Anybody else think that Dreamcast emus are usless for most people

DB7 · May 29th, 2003

I'm not trying to knock the work of people who are making DC emus but for most people they are going to be worthless.
Mostly everyone knows that GD-Rom discs can't be read on your PC and most wouldn't know where to get the cables to rip their games from the DC, the only way for the majority tom play games on the DC emus are going to be warezed downloads which is bad and no-one would do as it is illegal.

Sorry for any offence cause as none was intended, this is only my personal opinion.

Sera · May 29th, 2003

I believe so, but hardcore SEGA fanatics will surely do anything to play them on higher resolution.

**ector** · May 29th, 2003

Whether it's useless or not, there's still the technical challenge

**Dark Watcher** · May 29th, 2003

If your only purpose is to play commercial games..then we suggest shelling out $40-50 on the console (the price of a game..don't be cheap)

So why an emulator? Well there is another reason, but most overlook it. A trip to most Dreamcat emu sites shows a good many homebrewn games...many are quite good....so an emulator would be another method of enjoyment....

**Shiori** · May 29th, 2003

It's next to "useless" for me, not because of the GDROM issue, but because the only games that I think are worth playing there are Garou: Mark of the Wolves, Sakura Taisen 3 and 4, and Record of Lodoss War. The rest can go rot in the bargain bin.

But, DC emulation is all good for the Emu scene. It just ain't that of a big deal to me, personally.

felinusz · May 29th, 2003

I think it is more about the challenge for the authors, and the great feeling of completing such a thing. Many won't use it, and many do not use The other Sega Emulators drifting about.

All in all the emulation scene isn't just about playing games mindlessly, but about getting things to work and then enjoying them after lots of effort and research.

Q: (On Mount Everest) What is your reason for climbing this mountain?

A: Because it is here.

**Dark Watcher** · May 29th, 2003

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Originally posted by felinusz
I think it is more about the challenge for the authors, and the great feeling of completing such a thing. Many won't use it, and many do not use The other Sega Emulators drifting about.

All in all the emulation scene isn't just about playing games mindlessly, but about getting things to work and then enjoying them after lots of effort and research.

Q: (On Mount Everest) What is your reason for climbing this mountain?

A: Because it is here.

We agree about the challenge...however we disagree about people not using other Sega emulators.... Saturn emulators seem to have been creating much interest again, and Gens and Kega brought about many Genesis, Sega CD, and 32X fans...hell...we are a big Meka / Dega fan.....so go take a walk with anti SEGAtism man!

On another note...we were thinking on the comments made about "the only way to play games on a DC emulator are with ripped ISO's from warez sites"...

We have been following the emulation game way before some of the members here touched a keyboard...
Before ISO's and Rips there were ROMS...You could find them at abundant "ROM sites"...It was obviously illegal...but then they added this lil statement that says..It's OK to download this ROM if you own a copy of the game...as a backup they were calling it...a supposed loophole to an otherwise illegal action. You could bet your arse that folks were downloading anyways....It's kind of hard to believe the whole "backup" deal when your downloading say a ROM to a game that was only released in Japan...

So what makes a DC Rip any different? What makes a rom site any different from a warez site? If the whole backup shpeal is legit..couldn't we d/l a rip of a game that we own? The bad thing about emulation is that there is a dark side...

You know what we find humorous...People are quick to mention about DC Rips and warez sites..but are quite comfortABLE when speaking of GBA stuff....

**CyRUS64** · May 29th, 2003

Shiori: There are so many cool games on the dreamcast. How could you *not* like Ikaruga and Rez if nothing else?

Kaiser Sigma · May 29th, 2003

Plus, there are tons of dating sims on the DC... Pia Carrot 2dx comes to mind, but just as well as that one, there are plenty of great games for the DC...

Useless ? As someone said, not for hardcore Sega fans

**Dark Watcher** · May 29th, 2003

CyRUS64..thanks for stopping in...stay motivated

There are many quality DC titles (DW hugs their DC)...also keep in mind that emulation offers so much more then simply playing the game...imagine...Kailera / Online gaming...even further graphic enhancements, save state support, unlimited saves, and more..
Play a PSX game on your console..then play it on an emulator.....then ask yourself whether DC emulation is useless...

DB7 · May 29th, 2003

I have every Sega console up to and including the Master System (Master System, Megadrive, 32X, Saturn and Dreamcast) so if emus didn't exist I could still play my games, all my machines still work.
And like I said whoever is making the Icarus emu (drunk at the mo so forgive bad mermory) has earned my repect, I couldn't do half of what they have.
I bought my DC for fifty English pounds with Resident Evil: Code Veronica, Shenmue and revolt (whcih is crap)
its just that most p[eople will ot be able tpo use a DC emu with out breaking the law.

Sorry if I am talking rubbish.

May 29th, 2003

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Originally posted by Shiori
It's next to "useless" for me, not because of the GDROM issue, but because the only games that I think are worth playing there are Garou: Mark of the Wolves, Sakura Taisen 3 and 4, and Record of Lodoss War. The rest can go rot in the bargain bin.

But, DC emulation is all good for the Emu scene. It just ain't that of a big deal to me, personally.

don't like capcom vs snk 2 then? or already have that on ps2?

**Shiori** · May 30th, 2003

Already have that on PS2, I'm afraid. :embl:

Ikaruga? Never heard of it. Rez? Does that game have a vibrator too for the Dreamcast? :eek:

Dreamcast was nice and all, and I wanted one before, but during its lifetime it never really had the games I wanted, and now that game develpment for it is all but dead, I guess it never will.

So it's really subjective, with each person having a reason why he or she wants a DC emu, but a Dreamcast Emu is overall a VERY good thing both for the scene and for those who want to keep their Dreamcast gaming memories alive.

Maybe I'll get the Sakura Wars and the Hello Kitty version of the Dreamcast, just for collection reasons. I already know a guy who has both of them, and he's often broke.

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Originally posted by Kaiser Sigma
Plus, there are tons of dating sims on the DC... Pia Carrot 2dx comes to mind

Sigh, they're so EXTREMELY hard to find nowadays unless you go trolling all over the game store districts within Japan for it. Dating sims are big over there, and people who have it absolutely refuse to let go of it, particularly the Dreamcast ones, since they were pressed in small numbers (3000 - 5000 copies only, even less for those released by small companies).

**kairi00** · May 30th, 2003

Ikaruga is one of the best shmups that has ever graced this planet for a long time

At least in my humble opinion. And yes, Rez is that game you're thinking about (minus the vibrator though).

And don't forget the KOF series (if you're into KOF, that is). Playmore is still porting the KOF series to the DC.

**Shiori** · May 30th, 2003

Not much of a shmup fan I'm afraid... I'm horrible at dodging little blue bits. :embl:

KOF?

*speaking in hushed tones*

Well, there's Kawaks for it, right? :embl:

**kairi00** · May 30th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Shiori
*speaking in hushed tones*

Well, there's Kawaks for it, right? :embl:

... well... yeah... but.... LONG LIVE THE DC!

May 30th, 2003

yeah...because...uhm..it has a lot of racing games

:eek:

Kaiser Sigma · May 30th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Shiori
(...) Sigh, they're so EXTREMELY hard to find nowadays unless you go trolling all over the game store districts within Japan for it. Dating sims are big over there, and people who have it absolutely refuse to let go of it, particularly the Dreamcast ones, since they were pressed in small numbers (3000 - 5000 copies only, even less for those released by small companies).

Well, it's sort of ironical but in America import stores are loaded with dating sims... in fact, you can still buy some limited editions, like the Sakura Wars Paris edition just to name something...

2 or 3 games are still coming for the DC, while others are being re-released...

**Yeloazndevil** · May 30th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by kairi00
Ikaruga is one of the best shmups that has ever graced this planet for a long time At least in my humble opinion. And yes, Rez is that game you're thinking about (minus the vibrator though).

And don't forget the KOF series (if you're into KOF, that is). Playmore is still porting the KOF series to the DC.

yea Playmore !

JuniorCRB · May 31st, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Shiori
It's next to "useless" for me, not because of the GDROM issue, but because the only games that I think are worth playing there are Garou: Mark of the Wolves, Sakura Taisen 3 and 4, and Record of Lodoss War. The rest can go rot in the bargain bin.

But, DC emulation is all good for the Emu scene. It just ain't that of a big deal to me, personally.

no good games on dc?????

that one hurt me:eek: :eek:

May 29th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
DB7 Miserable Bugger Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 968	Anybody else think that Dreamcast emus are usless for most people I'm not trying to knock the work of people who are making DC emus but for most people they are going to be worthless. Mostly everyone knows that GD-Rom discs can't be read on your PC and most wouldn't know where to get the cables to rip their games from the DC, the only way for the majority tom play games on the DC emus are going to be warezed downloads which is bad and no-one would do as it is illegal. Sorry for any offence cause as none was intended, this is only my personal opinion.

May 29th, 2003	#4 (permalink)
Dark Watcher Coffee Demon Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Darkness, Unknown Posts: 2,896	If your only purpose is to play commercial games..then we suggest shelling out $40-50 on the console (the price of a game..don't be cheap) So why an emulator? Well there is another reason, but most overlook it. A trip to most Dreamcat emu sites shows a good many homebrewn games...many are quite good....so an emulator would be another method of enjoyment.... __________________

May 29th, 2003	#5 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	It's next to "useless" for me, not because of the GDROM issue, but because the only games that I think are worth playing there are Garou: Mark of the Wolves, Sakura Taisen 3 and 4, and Record of Lodoss War. The rest can go rot in the bargain bin. But, DC emulation is all good for the Emu scene. It just ain't that of a big deal to me, personally. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

May 29th, 2003	#8 (permalink)
CyRUS64 Emu author Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 194	Shiori: There are so many cool games on the dreamcast. How could you not like Ikaruga and Rez if nothing else? __________________ Boob! - Dreamcast Research and Emulators http://www.boob.co.uk Icarus - Dreamcast Emulator for x86 processors. http://icarus.boob.co.uk Visit us in #boob on efnet

May 29th, 2003	#10 (permalink)
Dark Watcher Coffee Demon Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Darkness, Unknown Posts: 2,896	CyRUS64..thanks for stopping in...stay motivated There are many quality DC titles (DW hugs their DC)...also keep in mind that emulation offers so much more then simply playing the game...imagine...Kailera / Online gaming...even further graphic enhancements, save state support, unlimited saves, and more.. Play a PSX game on your console..then play it on an emulator.....then ask yourself whether DC emulation is useless... __________________

May 29th, 2003	#2 (permalink)
Sera Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 2,965	I believe so, but hardcore SEGA fanatics will surely do anything to play them on higher resolution.

May 29th, 2003	#3 (permalink)
ector Emu author Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 193	Whether it's useless or not, there's still the technical challenge

May 29th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
felinusz overclocking magus Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,369	I think it is more about the challenge for the authors, and the great feeling of completing such a thing. Many won't use it, and many do not use The other Sega Emulators drifting about. All in all the emulation scene isn't just about playing games mindlessly, but about getting things to work and then enjoying them after lots of effort and research. Q: (On Mount Everest) What is your reason for climbing this mountain? A: Because it is here.

May 29th, 2003	#9 (permalink)
Kaiser Sigma ~ Lord of Darkness ~ Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A place darker than the night Posts: 14,591	Plus, there are tons of dating sims on the DC... Pia Carrot 2dx comes to mind, but just as well as that one, there are plenty of great games for the DC... Useless ? As someone said, not for hardcore Sega fans

May 29th, 2003	#11 (permalink)
DB7 Miserable Bugger Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 968	I have every Sega console up to and including the Master System (Master System, Megadrive, 32X, Saturn and Dreamcast) so if emus didn't exist I could still play my games, all my machines still work. And like I said whoever is making the Icarus emu (drunk at the mo so forgive bad mermory) has earned my repect, I couldn't do half of what they have. I bought my DC for fifty English pounds with Resident Evil: Code Veronica, Shenmue and revolt (whcih is crap) its just that most p[eople will ot be able tpo use a DC emu with out breaking the law. Sorry if I am talking rubbish. __________________ An optimist believes we live in the best possible world A pessimist fears that is true. A pessimist is never disappointed.

May 30th, 2003	#14 (permalink)
kairi00 Puchiko-nyu! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 49° 11' N 123° 10' W Posts: 2,854	Ikaruga is one of the best shmups that has ever graced this planet for a long time At least in my humble opinion. And yes, Rez is that game you're thinking about (minus the vibrator though). And don't forget the KOF series (if you're into KOF, that is). Playmore is still porting the KOF series to the DC. __________________ "Not every ejaculation deserves a name." --- George Carlin

May 30th, 2003	#15 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	Not much of a shmup fan I'm afraid... I'm horrible at dodging little blue bits. :embl: KOF? speaking in hushed tones Well, there's Kawaks for it, right? :embl: __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

May 30th, 2003	#17 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	yeah...because...uhm..it has a lot of racing games :eek:

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