Ehmmm...

Cajunspirit · May 23rd, 2002

How exactly does DC emulation work?:confused:

Zell · May 24th, 2002

That's a good one !! What do you exactly mean !?

**Demigod** · May 24th, 2002

It doesn't work yet. Just wait a few more years and it'll eventually come around.

Zell · May 24th, 2002

I don't think it will take years , but still some months for comercial runs to run .

MasterKin · May 25th, 2002

i think ps2 emulators will arrive first.

=)

what do you think??

May 25th, 2002

Nah....DC emulation has progressed rather quickly and Icarus is coming along very nicely. The Dreamcast surely is difficult to emulate like the PS2. It's come a long way.

REi_FoX · May 25th, 2002

i think thats righht ps2 would be the first than the DC...

gd-rom... shucks!!!

Skye · May 25th, 2002

Have to agree with rei about the gd-rom also ppl seem to be working harder on ps2 emulation. Have you seen releases for DC yet?

-Skye

**CyRUS64** · May 27th, 2002

Icarus can run Namco Museum, but with some weird displaying/non-displaying texture issues, so it isnt at all viewable properly atm.
Also, certain commercial software does some interesting initialization/preliminary crap and I have gotten a sofdec movie playing sample working in katana, which is fairly important since many commercial games will use these apis aswell as playing the sofdec intro screen first when running a game on a real dc.
I'm pretty busy with r/l atm, but I am in the slow process of converting much katana code to c source code for learning more about the dreamcast, since there is so much information to be reversed

. Currrent task is g2dma... Just reversed+emulated the aica real-time-clock for storing the real-world date/time.
The homebrew apps dont really document much at all about the dreamcast in any sufficient manner to emulate commercial software... hence it is gonna be a slow progress, but yah hopefully icarus will be a rough guideline to dc emulation's progress =)
CyRUS

Skye · May 27th, 2002

Sweet I hope everything goes well and we can start emulating the dreamcast soon.

-Skye

**CyRUS64** · May 27th, 2002

I started emulating the dreamcast a long time ago. I have been the first to publicise pics of the dreamcast katana samples being emulated, and of the bios emulation, so dreamcast emulation is more advanced than many realise. However there are still some very complex parts of Katana that must be reversed to be able to start getting display output from commercial games. This information just isnt publically available and so it does understandably take time.
Even when we get to that stage in 1yr+ we then have the matter of speed =)
This is gonna take some hardcore coding and some good work from intel/amd

CyRUS

Cajunspirit · May 28th, 2002

Okay but ugh what do fella's post about in this forum then?

**Kane** · May 28th, 2002

DC emulating other things mostly I think.

Cajunspirit · May 30th, 2002

Yeah but didn't Demigod79 say that it hasn't started to work poperly yet?

May 31st, 2002

Well, look at it this way, we have a PCSX2 forum where we discuss PS2 emulation, its future, and its progression. Why can't we have a DC Emulation forum where we can do the same for DC?

hoyoyo80 · June 8th, 2002

I am no programmer,but i can feel that it is hard too make/code/program any emulator...Nice job for all emu author

RF · June 19th, 2002

I think the dc emu would take the longest just because of the cd. It would be awfully hard for normal ppl to rip the roms at stuff like that

June 26th, 2002

What's the difference between a gd-rom and cd-rom? Are the little 'ups and downs

' a different size?

**Kane** · June 26th, 2002

Basicaly there are two tracks on a GD rom. One is the one that PC CD-roms can read. The other is the big part that only the DC can read. How this is done is not disclosed.
There are two main theorys:
1) A lot of the Error protection/ correction data is removed from the CD
2) The data is more compact (like you said)
I don't know for sure, but I assume the later.

**Snake785** · June 28th, 2002

Don't GD-ROMs hold around 1GB of data?

May 23rd, 2002	#1 (permalink)
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May 25th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
ShADoWFLaRe85 Guest Posts: n/a	Nah....DC emulation has progressed rather quickly and Icarus is coming along very nicely. The Dreamcast surely is difficult to emulate like the PS2. It's come a long way.

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Skye Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gville, Florida Posts: 908	Have to agree with rei about the gd-rom also ppl seem to be working harder on ps2 emulation. Have you seen releases for DC yet? -Skye

May 27th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
CyRUS64 Emu author Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 194	Icarus can run Namco Museum, but with some weird displaying/non-displaying texture issues, so it isnt at all viewable properly atm. Also, certain commercial software does some interesting initialization/preliminary crap and I have gotten a sofdec movie playing sample working in katana, which is fairly important since many commercial games will use these apis aswell as playing the sofdec intro screen first when running a game on a real dc. I'm pretty busy with r/l atm, but I am in the slow process of converting much katana code to c source code for learning more about the dreamcast, since there is so much information to be reversed . Currrent task is g2dma... Just reversed+emulated the aica real-time-clock for storing the real-world date/time. The homebrew apps dont really document much at all about the dreamcast in any sufficient manner to emulate commercial software... hence it is gonna be a slow progress, but yah hopefully icarus will be a rough guideline to dc emulation's progress =) CyRUS __________________ Boob! - Dreamcast Research and Emulators http://www.boob.co.uk Icarus - Dreamcast Emulator for x86 processors. http://icarus.boob.co.uk Visit us in #boob on efnet

May 27th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
Skye Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gville, Florida Posts: 908	Sweet I hope everything goes well and we can start emulating the dreamcast soon. -Skye

May 27th, 2002	#11 (permalink)
CyRUS64 Emu author Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 194	I started emulating the dreamcast a long time ago. I have been the first to publicise pics of the dreamcast katana samples being emulated, and of the bios emulation, so dreamcast emulation is more advanced than many realise. However there are still some very complex parts of Katana that must be reversed to be able to start getting display output from commercial games. This information just isnt publically available and so it does understandably take time. Even when we get to that stage in 1yr+ we then have the matter of speed =) This is gonna take some hardcore coding and some good work from intel/amd CyRUS __________________ Boob! - Dreamcast Research and Emulators http://www.boob.co.uk Icarus - Dreamcast Emulator for x86 processors. http://icarus.boob.co.uk Visit us in #boob on efnet

May 28th, 2002	#12 (permalink)
Cajunspirit Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: 2nd Dimension Posts: 840	Okay but ugh what do fella's post about in this forum then?

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Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	DC emulating other things mostly I think. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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Cajunspirit Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: 2nd Dimension Posts: 840	Yeah but didn't Demigod79 say that it hasn't started to work poperly yet?

May 31st, 2002	#15 (permalink)
ShADoWFLaRe85 Guest Posts: n/a	Well, look at it this way, we have a PCSX2 forum where we discuss PS2 emulation, its future, and its progression. Why can't we have a DC Emulation forum where we can do the same for DC?

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j1188 Guest Posts: n/a	What's the difference between a gd-rom and cd-rom? Are the little 'ups and downs' a different size?

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Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Basicaly there are two tracks on a GD rom. One is the one that PC CD-roms can read. The other is the big part that only the DC can read. How this is done is not disclosed. There are two main theorys: 1) A lot of the Error protection/ correction data is removed from the CD 2) The data is more compact (like you said) I don't know for sure, but I assume the later. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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