soly for this user in his registry and also send's the key back to the developers site with some additional info on the user (like his email and ip , just for if the user deletes this file and requests a backup).

[l3illyl3ob]

but that would only work on an online only game, or at least require people to be on the internet any time they want to play, which just isn't convient. And if you just copy the file before you generate a random key or whatever, what's stopping other people from downloading that and simply following the same process? And if they effectively pull this off, rom dumpers would start cracking roms so they wouldn't check back and require this key stuff.

I'm not sure how we got into this, however... The point is, the actual act of dumping is 100% legal, since copyright laws state that you are allowed to make one backup copy for your own personal use. What they do with that backup afterwards may or may not be legal, but backing up software you legally purchased or obtained is perfectly legal.

[T.O.F.K.A.Z]

Originally Posted by l3illyl3ob

but that would only work on an online only game, or at least require people to be on the internet any time they want to play, which just isn't convient. And if you just copy the file before you generate a random key or whatever, what's stopping other people from downloading that and simply following the same process? And if they effectively pull this off, rom dumpers would start cracking roms so they wouldn't check back and require this key stuff.

Well it would atleast require them, the rom dumpers ,to do something more then just dumping them , because dumping is easy , you just need the right equipment and you're set.